[Rhodes22-list] looking for a Rhodes
Captainpy
captainpy at verizon.net
Wed Mar 17 10:19:53 EDT 2010
Dear Cathy,
In the beginning I wasn't all that interested in Sailing, it was my husband
Philip's interest. He had met Stan at the boat show in Florida while on
active duty and called me in Virginia. He was interested in a recycled
boat. Later we went together to the Annapolis boat show where I had the
Opportunity to meet Stan, see a Rhodes first hand and had a mini sailing
lesson in which I was able to man the tiller. I have to tell you how
impressed I was with the quality and handling of the Rhodes 22. The design
and safety issues were my primary concerns as I can not swim. Having been a
former store manager, customer service is also an issue. In this day and
age it is difficult to find quality, customer support and honesty. It is
not easy to impress me. I was so impressed with the Rhodes 22 I talked my
husband into a brand new Rhodes. We sail ours along the Chesapeake River.
The Rhodes 22 Makes and excellent river sailor and when other sail boats are
dead in the water due to low wind speed we are still sailing and have on
many occasion out maneuvered and passed much larger sailing vessels. It is
also an excellent single sailing vessel. Philip just sits back and I do all
the sailing now. It's now MY SAIL BOAT which I have named Southern
Sweetness and hope to participate in some regattas this summer.
As far as customer service and support you will not find anyone that can
come close to Stan. I was so impressed and enjoy sailing so much that I
created a website www.militarymarina.com and without any compensation choose
to help promote the Rhodes 22 sailboat. I am not advertising. I tell you
this only to help illustrate how happy and impressed I am with our Rhodes
22.
In regards to your concern about the price tag, you get what you pay for and
with the Rhodes 22 it is Quality, Craftsmanship, Outstanding Customer
Support. Should you choose to purchase a Rhodes I am sure you will not be
disappointed.
Sincerely,
Deena
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1. Re: Carrier landings (Lou Rosenberg)
2. Re: Speed fix (Alan Robertson)
3. Re: Speed fix (KUHN, LELAND)
4. Re: Carrier landings (mputnam1 at aol.com)
5. Carrier landings - Doing it and Observing it
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6. Carrier Landings (Benjamin Cittadino)
7. Looking for a Rhodes 22 (cathybettoney)
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9. Re: Looking for a Rhodes 22 (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
10. Re: Looking for a Rhodes 22 (Chris Cowie)
11. Re: Backstay Spreader Bars (Ellner)
12. Living in an M1 (Bob and Kathy Quinn)
13. Re: Looking for a Rhodes 22 (Bob and Kathy Quinn)
14. Re: Carrier landings - Doing it and Observing it (BenCittadino)
15. Re: Carrier landings - Doing it and Observing it (KUHN, LELAND)
16. Re: FW: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE' (Geankoplis)
17. Re: Looking for a Rhodes 22 (Alan Robertson)
18. Re: Looking for a Rhodes 22 (mputnam1 at aol.com)
19. Re: Looking for a Rhodes 22 (KUHN, LELAND)
20. Re: Looking for a Rhodes 22 (Linda Scott)
21. Re: Carrier Landings (KUHN, LELAND)
22. Re: FW: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE' (Geankoplis)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:43:31 -0400
From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Greg
much thanks for putting this on the board.. reminds me of that PBS
special I taped last year called " Carrier"
so much respect for all those on board who have to do this esp the
aviators...
but even the Paddle guys have stress too right!
Lou
s/v Miracles
Bklyn NY
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> Here are a couple of YouTube videos of pitch and roll... an exercise
> that is done with planes taking off and landing on a carrier when the
> carrier deck is pitching over 30 ft due to rough seas. Sort of like
> landing a plane on a sailboat.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:58:55 -0400
From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
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Jim,
I neglected to say that under conditions I mentioned below, best heel is
from 12-15 degrees for maximum speed, and hull flare seems to help rather
than hinder. Son-in-law (rail meat) refers to inclinometer as the
"vomitometer" because at 15 degrees heel he's ready to toss his cookies, in
spite of my caution about doing it into the wind!
