[Rhodes22-list] Boat Damage From Car
Alex McKenna
alex at brightrhino.com
Wed Jun 2 14:59:06 EDT 2010
Deena,
Sorry for taking to long to reply, I didn't notice your message since it
wasn't in the main thread.
I will look into the legal options, I have not heard of that procedure
before.
Fortunately, the police ran the license plate, and the owner (not the
driver) had insurance.
I have been meaning to comment on your nice website. Good job!
Thanks,
Alex
Captainpy-2 wrote:
>
> First let me say sorry to hear about your boat.
> First I would contact their insurance company to find out if they really
> are
> insured there. Second in Virginia you can see the magistrate and get what
> is called a warrant in debtenue (sorry I probably spelled in wrong) for
> about 14$. It is a court order summoning them to appear in civil court.
> If
> they do not show up, the judge issues a bench warrant and or will rule in
> your favor regardless. The only problem with that is there is a monetary
> limit for those types of court cases. CT should have something similar.
> Our insurance would not fix a car that was hit by
> A woman who was at fault, and lied about having insurance. I had to
> obtain
> a written statement from her insurance company to give usaa before usaa
> would fix my car under a comprehensive collision policy.
>
> Deena AKA Captain Py
> www.militarymarina.com
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> 1. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Alex McKenna)
> 2. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Alex McKenna)
> 3. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Alex McKenna)
> 4. Re: Picnic 17 (Stephen Staum)
> 5. Re: Happy 60th birthday to Rummy (elle)
> 6. Re: Jib lines without roller question (Michael D. Weisner)
> 7. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (John Shulick)
> 8. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Saroj)
> 9. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Michael D. Weisner)
> 10. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (John Shulick)
> 11. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Michael D. Weisner)
> 12. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
> 13. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (Geankoplis)
> 14. Re: Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved? (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> 15. Knockdown (BenCittadino)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:16:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Alex McKenna <alex at brightrhino.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
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>
> The police picked up the driver a few minutes after the accident, they
> intimated he was drinking, but said in CT they would be unable to
> prosecute
> a DUI since he was no longer in the car, I just moved here, and don't know
> the law. He has insurance through state farm, and actually came to our
> house
> to apologize on Sunday. He said he was driving home late from work, I
> didn't
> see any point in asking if he was drinking. English was not his native
> language. He gave me his name and phone number, and offered to pay for all
> the damage. I showed him the pictures, he was astounded at the carnage.
>
> I am waiting for the police report.
>
> I got the boat as a gift last year from a fellow in New Jersey, and was on
> the list then asking some questions about adapting my dual-axle aluminum
> trailer, which is in very good shape, for the Rhodes. I welded up some
> brackets, which worked fine for getting the boat home. I left it for the
> winter, and was about to empty it out and start restoration this week, I
> had
> made space in the garage for the contents.
>
> Stan is not familiar with the boat, although we were trying to visit
> General
> Boats on the drive up here from Florida.
>
>
>
>>The good news is that the area that was hit hardest is probably one of the
>>best areas to have damage. The impact must have lifted the entire boat
and
>
>>trailer over the Honda's roof by the windshield, actually reducing the
>>potential damage by permitting the car to continue moving rather than
>>sustaining the force associated with arresting the car's motion. Stresses
>>in this area are spread over a large area and the fiberglass is fairly
> thin.
>>There are few structural components in this section other than the hull
>>itself.
>
> This is good news.
>
>>Did the damage impact the stern cockpit or just the laz? Does the
>>damage extend to the area hidden by foam? Is the cockpit floor buckled? A
>>competent 'glass mechanic should be able to effect a solid repair if the
>>damage is mostly to the hull. Stan should be consulted.
>
> I haven't been inside the boat yet, we have just finished removing all the
> dangerous debris, full of nails and glass fragments, to make the area
> safer
> for our two young children. I will try to look at all this.
