[Rhodes22-list] Thanks for the warm welcomes

Wed Apr 28 21:23:45 EDT 2010

Geoff,

Now I know where Thunderbird is available for 1.59, that is, I think it was Thunderbird (it thundered).  When deployed with the Navy to Rota, Spain, as we were Rota-Rooters, T'bird was the norm.  One of the crew was smitten with wine at a bodega in Seville and purchased on oversized 10 gallon bottle.  Unfortunately it tasted like vinegar after two weeks.  It is not the premium choice in Spain.

I saw Ben's boat when it was still crippled at the plant.  Stan asked me for suggestions, but I have never seen such an encrusted hull.  I think he used a vinegar mix to remove the deposits, anyone know?  I suspect Ben's boat successful renewal is a testament to quality in this craft.

Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Geoff Farrell <geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com>
>Sent: Apr 28, 2010 2:02 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Thanks for the warm welcomes
>
>Wow, so many great and thoughtful replies. You guys (I use the term
>generically) love your boats. Some of you should write copy for Stan's
>advertising (if he ever decides to advertise). Lots of things to think
>about. I'm awaiting Stan's package that he just put in the mail for me.
>Thanks to all of you.
>
>Art: Thunderbird wine ($4.95 for 750ml)? I'll never be able to afford that
>after buying an R22. But, just in case, how many 750s will fit in the the
>R22 icebox?
>
>Ben: How long was Velvet Elvis submerged before you got to her? Those pics
>were unbelievable. When the mast came down, where did the shrouds/stays give
>way? At the chain plates? We're in a hurricane area here (Ivan decimated
>us). I'm not sure I would even be covered for hurricanes unless I agreed to
>transport the boat north of Interstate 10.
>
>It was great to hear how welcoming Stan is to factory visits. Stan, if
>you're reading this, I like Absolute martinis, straight up, very dry, with
>olives stuffed with bleu cheese. Oh, and I like my steaks medium.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Ben Schultz <
>benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:
>
>> Geoff,
>>
>> I can't remember if you said whether you were considering a purchase from
>> GB, or a sale from an existing owner, but if you are considering buying
>> from
>> GB, there's a huge advantage right there.
>>
>> When I purchased my used R22 from GB, Stan's brother Elton stuck around for
>> two days making mechanical adjustments and showing me some time-trusted
>> tips
>> before he was satisfied with the state of the boat.  They provided some
>> additional documentation to my lender that allowed me to borrower a bigger
>> percentage of the cost and at a lower rate.  They even provide free lodging
>> at their factory for when you visit.
>>
>> We can pick up our phones and get the owner of the company any day of the
>> year.  Stan has even posted his home number in case we need to get him in
>> the middle of the night (although I'm not sure what sort of emergency would
>> call for that level of access).
>>
>> You'll find no one that deals with you in a more honest, straightforward
>> way
>> that the Spitzers.
>>
>> And the boat is as solid as advertized.  Velvet Elvis was unfortunately
>> located right were Hurricane Katrina's western eye wall passed.  There were
>> many dozens of sunk boats in the area, and some had disappeared altogether.
>> But Velvet Elvis had been tied to the dock with six 3/4" lines, and one
>> frayed line still held her in place.
>>
>> We found her  with a pretzel for a mast, and full of water (and crabs), and
>> because of all of the other damage, we didn't even touch her for six
>> months.
>> (photos:
>>
>> http://theskinnyonbenny.com/pg3.php?spgmGal=014%20-%20Velvet%20Elvis%20Damag
>> e%20Photos).  But it was clear that the hull was fine.  The deck was
>> solid;
>> the chainplates were firmly lodged where they belong.
>>
>> I finally hauled her up to Edenton, advised Stan of my insurance-money
>> budget, and came back a couple of months later to find a boat that appeared
>> to be brand new.  The deck and cockpit floor still feel as solid as the day
>> she was new.
>>
>> I don't know the Com-Pac or the Precision, but if you're going to
>> entertain,
>> the pop-top is a huge feature.  Combined with huge cockpit, it easily
>> provides comfortable space for 6 adults.  In our boat, the admiral likes to
>> stand under the pop-top and act as bartender and guide for the guests in
>> the
>> cockpit.  We've also got the bimini, which I would advise for summers on
>> Mobile Bay.  Before we bought it, we stuck to nighttime sails in the
>> Louisiana summertime.