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From:
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To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
Alan, Good information to log. I often sail sole which prevents rail
meat and limited use of our 175 head sail. My wife is aware of my
sailing skills and enjoys our boat ,"The Loon", best in the lift where
the cocktails don't tip. You did answer some of my concerns. I always
wondered if the Rhodes' flared hull had a negative affect on speed. The
loose footed main does compromise sail shape that can be compensated
for with use of the traveler and a makeshift boom vang system. If I can
keep the boom low, control the leece I can really see and feel a
difference in speed. Broad reach seems to be our best point of sail
compared with other boats. Both running and beating normally I see a
lot of stearns in front of me. I could use a good capt. from the U of
Penn sailing team. I know some individuals from the pen but neither
them nor their probation officer had any sailing skills. Jim J
Quoting Alan Robertson <bigal_61 at msn.com<mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com>>:
> With a 15 knot breeze on a broad reach and son (was on U. of Penn
> sailing team I
> n'77) at the helm, we have easily beaten Catalinas and O'Days and
> have held our
> own with deep keel Tanzers, all 22's We need 3 adults on windward
> side with 175
> jib out all the way which makes the difference. Hunter 24's pass us
> like we were
> creeping along. Wife won't sail under these conditions.
> THOR IV - Lake George NY
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
>
jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<mailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<mailt
o:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net%3Cmailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net>>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email
List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
>
>
> Hank,
> Thanks for the response. Yes, I have read several articles on
> sail boats that exceed the measured wind speed. Of course, I was
amazed
> at what I thought was impossible. DAH. I'm NOT a good sailor but if I
> am out on the lake and I see another sailboat I try to catch and pass
> the "competition". One O'Day-22 has been out on the lake several times
> and it appears my Rhodes is faster. I really don't know if a Rhodes is
> fast or not. It really helps that the other boats don't know they are
> in a race. Jim
>
> Quoting Hank
<hnw555 at gmail.com<mailto:hnw555 at gmail.com<mailto:hnw555 at gmail.com%3Cmailto:h
nw555 at gmail.com>>>:
> > Jim,
> >
> > Did you click on the link? Those are sail boats that go faster than
the
> > wind and only slightly more expensive than a rhodes. OK, maybe they
cost
> > slightly more than all rhodes ever built, but hey, they really
move!!!
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM,
>
<jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<mailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<mail
to:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net%3Cmailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net>
>>
> wrote:
> >
> > > It is called a "Stink Boat", uses many units of expensive fuel,
> > > normally very loud, recommended use by individuals with an IQ of
10 or
> > > less, often comes with male menapause and gold chains, often
faster
> > > than the wind while on a trailer.
> > >
> > > Quoting stan
<stan at rhodes22.com<mailto:stan at rhodes22.com<mailto:stan at rhodes22.com%3Cmailt
o:stan at rhodes22.com>>>:
> > > > I am slowing down - not trying to go faster
> > > >
> > > > ss
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rick"
>
<sloopblueheron at gmail.com<mailto:sloopblueheron at gmail.com<mailto:sloopbluehe
ron at gmail.com%3Cmailto:sloopblueheron at gmail.com>>>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
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> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:49 PM
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Stan,
> > > > >
> > > > > Got any plans to build a boat that sails faster than the wind?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.soundingsonline.com/news/dispatches/422-march-10/251672-the-cup-i
s-back-home<http://www.soundingsonline.com/news/dispatches/422-march-10/2516
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:11:41 -0400
From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Alan,
We call it the screamometer on our boat. I'm really a nice guy but I do
enjoy over-heeling just to watch the reaction. I still remember the
first time it happened to me. Crapometer comes to mind.
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
Kent Island, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Alan Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:59 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
Jim,
I neglected to say that under conditions I mentioned below, best heel is
from 12-15 degrees for maximum speed, and hull flare seems to help
rather than hinder. Son-in-law (rail meat) refers to inclinometer as the
"vomitometer" because at 15 degrees heel he's ready to toss his cookies,
in spite of my caution about doing it into the wind!
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From:
jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<mailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
Alan, Good information to log. I often sail sole which prevents rail
meat and limited use of our 175 head sail. My wife is aware of my
sailing skills and enjoys our boat ,"The Loon", best in the lift where
the cocktails don't tip. You did answer some of my concerns. I always
wondered if the Rhodes' flared hull had a negative affect on speed.