>
>
>>Assuming that you might have some difficulty with the Honda owner's
>>insurance company, do you have insurance coverage on the boat? Does your
>>auto insurance cover the damage since it was on the trailer (even if not
>>hooked to your car?) Were the boat and trailer registered with DMV? How
>>about your homeowner's insurance coverage?
>
> Our homeowner's insurance will cover only $1000 of the damage to the boat.
> We also have a $1000 deductible on the policy. The same company has our
> car
> insurance, but the trailer is still registered in FL, and no insurance is
> required in FL on the trailer. I have not registered the boat yet, as I
> did
> not know when I would have it restored enough to sail. The hope was this
> summer.
>
> The Honda driver is insured by state farm.
>
> The boat is an '81, like yours.
>
> I am interested in doing the repairs myself, if possible. That was kind of
> the whole point in taking this sailboat, to enjoy restoring it so our
> family
> could enjoy it together, especially since our kids are young, 3 and 6.
>
> I appreciate everyone's help and encouragement. We will sail a Rhodes 22,
> one way or another.
>
> Alex
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Alex McKenna <alex at brightrhino.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
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>
> Hi Alex,
> That is so sad! What a shame. Amazing that no one was killed.
>
>
>
>>As for the boat, that doesn't look good at all. You really will need
>>to go through the entire boat to see if there is damage you are
>>missing before you can determine if it is worth fixing. Is the
>>centerboard trunk still intact? Are the bulkheads and stringers still
>>in place or is there hidden damage there? You'll also need to check
>>the hull on the opposite side from the blow to see if it is damaged
>>from contact with the trailer bunks.
>
> I haven't been inside the boat yet, I will take a look as soon as I can.
> The
> boat did not appear to shift appreciably on the trailer, it was still
> strapped on snugly, so perhaps there was little lateral damage.
>
>>If there is any insurance money, it might be worth sending to Stan -
>>he's fixed a lot of damage but I'd crawl around in it first before
>>even making that decision. It might be easier to junk it and find
>>another. If the damage turns out to be limited to the hull, it might
>>be fixable. There are probably plenty of places down on the coast if
>>your trailer is still operational.
>
> Homeowner's insurance said they will only cover $1000 on the boat, and
> there
> is a $1000 deductible on the policy, I may have better luck pursuing it
> with
> his insurer.
> The trailer was recently restored, and has all new running gear, hanger's,
> springs, bearings, surge brakes etc. So I could drive it somewhere to have
> it inspected for an estimate.
>
>>If I remember correctly, this is an older boat. I guess the only
>>saving grace is that you had not put all the work into restoring it.
>
> It's an '81, I am glad about that as well.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts,
>
> Alex
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Alex McKenna <alex at brightrhino.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
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>
>>That's some story. The Civic driver owes you all damages. If he pays up,
>>you can have the work done professionally
>
> That would be a terrific outcome!
>
> Alex
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:31:13 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Picnic 17
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> Thanks Mary Lou, great pics!
>
> Stephen Staum
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> wrote:
>
>> A long while back we had a discussion about the Picnic 17, a
>> predecessor of the Rhodes 22. At the time there didn't seem to be
>> much info out there. I just came across this website and thought some
>> of you might be interested.
>>
>> http://www.rvharvey.com/picnic.htm
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 15:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Happy 60th birthday to Rummy
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> Happy BD. Rummy, a;beit a bit late. Been doing some heavy commuting
> lately,
> so nto home in stretches...
> Have another one for me..
> elle
>
> Beer is good....people are crazy
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
>
> --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>
> From: Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Happy 60th birthday to Rummy
> To: "Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:48 PM
>
> Hi Rummy,
>
> Happy 60th birthday!!? You made it!? I am right behind you, 57 on Sunday.
