[Rhodes22-list] OB Motors ( for Rummy)

Chris Cowie ccowie at cowieassociates.com
Thu Jun 24 09:29:58 EDT 2010 

Rob:
Thanks for the link.  The winch on my motor lift is a Warn product, exactly the link you provided.  The cable is replaced with a strap.  This set up works great for me.  The only trouble I have had is the wire connections from the up and down switch to the power unit that I need to replace with a more reliable set of connections.  The manual clearly shows how to engage and disengage the winch using the knob on the side of the unit.  I assume I would want to take any load off the winch prior to disengaging.  Thanks for the info.

Christopher P. Cowie    


4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW 
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From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OB Motors ( for Rummy)

I recall somewhere along this discussion of the winch that it is a Warn Product?  Something like this one with the cable replaced by a strap?  You can get to the owner's manual on this page which describes how the knob works. - rob

http://www.warn.com/works/dcwinches/1700DC.shtml



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Rick:

The knob is located on the side of the winch.  See photo enclosed.  I
beleive that the knob keeps the winch engaged and that if I pull the knob
out it disengages the winch thereby letting it run free.  I have not
released the winch using the knob and assume I would first need to remove
any load so that the engine doesn't run free crashing down on the motor
lift?  I suppose I would rig a line to the motor to take off the load,
disengage the winch by pulling out the knob and then slowley lower the
motor/lift.  I do have the manual for the winch around someplace but as I
recall it wasn't very informative beyond saying how to disengage the knob
and no details on the up/down switch wiring.

My R 2008 came with the winch installed by stan and I love it.  I notice
that Frank's R2009 has a different style winch with a remote control.  I
like having the manual switch.

http://old.nabble.com/file/p28976657/IMG_0500r.jpg IMG_0500r.jpg 


Blue Heron wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Tell me more about the knob.  Do you turn it to lower the motor?  Where is
> it located--on the laz bulkhead on the cockpit side?
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Chris Cowie
> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>wrote:
> 
>> My lift has a little knob on the side but I prefer to squeeze the nuts
>> to make it go up and down.
>>
>> Chris Cowie
>> Cowie Associates PC
>>
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 1:21 PM, "R22RumRunner at aol.com" <R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>  > wrote:
>>
>> > I have Stan's electric lift system and wouldn't trade it for
>> > anything. On
>> > my model, there is a manual override on the lift motor to allow for
>> > manual
>> > lowering or raising if necessary. I know this because I installed it
>> > myself.
>> >  Those that have a factory installation would be lucky if they
>> > received an
>> > owners  manual or they would never know about it.
>> >
>> > Rummy
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 6/22/2010 12:53:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > staum at earthlink.net writes:
>> >
>> > You make  a good arguement for the simple & reliable manual lift
>> > system.
>> >
>> > Stephen Staum
>> > '87 R22, Carol Lee
>> >
>> > Sent from my  iPhone
>> >
>> > On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:52 AM, ftugwell at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> > >  On Saturday I was single-handing my Rhodes on the Potomac with good
>> > >  winds (around 15 k) and when I decided to return to port, the
>> > engine
>> > >  would not drop--in fact, nothing happened when I pressed the remote
>> > >  (this is new) button to lower the lift.  I called Stan, who went
>> > > through
>> > > all the alternatives with me: a) checking the  connections on the
>> > > busbar
>> > > in the laz, and on the  battery; b) reading the instructions to find
>> > > the
>> > >  release for the motor; and c) in an emergency situation, cutting
>> > the
>> > >  strap while holding the motor up with a line so that it does not
>> > drop.
>> > >  We had already determined that there was still power, since my
>> > >  instruments were all working.  I was in the middle of the
>> > channel  with
>> > > lots of boats zooming around and a good wind, so I decided to  go
>> > > back to
>> > > the marina area and anchor to check things  out.  Since it was
>> > > relatively
>> > > easy, I did reach in  the laz and, to my surprise, I found a loose
>> > nut
>> > > connection. (not a  wire nut, just a nut)  After I tightened it, the
>> > > motor lift  worked.  Many thanks to Stan for walking me through
>> > this on
>> > > my  new boat.  An aside: no surveyor will approve a boat for sale
>> > if  it
>> > > has wire nuts.  these are not for marine  use.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Joe Camp  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Rummy and Chris:
>> > >>
>> > >>   There seems to be a Freudian undertone in all of this  "nut"
>> > >> talk.
>> > >> Can we switch to something more  directly phallic, like "raising
>> > the
>> > >> mast?"  Just a thought,  but let's not hide our true natures...men.
>> > >>
>> > >>  Joe
>> > >> --- On Tue, 6/22/10, R22RumRunner at aol.com   wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com Subject:  Re: [Rhodes22-list] OB
>> > Motors (
>> > >> for Rummy)
>> > >> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:57  AM
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Wire nuts are not for marine use. I  prefer soldered connections
>> > with
>> > >> shrink tubing and then a layer of  liquid electrical tape. I'm
>> > glad we
>> > >> dug a little  deeper into  this subject.
>> > >>
>> > >>  Rummy
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> In a message dated 6/21/2010 1:35:40  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > >> ccowie at cowieassociates.com  writes:
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks  for the advice.  The nuts I  was referring to are not the
>> > wing
>> > >> nuts on the  battery rather  control wires from the outboard lift
>> > >> switch have wire nuts  that  seem to come a bit loose every now and
>> > >> then.  I  plan to replace them with  a  bette
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