The
loose footed main does compromise sail shape that can be compensated
for with use of the traveler and a makeshift boom vang system. If I
can
keep the boom low, control the leece I can really see and feel a
difference in speed. Broad reach seems to be our best point of sail
compared with other boats. Both running and beating normally I see a
lot of stearns in front of me. I could use a good capt. from the U of
Penn sailing team. I know some individuals from the pen but neither
them nor their probation officer had any sailing skills. Jim J
Quoting Alan Robertson <bigal_61 at msn.com<mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com>>:
> With a 15 knot breeze on a broad reach and son (was on U. of Penn
> sailing team I
> n'77) at the helm, we have easily beaten Catalinas and O'Days and
> have held our
> own with deep keel Tanzers, all 22's We need 3 adults on windward
> side with 175
> jib out all the way which makes the difference. Hunter 24's pass us
> like we were
> creeping along. Wife won't sail under these conditions.
> THOR IV - Lake George NY
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
>
jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<mailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<m
ailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net%3Cmailto:jimtracyjohnston at centuryt
el.net>>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email
List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
>
>
> Hank,
> Thanks for the response. Yes, I have read several articles
on
> sail boats that exceed the measured wind speed. Of course, I was
amazed
> at what I thought was impossible. DAH. I'm NOT a good sailor but
if I
> am out on the lake and I see another sailboat I try to catch and
pass
> the "competition". One O'Day-22 has been out on the lake several
times
> and it appears my Rhodes is faster. I really don't know if a
Rhodes is
> fast or not. It really helps that the other boats don't know they
are
> in a race. Jim
>
> Quoting Hank
<hnw555 at gmail.com<mailto:hnw555 at gmail.com<mailto:hnw555 at gmail.com%3Cmail
to:hnw555 at gmail.com>>>:
> > Jim,
> >
> > Did you click on the link? Those are sail boats that go faster
than the
> > wind and only slightly more expensive than a rhodes. OK, maybe
they cost
> > slightly more than all rhodes ever built, but hey, they really
move!!!
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM,
>
<jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<mailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net<
mailto:jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net%3Cmailto:jimtracyjohnston at century
tel.net>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > > It is called a "Stink Boat", uses many units of expensive
fuel,
> > > normally very loud, recommended use by individuals with an IQ
of 10 or
> > > less, often comes with male menapause and gold chains, often
faster
> > > than the wind while on a trailer.
> > >
> > > Quoting stan
<stan at rhodes22.com<mailto:stan at rhodes22.com<mailto:stan at rhodes22.com%3Cm
ailto:stan at rhodes22.com>>>:
> > > > I am slowing down - not trying to go faster
> > > >
> > > > ss
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rick"
>
<sloopblueheron at gmail.com<mailto:sloopblueheron at gmail.com<mailto:sloopbl
ueheron at gmail.com%3Cmailto:sloopblueheron at gmail.com>>>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rho
des22-list at rhodes22.org%3Cmailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:49 PM
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Speed fix
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Stan,
> > > > >
> > > > > Got any plans to build a boat that sails faster than the
wind?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.soundingsonline.com/news/dispatches/422-march-10/251672-the-c
up-is-back-home<http://www.soundingsonline.com/news/dispatches/422-march
-10/251672-the-cup-is-back-home<http://www.soundingsonline.com/news/disp
atches/422-march-10/251672-the-cup-is-back-home%3Chttp://www.soundingson
line.com/news/dispatches/422-march-10/251672-the-cup-is-back-home>>
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:54:57 -0400
From: mputnam1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
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The first clip is from Carrier ... I haven't watched the second. That was a
great series.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
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Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
Greg
much thanks for putting this on the board.. reminds me of that PBS
special I taped last year called " Carrier"
so much respect for all those on board who have to do this esp the
aviators...
but even the Paddle guys have stress too right!
Lou
s/v Miracles
Bklyn NY
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> Here are a couple of YouTube videos of pitch and roll... an exercise
> that is done with planes taking off and landing on a carrier when the
> carrier deck is pitching over 30 ft due to rough seas. Sort of like
> landing a plane on a sailboat.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S0yj70QbBzg
>
> --Gregg
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:22:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob and Kathy Quinn <bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings - Doing it and Observing it
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As an Air Force guy I got to spend
three months with the US Navy in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. I
was stationed with the Joint Task Force Middle East on the USS LaSalle
Command and
Control ship during Desert Shield (escorting tankers in and out of Kuwait).