>
> Here, here, a toast (a few, actually):
> ? For all the advances in medicine, there is still no cure for the common
> birthday. (John Glenn)
>
> ? I wanted to show I had balls at age 60. Just because society says I'm
> old,
> doesn't mean that I am. I'm pursuing happiness, even if it makes the
> people
> around me unhappy.? (Sylvester Stallone)
> and my personal favorite:
> ? Age is strictly a case of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it
> doesn't
> matter. Jack Benny)
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:20:42 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jib lines without roller question
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> Lee,
>
> When my girls were young we tried to teach them how to sail, starting with
> the proper names for everything. They and many of their friends insisted
> on
>
> "pulling the ropes" (or worse, strings) when instructed to sheet in. I
> still laugh about it. Now that they are grown, I miss those sailings
> spent
> playing with all of the ropes ...
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leland" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jib lines without roller question
>
>
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> Lots of ropes on my boat too. Feel free to stop by if you're in
>> Annapolis.
>>
>> If you've never been to Rock Hall it's very quaint and interesting and
>> well
>> worth the visit if you happen to be in the neighborhood (the middle of
>> nowhere). You can see it from the Kent Narrows bridge and can get there
>> just about as fast with a slow-moving sailboat as you can by car.
>>
>> Lee
>> 1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
>> Kent Island, MD
>>
>>
>> Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Greg,
>>> We live about 3 miles from the boat so you are welcome most any time
>>> we are in town. We are on the other side of the Bay from Baltimore
>>> and Annapolis - about an hour and fifteen minutes from Annapolis
>>> across the Bay Bridge, about the same distance from North East.
>>>
>>> The invitation goes for the rest of you. Always great to meet other
>>> Rhodies.
>>>
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 07:25 AM 5/25/2010, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Missed the thread with the link to the picture. Thanks!
>>>>I am now around the Annapolis/Baltimore area frequently on business.
>>>>Maybe
>> I
>>>>could bother you one day when you are at your boat to show me the ropes?
>>>>
>>>>-----
>>>>Greg PA
>>>>s/v SERENITY
>>>>79 Rhodes 22
>>>>North East MD
>>>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 17:26:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
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> Alex,
>
> Sorry to see what has happened to your boat. I'm more sorry to say the
> insurance bastards will probably screw you to the wall and give you next
> to
> nothing citing the age of the boat for their excuse.
> Also because of the age stan may or may not even give you the time of day
> as
> he is not usually inclined to do anything for the owners of older rhodes
> especially if he has not received his 5% homage. That being said it is my
> humble opinion that the damage is repairable if you have the time and
> skill
> and tools to do the job. Those tools and skills would include the ability
> to
> separate the hull from the deck at the rub rail (there is a joint there)
> removing the deck and cockpit and working from the inside of the hull
> rebuilding everything as you go then putting it all back together. Quite a
> project but doable. Might be cheaper to find another boat. I wish you the
> best of luck and hope all works out in the end.
>
> John S
>
>
> Alex McKenna wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but Saturday
>> at 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the sound
>> of an explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our
>> lawn. A man fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic through
>> our fence, smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer. The
>> boat was still tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k pound
>> straps. He was still going so fast after the collision, he demolished two
>> more fences, throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull has
>> three or fours cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for
>> repairs, but we recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops in
>> the area.
>>
>> What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be able
>> to grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get
>> access to the inner hull.
>>
>> Here are some pics of the damage:
>>
>> Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
>> arrived.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alex
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:18:32 -0400
> From: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
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> Alex, so sorry to hear of your damage... how disappointing!
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:33:57 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
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> John,
>
> While you are probably correct about the insurance value of the '81
> Rhodes,
> why would you separate the deck and the hull? Most of us do not have a
> lifting mechanism capable of doing so. I would think that most of the
> damage might be reachable from the laz (not very comfortable but it does
> provide access to the hull at that point.) When I needed to do a fair
> amount of work on my R22, I thoroughly cleaned and repainted my laz before
> spending a fair amount of time in there working on repairs. There was
> plenty of room for my 5'11" frame in the laz, although I must admit, it
> would have been easier if I had lost 30 pounds or so. Pillows helped a
> lot.