>>
>> I hope you do pick the Rhodes.  Your posts have given me a couple of laughs
>> this week.  I think you'll like it here :-)
>>
>> Ben S.
>> R22 Velvet Elvis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:45 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Thanks for the warm welcomes
>>
>> HI Geoff,
>>
>> You are looking at 3 very different boats. We've been aboard both the
>> Eclipse at boat shows and the P21. We used to have a Com-Pac 16. The
>> Eclipse is basically Com-Pac's replacement for the Com-Pac 19. It's a
>> bit bigger and has a centerboard. It's a lot smaller than a Rhodes
>> 22. It would be a good daysailer and not a bad overnighter but it has
>> only sitting headroom in the cabin. I'm still a member of the Com-pac
>> email list (a yahoo group) and while people occasionally ask about
>> them, no one there seems to own one. Same deal on the Trailer Sailor
>> Bulletin Board
>> (http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/trailersailor/index.cgi). If the
>> Eclipse is like the other Hutchins' boats it is very sturdily built
>> and the Mast-tendr system would be great if you are going to trailer
>> and daysail. The P21 is a faster boat but is similar to the Eclipse
>> in size. It is more lightly built but they are still quality boats.
>> If you buy a Precision, put latches on the cockpit lockers. We've
>> known of several Precisions sunk or partially sunk after a knockdown
>> through downflooding through the cockpit locker which opens directly
>> into the boat. As someone else mentioned, the P23 is closer to the
>> R22 in size. Both the Com-Pac and the P21 would be easier to trailer
>> and set up than the Rhodes but the Rhodes is much more like a small
>> cruiser than the other two. The standing headroom with the pop-top up
>> and the full galley with ample storage and built in icebox put it in
>> another class entirely. The R22 is the only one with positive
>> flotation. If you are conscientious and put your hatchboard in during
>> rough weather and lock your lockers, that may not matter too much but
>> it is a nice feature to have.
>>
>> When we were looking for a replacement for the 16 we were looking for
>> a boat for weekend cruising and that would do well in the light air
>> of the Chesapeake. We also wanted a boat we would be confident could
>> handle rough weather if we were caught out by a summer thunderstorm.
>> The R22 won hands down. Seems to me you need to assess your uses and
>> set your priorities.
>>
>> Best of luck,
>> Mary Lou
>>
>>
>> At 04:56 PM 4/27/2010, you wrote:
>> >Hi Lee. I'm considering the following: Com-Pac Eclipse (Hutchins Co.) and
>> >Precision 21 (Precision Boat Works). Are you familier with these? Geoff
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:11 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Geoff,
>> > >
>> > > If you let us know some of the other makes of sailboats we offer you
>> our
>> > > expert and totally unbiased opinions.
>> > >
>> > > Lee
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > >
>> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Geoff Farrell
>> > > Sent: Mon 4/26/2010 7:48 PM
>> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Thanks for the warm welcomes
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks to all of you for the warm welcome. I have a place in Gulf
>> Shores,
>> > > AL
>> > > so I will initially be sailing in Mobile Bay until I get enough
>> experience
>> > > and courage to venture out some. I am a new sailor. Just took lessons
>> about
>> > > 3 weeks ago. Rob: I'm a vodka man but I always have some Captain Morgan
>> > > around for friends.
>> > >
>> > > I'm interested in the Rhodes (and a couple of other makes) because of
>> the
>> > > wonderful reviews it gets online. I've done a lot of research. My head
>> is
>> > > spinning. Also, I was very impressed with General Boat's site. The
>> content
>> > > seemed to "come from the heart" and therefore gave me confidence in the
>> > > builder as well as the product.
>> > >
>> > > My primary residence is in central WI so I'm trying to decide if I want
>> to
>> > > trail the boat (I eventually buy) to WI or if I want to just leave it
>> in
>> > > Gulf Shores. If I trail it back to WI I could launch it in Green Lake
>> which
>> > > is only about an hour from me.
>> > >
>> > > I will be single handling most of the time as my wife has some
>> > > trepidations.
>> > > But, I hope to ease her into it. Hey, I convinced her to marry me so
>> > > getting
>> > > her aboard shouldn't be anywhere near as hard.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks again, Geoff
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