Went for some R&R (rest and recuperation) on the USS Constellation
carrier. I was on a COD (Carrier On Board delivery craft) going out and
coming back, so I got my "cat and trap" (catapult take off and trap
landing). I was on the carrier for a week and the Navy fliers treated me
with tours of the Tomcats and F18s. Observing nighttime launches and
recoveries from the deck and tower was a thrill. I can only imagine what it
would
be like from the cockpit. Bottom line: we owe the men and women
who serve in the US Navy a debt of gratitude for their service. The dangers
of daily operations and cramped quarters (the carrier was much more
comfortable than the LaSalle) made me appreciate the sacrifices endured by
our great Navy folks.
Bob in Florida
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Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:54:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
The first clip is from Carrier ... I haven't watched the second. That was a
great series.
Mark
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To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
Greg
much thanks for putting this on the board.. reminds me of that PBS
special I taped last year called " Carrier"
so much respect for all those on board who have to do this esp the
aviators...
but even the Paddle guys have stress too right!
Lou
s/v Miracles
Bklyn NY
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> Here are a couple of YouTube videos of pitch and roll... an exercise
> that is done with planes taking off and landing on a carrier when the
> carrier deck is pitching over 30 ft due to rough seas. Sort of like
> landing a plane on a sailboat.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S0yj70QbBzg
>
> --Gregg
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> 2002 Ford Circle, Milford, OH 45150
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:43:13 -0400
From: "Benjamin Cittadino" <BCittadino at dcs-law.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier Landings
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Gregg and Folks,
I have mentioned before that my oldest boy is a Navy F/A 18 pilot
currently on active duty. He is now deployed
To the North Arabian Sea and Gulf of Oman aboard the USS Dwight D
Eisenhower, a Nimitz-class nulear powered aircraft carrier.
The US has 11 carriers (10 Nimitz class and one other, the Enterprise
Ben's squadron is VFA-83, the "Rampagers",
and they are flying close air support and recon missions over
Afghanistan which requires launching from the "boat", flying
7 hrs (round trip) usually requiring three mid-air refuelings in all
types of weather, and landing at night on the carrier. As a Lieutenant
Commander
He is also the Maintenance Dept Head and responsible for supervising
that group of officers and enlisted people. On his last deployment he
Served as Air Wing "Paddles", the officer in charge of the people who
are on deck bringing the planes in for final approach (who are all
active pilots and take their turn flying missions when not on deck
"waving"). The carrier has about 5000 people aboard between the Air Wing
personnel and the Ship's Company. I got to go aboard and watch flight
operations last year on a ride between Jacksonville and Norfolk and it
was the thrill of a lifetime.
Attached is (I hope) his Christmas Card from his last deployment. As you
can tell from my going on and on I am a very proud father.
Ben was commissioned through the NROTC program at Duke (which also lead
to my commission in 1970 and my Dad's commission in 1944). It paid a
full tuition scholarship for Ben's education and if anybody has a son
(or daughter) interested in a military officer's career give me a shout
and I can give you more information. Thanks for the video, and the
chance to brag about my boy.
BenCittadino
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: cathybettoney <gbettoney at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
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We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike and have
looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s weren't
well built and haven't held up through time.
We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it has the
amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
sleeping quarters for three small people.
We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think 2'-3' deep
water, miles wide.
My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about the
Rhodes 22.
Cathy
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:38:05 EDT
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings - Doing it and
Observing it
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Bob,
You think and Navy ship is cramped? You ought to try living in an M1-A1
tank with three other people. We ate, slept and did everything else inside
those cans.
Rummy
In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:24:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net writes:
As an Air Force guy I got to spend
three months with the US Navy in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. I
was stationed with the Joint Task Force Middle East on the USS LaSalle
Command and
Control ship during Desert Shield (escorting tankers in and out of Kuwait).