>
> Your point about finding another Rhodes 22 is well taken, although I
> haven't
>
> seen many for sale lately. As far as the 5% fee for Stan, I believe Alex
> said he paid nothing for the boat (it was a gift) so Stan has already
> received all the fee that he is entitled to.
>
> I still think that unless Alex is real good at 'glass repair, the boat
> should be repaired professionally and the best place is still GBI (and may
> be the least costly if Stan is in a good mood.)
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "John Shulick" Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:26 PM
>> Alex,
>>
>> Sorry to see what has happened to your boat. I'm more sorry to say the
>> insurance bastards will probably screw you to the wall and give you next
>> to
>> nothing citing the age of the boat for their excuse.
>> Also because of the age stan may or may not even give you the time of day
>> as
>> he is not usually inclined to do anything for the owners of older rhodes
>> especially if he has not received his 5% homage. That being said it is my
>> humble opinion that the damage is repairable if you have the time and
>> skill
>> and tools to do the job. Those tools and skills would include the ability
>> to
>> separate the hull from the deck at the rub rail (there is a joint there)
>> removing the deck and cockpit and working from the inside of the hull
>> rebuilding everything as you go then putting it all back together. Quite
>> a
>> project but doable. Might be cheaper to find another boat. I wish you the
>> best of luck and hope all works out in the end.
>>
>> John S
>>
>>
>> Alex McKenna wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but Saturday
>>> at 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the sound
>>> of an explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our
>>> lawn. A man fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic through
>>> our fence, smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer. The
>>> boat was still tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k pound
>>> straps. He was still going so fast after the collision, he demolished
>>> two
>>> more fences, throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull
>>> has
>>> three or fours cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for
>>> repairs, but we recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops
>>> in
>>> the area.
>>>
>>> What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be
>>> able
>>> to grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get
>>> access to the inner hull.
>>>
>>> Here are some pics of the damage:
>>>
>>> Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
>>> arrived.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
> Mike,
>
> From the pictures I saw reaching all the cracks would be problematic at
> best given the cramped conditions in the laz and the need to grind the
> surface to prepare it properly for the glass sheets and resin to bond
> properly, Particular concern would be the cracks below the plimsol line,
> they may extend into the area where the foam flotation area is under the
> cockpit floor and not accessible. I am also assuming a worst case scenario
> so any surprises would be on the plus side. I have managed to my surprise
> to
> fit my 6'0" 290 lb frame into the laz to do some bolt tightening and such
> but it was pretty tight quarters. the deck by itself can't weigh that much
> an old rhodes comes in at around 2500 lbs 700 of that is ballast so 1800/2
> equals about 900 or so pounds and probably is less since we haven't
> considered mast and wood work at all. A rented mobile cherry picker should
> do the job. 2 one day rentals should do, one to get it off and lay aside
> and
> one to put it back on. I Also point out this would give easy access to
> everything in the boat with regard to stringers and such for a total
> rebuild
> which should be equal to or superior to any thing stans people can crank
> out. This is not a job for the faint of heart or non handy people. It
> would
> be much easier to simply throw money at someone else to do the job I
> agree,
> but that is not always possible. Any boat yard (including stan) would
> probably charge materials x 5 for labor I doubt you would get a bid under
> $10,000 for anyone to touch the job. For that much I could work miracles.
> Nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong on this, I hope
> someone
> brings this thread to stans attention and he underbids my estimate. I
> don't
> like the thought of any rhodes being scuttled old or new.
>
> Best wishes
> John S
>
>
> R22MikeW wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> While you are probably correct about the insurance value of the '81
>> Rhodes,
>> why would you separate the deck and the hull? Most of us do not have a
>> lifting mechanism capable of doing so. I would think that most of the
>> damage might be reachable from the laz (not very comfortable but it does
>> provide access to the hull at that point.) When I needed to do a fair
>> amount of work on my R22, I thoroughly cleaned and repainted my laz
>> before
>
>> spending a fair amount of time in there working on repairs. There was
>> plenty of room for my 5'11" frame in the laz, although I must admit, it
>> would have been easier if I had lost 30 pounds or so. Pillows helped a
>> lot.
>>
>> Your point about finding another Rhodes 22 is well taken, although I
>> haven't
>> seen many for sale lately. As far as the 5% fee for Stan, I believe Alex
>> said he paid nothing for the boat (it was a gift) so Stan has already
>> received all the fee that he is entitled to.
>>
>> I still think that unless Alex is real good at 'glass repair, the boat
>> should be repaired professionally and the best place is still GBI (and
>> may
>
>> be the least costly if Stan is in a good mood.)
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>> From: "John Shulick" Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:26 PM
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>> Sorry to see what has happened to your boat. I'm more sorry to say the
>>> insurance bastards will probably screw you to the wall and give you next
>>> to
>>> nothing citing the age of the boat for their excuse.
>>> Also because of the age stan may or may not even give you the time of
>>> day
>
>>> as
>>> he is not usually inclined to do anything for the owners of older rhodes
>>> especially if he has not received his 5% homage. That being said it is
>>> my
>>> humble opinion that the damage is repairable if you have the time and
>>> skill
>>> and tools to do the job. Those tools and skills would include the
>>> ability
>
>>> to
>>> separate the hull from the deck at the rub rail (there is a joint there)
>>> removing the deck and cockpit and working from the inside of the hull
>>> rebuilding everything as you go then putting it all back together. Quite
>>> a
>>> project but doable. Might be cheaper to find another boat. I wish you
>>> the
>>> best of luck and hope all works out in the end.
>>>
>>> John S
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex McKenna wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but
>>>> Saturday
>>>> at 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the
>>>> sound
>>>> of an explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our
>>>> lawn. A man fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic through
>>>> our fence, smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer. The
>>>> boat was still tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k pound
>>>> straps. He was still going so fast after the collision, he demolished
>>>> two
>>>> more fences, throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull
>>>> has
>>>> three or fours cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for
>>>> repairs, but we recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops
>>>> in
>>>> the area.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be
>>>> able
>>>> to grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get
>>>> access to the inner hull.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some pics of the damage:
>>>>
>>>> Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
>>>> arrived.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:08:16 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <9E08011696A54791A1715C874DC7C4A6 at acer7e8cb8aec8>
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>
> John,
>
> First, I pretty much agree with you on everything.
>
> Way back when my Rhodes was under construction, I had the pleasure to
> watch
> the factory build Rhodes every day as visited (I worked near the NY
> plant.)
> As I recall, when the hull was separated from the deck, the hull was in a
> "mold" or carrier. I wonder if it is safe to leave the hull in the
> trailer
> bunks while the deck is removed. Does the hull need special support? The
> other thing that I remember was that the decks were lifted at several
> points
>
> using a harness. The decks were also placed on rolling carriers (I don't
> think that they sit flat) so the deck might also need a cradle for
> support.
> Seems like a bigger job than I would want to tackle.