Went for some R&R (rest and recuperation) on the USS Constellation
carrier. I was on a COD (Carrier On Board delivery craft) going out and
coming back, so I got my "cat and trap" (catapult take off and trap
landing). I was on the carrier for a week and the Navy fliers treated me
with tours of the Tomcats and F18s. Observing nighttime launches and
recoveries from the deck and tower was a thrill. I can only imagine what
it would
be like from the cockpit. Bottom line: we owe the men and women
who serve in the US Navy a debt of gratitude for their service. The
dangers of daily operations and cramped quarters (the carrier was much more
comfortable than the LaSalle) made me appreciate the sacrifices endured by
our
great Navy folks.
Bob in Florida
________________________________
From: "mputnam1 at aol.com" <mputnam1 at aol.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:54:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
The first clip is from Carrier ... I haven't watched the second. That was
a great series.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
Greg
much thanks for putting this on the board.. reminds me of that PBS
special I taped last year called " Carrier"
so much respect for all those on board who have to do this esp the
aviators...
but even the Paddle guys have stress too right!
Lou
s/v Miracles
Bklyn NY
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> Here are a couple of YouTube videos of pitch and roll... an exercise
> that is done with planes taking off and landing on a carrier when the
> carrier deck is pitching over 30 ft due to rough seas. Sort of like
> landing a plane on a sailboat.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S0yj70QbBzg
>
> --Gregg
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ _/) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> T e c h n e G r a p h i c s, I n c.
> 1 . 8 0 0 . 7 7 1 . 3 1 7 1
> 2002 Ford Circle, Milford, OH 45150
> mailto:gjm at techgra.com
> http://www.techgra.com
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:43:11 EDT
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
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Cathy,
Not to fear. The R22 is worth every penny you spend on one. You won't find
a better craft in the 22 foot range. The money you spend up front will be
returned to you on the back side when you do decide to sell. We do have some
R22 owners in Texas. Perhaps they will jump in and offer to show you their
pride and joys.
Rummy
Lake Hartwell
South Carolina
In a message dated 3/16/2010 6:55:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gbettoney at sbcglobal.net writes:
We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike and
have
looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s weren't
well built and haven't held up through time.
We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it has the
amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
sleeping quarters for three small people.
We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think 2'-3' deep
water, miles wide.
My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about the
Rhodes 22.
Cathy
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:10:03 -0400
From: "Chris Cowie" <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Cathy
What you are buying in a Rhodes 22 is quality design and construction
that includes features and amenities found in larger more expensive
boats. Gb puts their efforts into the boats and not into advertising
and expensive overhead. The Rhodes with it's big boat features comes
without the big boat headaches and cost. I am sure others will
provide usefull input. Good luck in your boat shopping.
Chris Cowie
Cowie Associates PC
On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:05 PM, "cathybettoney" <gbettoney at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike
> and have
> looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s
> weren't
> well built and haven't held up through time.
>
> We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it
> has the
> amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
> sleeping quarters for three small people.
>
> We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think
> 2'-3' deep
> water, miles wide.
>
> My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about
> the
> Rhodes 22.
>
> Cathy
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:07:42 -0500
From: Ellner <ellner at pressenter.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Backstay Spreader Bars
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When the IMF is at it lowest position, the GB traveler position is not
very much lower than the boom. If the traveler is at a higher position
the traveler may be too high for the boom to be in its lower position.
Rod Ellner
Mary Lou Troy wrote:
> Good point. I'm not sure our boom ever actually breaks the plane
> between our backstays but it comes close and anyone wanting to change
> the position of the traveller needs to keep in mind the angle of the
> mainsheet. At some point it will no longer effectively function as a
traveller.
>
> Best,
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 11:19 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:
>
>> I just read a few of your thoughts. Maybe I'm missing something but if
>> the traveler is raised the IMF and boom won't be able to be lower to the
>> low setting on the mast. Or will it?
>>
>> Rod Ellner
>>
>> Derek Dodson wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>> Thanks, I really like this idea and can make one easy enough. I have
also
>>> figured out that I need to leave the back stays loose and then
>>>
>> take up slack
>>
>>> with line on the top blocks. That will make raising and lowering mast
>>> quicker to adjust. I trailer my boat so looking for anyway to make
raising
>>> mast easy.
>>>
>>> Derek Dodson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:02 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Backstay Spreader Bars
>>>
>>> A couple years ago I built a new traveler for my '79 model It's
>>> actually relatively cheap and easy to do. In my case the main issue
>>> was access to the motor and rudder. The old traveler was set too low
>>> and was always in the way. Using a slightly shorter traveler allowed
>>> it to be set higher and solved the problem. Here's a web page from
>>> the project - http://www.relevantarts.com/pandion/traveler.html
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John Lock
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:36, Derek Dodson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rob,
>>>> That looks like a good quick option. I don't know if there is any
>>>> advantage
>>>> on having a traveler bar except just might give a little more head
>>>> room.
>>>>
>>>> Derek Dodson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:27 AM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Backstay Spreader Bars
>>>>
>>>> Derek,
>>>> Not all Rhodes have a traveler bar, but I expect your 86 should.
>>>> I've got a
>>>> 76 that uses a "traveler wire". See which one you have. Here's
>>>> what mine
>>>> looks like. - rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/20/travelerlowe
>>
>>>> r.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dodson
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:27 AM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Backstay Spreader Bars
>>>>
>>>> Hello, I am about ready to sail my 86 Rhodes and the only thing I
>>>> missing is
>>>> the transverse tubes that attach to the backstay. My backstay lines
>>>> have
>>>> blocks mounted on place where it looks like a stainless steel tube
>>>> should be
>>>> mounted.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help me or tell me the lengths of the tubes that are used?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Derek Dodson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:33:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob and Kathy Quinn <bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Living in an M1
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Rummy: I did not mean to imply in any way that the "other services" had it
made. However, "constant living" on a deployed ship is definitely a
challenge. I spent some time with 1st Cav in the Central Highlands in '67
while visiting my brother (I was up at DaNang). It certainly was not
pleasant living.
My hat is off to you.
Bob
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To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 7:38:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings - Doing it and Observing it
Bob,
You think and Navy ship is cramped? You ought to try living in an M1-A1
tank with three other people. We ate, slept and did everything else inside
those cans.
Rummy
In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:24:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net writes:
As an Air Force guy I got to spend
three months with the US Navy in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. I
was stationed with the Joint Task Force Middle East on the USS LaSalle
Command and
Control ship during Desert Shield (escorting tankers in and out of Kuwait).
Went for some R&R (rest and recuperation) on the USS Constellation
carrier. I was on a COD (Carrier On Board delivery craft) going out and
coming back, so I got my "cat and trap" (catapult take off and trap
landing). I was on the carrier for a week and the Navy fliers treated me
with tours of the Tomcats and F18s. Observing nighttime launches and
recoveries from the deck and tower was a thrill. I can only imagine what
it would
be like from the cockpit. Bottom line: we owe the men and women
who serve in the US Navy a debt of gratitude for their service. The
dangers of daily operations and cramped quarters (the carrier was much more
comfortable than the LaSalle) made me appreciate the sacrifices endured by
our
great Navy folks.
Bob in Florida
________________________________
From: "mputnam1 at aol.com" <mputnam1 at aol.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:54:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
The first clip is from Carrier ... I haven't watched the second. That was
a great series.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
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Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
Greg
much thanks for putting this on the board.. reminds me of that PBS
special I taped last year called " Carrier"
so much respect for all those on board who have to do this esp the
aviators...
but even the Paddle guys have stress too right!
Lou
s/v Miracles
Bklyn NY
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> Here are a couple of YouTube videos of pitch and roll... an exercise
> that is done with planes taking off and landing on a carrier when the
> carrier deck is pitching over 30 ft due to rough seas. Sort of like
> landing a plane on a sailboat.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S0yj70QbBzg
>
> --Gregg
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:43:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob and Kathy Quinn <bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
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Cathy: A great boat and a great recreational investment. We had our first
R22 for over 11 years and recovered 90% of our initial outlay. We did
spend money keeping the boat in great shape. Invested in new sails and
replaced other gear as necessary. We found the boat to more than meet our
expectations. Our two kids (near adults) when we picked up the boat and
two of our grandchildren pretty much learned to sail on the R22. Stan at
General Boats will work with you on a re-cycled boat where you cannot go
wrong.