>
> Hopefully, the damage is not as severe as to warrant removal of the deck.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "John Shulick" Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:25 PM
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> From the pictures I saw reaching all the cracks would be problematic at
>> best given the cramped conditions in the laz and the need to grind the
>> surface to prepare it properly for the glass sheets and resin to bond
>> properly, Particular concern would be the cracks below the plimsol line,
>> they may extend into the area where the foam flotation area is under the
>> cockpit floor and not accessible. I am also assuming a worst case
>> scenario
>> so any surprises would be on the plus side. I have managed to my surprise
>> to
>> fit my 6'0" 290 lb frame into the laz to do some bolt tightening and such
>> but it was pretty tight quarters. the deck by itself can't weigh that
>> much
>> an old rhodes comes in at around 2500 lbs 700 of that is ballast so
>> 1800/2
>> equals about 900 or so pounds and probably is less since we haven't
>> considered mast and wood work at all. A rented mobile cherry picker
>> should
>> do the job. 2 one day rentals should do, one to get it off and lay aside
>> and
>> one to put it back on. I Also point out this would give easy access to
>> everything in the boat with regard to stringers and such for a total
>> rebuild
>> which should be equal to or superior to any thing stans people can crank
>> out. This is not a job for the faint of heart or non handy people. It
>> would
>> be much easier to simply throw money at someone else to do the job I
>> agree,
>> but that is not always possible. Any boat yard (including stan) would
>> probably charge materials x 5 for labor I doubt you would get a bid under
>> $10,000 for anyone to touch the job. For that much I could work miracles.
>> Nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong on this, I hope
>> someone
>> brings this thread to stans attention and he underbids my estimate. I
>> don't
>> like the thought of any rhodes being scuttled old or new.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> John S
>>
>>
>> R22MikeW wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> While you are probably correct about the insurance value of the '81
>>> Rhodes,
>>> why would you separate the deck and the hull? Most of us do not have a
>>> lifting mechanism capable of doing so. I would think that most of the
>>> damage might be reachable from the laz (not very comfortable but it does
>>> provide access to the hull at that point.) When I needed to do a fair
>>> amount of work on my R22, I thoroughly cleaned and repainted my laz
>>> before
>>> spending a fair amount of time in there working on repairs. There was
>>> plenty of room for my 5'11" frame in the laz, although I must admit, it
>>> would have been easier if I had lost 30 pounds or so. Pillows helped a
>>> lot.
>>>
>>> Your point about finding another Rhodes 22 is well taken, although I
>>> haven't
>>> seen many for sale lately. As far as the 5% fee for Stan, I believe
>>> Alex
>>> said he paid nothing for the boat (it was a gift) so Stan has already
>>> received all the fee that he is entitled to.
>>>
>>> I still think that unless Alex is real good at 'glass repair, the boat
>>> should be repaired professionally and the best place is still GBI (and
>>> may
>>> be the least costly if Stan is in a good mood.)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "John Shulick" Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:26 PM
>>>> Alex,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to see what has happened to your boat. I'm more sorry to say the
>>>> insurance bastards will probably screw you to the wall and give you
>>>> next
>>>> to
>>>> nothing citing the age of the boat for their excuse.
>>>> Also because of the age stan may or may not even give you the time of
>>>> day
>>>> as
>>>> he is not usually inclined to do anything for the owners of older
>>>> rhodes
>>>> especially if he has not received his 5% homage. That being said it is
>>>> my
>>>> humble opinion that the damage is repairable if you have the time and
>>>> skill
>>>> and tools to do the job. Those tools and skills would include the
>>>> ability
>>>> to
>>>> separate the hull from the deck at the rub rail (there is a joint
>>>> there)
>>>> removing the deck and cockpit and working from the inside of the hull
>>>> rebuilding everything as you go then putting it all back together.
>>>> Quite
>>>> a
>>>> project but doable. Might be cheaper to find another boat. I wish you
>>>> the
>>>> best of luck and hope all works out in the end.
>>>>
>>>> John S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alex McKenna wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but
>>>>> Saturday
>>>>> at 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the
>>>>> sound
>>>>> of an explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our
>>>>> lawn. A man fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic
>>>>> through
>>>>> our fence, smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer.
>>>>> The
>>>>> boat was still tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k
>>>>> pound
>>>>> straps. He was still going so fast after the collision, he demolished
>>>>> two
>>>>> more fences, throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull
>>>>> has
>>>>> three or fours cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for
>>>>> repairs, but we recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops
>>>>> in
>>>>> the area.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be
>>>>> able
>>>>> to grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get
>>>>> access to the inner hull.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some pics of the damage:
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
>>>>> arrived.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 00:08:49 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
> Alex,
>
> I'd take the pictures to a credible boatyard for evaluation. John Lock
> owns
> my first R22, 1979 vintage, which suffered major damage before it was
> restored by it's then owner. I sold it to a NC rookie who damaged the
> keel,
> then sold it to John, who repaired this damage. While there was a concave
> flexure I discovered while I owned it, it sailed well and continues to do
> well now.
>
> Just from a superficial look at the pictures, know that much of the area
> inside the damaged surface is packed with floatation, which therefore
> should
> reinforce a hull repair well. Serious structural damage in the laz area
> should be very visible from the laz opening, possible using mirrors.
> Shine
> auto headlamps on it at night and look for light shining thru. I don't
> think major trauma to recover if you have a good shop to access. You may
> even be able to repair part or all yourself.
>
> Remember that it was not perfect when you received it, you have just
> extended the time for restoration a mite. Keep us posted on your
> progress!
>
> Art
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Alex Mckenna <alex at brightrhino.com>
>>Sent: May 25, 2010 9:42 AM
>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but Saturday
at
> 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the sound of
> an
> explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our lawn. A
> man
> fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic through our fence,
> smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer. The boat was
> still
> tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k pound straps. He was
> still going so fast after the collision, he demolished two more fences,
> throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull has three or
> fours
> cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for repairs, but we
> recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops in the area.
>>
>>What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be able
> to grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get
> access
> to the inner hull.
>>
>>Here are some pics of the damage:
>>
>>Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
> arrived.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Alex
>>
>>-------------- next part --------------
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:31:28 -0700
> From: "Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Not often you see antifouling paint from the bottom of your boat on TOP of
> a
> car. It doesn't look good for your $9,000 boat. I fear it is totaled.
> Bummer. Hope the insurance pays up quickly, then buy back the boat for
> salvage.
>
> Chris G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Alex Mckenna
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 06:42
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
>
> Hi,
>
> This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but Saturday
> at
> 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the sound of
> an
> explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our lawn. A
> man
> fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic through our fence,
> smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer. The boat was
> still
> tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k pound straps. He was
> still going so fast after the collision, he demolished two more fences,
> throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull has three or
> fours
> cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for repairs, but we
> recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops in the area.
>
> What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be able
> to
> grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get access
> to
> the inner hull.
>
> Here are some pics of the damage:
>
> Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
> arrived.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 07:37:49 EDT
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Alex,
> Bummer is the only word that comes to mind. I've read all the posts
> offering advice and some on right on and others are totally off the wall.
> A
> good
> auto body shop that has experience with Corvettes might be a good way to
> go
> if you don't have a good marina near by that does that kind of work.
> Fiberglass is light, strong and easily repaired and reinforced during the
> repair. A little research on your part and you might attempt the repairs
> yourself. DO NOT SEPERATE THE HULL HALVES. Totally not necessary. Also,
> the
>
> insurance company might be able to direct you to a good repair shop.
> This is totally repairable and worth doing.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 5/25/2010 9:42:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> alex at brightrhino.com writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but Saturday
> at 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the sound
> of
>
> an explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our lawn.
> A
>
> man fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic through our
> fence,
> smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer. The boat was
> still tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k pound straps. He
> was
> still going so fast after the collision, he demolished two more fences,
> throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull has three or
> fours
>
> cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for repairs, but we
> recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops in the area.
>
> What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be able
> to grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get
> access
>
> to the inner hull.
>
> Here are some pics of the damage:
>
> Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
> arrived.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:55:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Knockdown
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
> Has anyone ever been in a Rhodes 22 that experienced a knockdown? How
> close
> has anybody ever come? I'm in the mood for a "sea story". Anybody want to
> tell one??
>
> Ben C
> S/V Susan Kay (93 recy 08)
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