We moved to a larger cruising boat for five years after retirement and are
now back on an R22. Having a ball sailing in shallow Florida waters.
Bob
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Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 6:55:15 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike and have
looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s weren't
well built and haven't held up through time.
We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it has the
amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
sleeping quarters for three small people.
We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think 2'-3' deep
water, miles wide.
My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about the
Rhodes 22.
Cathy
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings - Doing it and
Observing it
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Rummy;
If you don't mind saying, what years did you ride in the tank? I'm also
curious about the temperature inside them in the summer or hot climates?
A/C? In any event, thanks for your service. (Same to you Bob.) Bob, were
you an aircrew member? What types?
BenCittadino
R22RumRunner wrote:
>
> Bob,
> You think and Navy ship is cramped? You ought to try living in an M1-A1
> tank with three other people. We ate, slept and did everything else inside
> those cans.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:24:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net writes:
>
> As an Air Force guy I got to spend
> three months with the US Navy in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. I
> was stationed with the Joint Task Force Middle East on the USS LaSalle
> Command and
> Control ship during Desert Shield (escorting tankers in and out of
> Kuwait).
> Went for some R&R (rest and recuperation) on the USS Constellation
> carrier. I was on a COD (Carrier On Board delivery craft) going out and
> coming back, so I got my "cat and trap" (catapult take off and trap
> landing). I was on the carrier for a week and the Navy fliers treated me
> with tours of the Tomcats and F18s. Observing nighttime launches and
> recoveries from the deck and tower was a thrill. I can only imagine what
> it would
> be like from the cockpit. Bottom line: we owe the men and women
> who serve in the US Navy a debt of gratitude for their service. The
> dangers of daily operations and cramped quarters (the carrier was much
> more
> comfortable than the LaSalle) made me appreciate the sacrifices endured by
> our
> great Navy folks.
> Bob in Florida
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "mputnam1 at aol.com" <mputnam1 at aol.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:54:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
>
> The first clip is from Carrier ... I haven't watched the second. That
> was
> a great series.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
>
>
> Greg
> much thanks for putting this on the board.. reminds me of that PBS
> special I taped last year called " Carrier"
> so much respect for all those on board who have to do this esp the
> aviators...
>
> but even the Paddle guys have stress too right!
>
> Lou
> s/v Miracles
> Bklyn NY
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
>
>> Here are a couple of YouTube videos of pitch and roll... an exercise
>> that is done with planes taking off and landing on a carrier when the
>> carrier deck is pitching over 30 ft due to rough seas. Sort of like
>> landing a plane on a sailboat.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S0yj70QbBzg
>>
>> --Gregg
>>
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ _/) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> T e c h n e G r a p h i c s, I n c.
>> 1 . 8 0 0 . 7 7 1 . 3 1 7 1
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:48:22 -0400
From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings - Doing it and
Observing it
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Rummy,
Kind of like living on a Rhodes with a tank(ed) crew.
I wasn't a turret-head but I thought you guys had it made. I had to run
around behind you putting up and tearing down tents.
I really thought the Navy and Air Force had it much better until I toured a
sub and a carrier and took some hops to out-of-the-way air stations. 3
months a year in a tent looked better than 6 on a boat or 12 in the middle
of nowhere.
I just watched "The Hurt Locker" last night and now I really feel like I had
an easy job.
Lee
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Sent: Tue 3/16/2010 7:38 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings - Doing it and Observing it
Bob,
You think and Navy ship is cramped? You ought to try living in an M1-A1
tank with three other people. We ate, slept and did everything else inside
those cans.
Rummy
In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:24:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net writes:
As an Air Force guy I got to spend
three months with the US Navy in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. I
was stationed with the Joint Task Force Middle East on the USS LaSalle
Command and
Control ship during Desert Shield (escorting tankers in and out of Kuwait).
Went for some R&R (rest and recuperation) on the USS Constellation
carrier. I was on a COD (Carrier On Board delivery craft) going out and
coming back, so I got my "cat and trap" (catapult take off and trap
landing). I was on the carrier for a week and the Navy fliers treated me
with tours of the Tomcats and F18s. Observing nighttime launches and
recoveries from the deck and tower was a thrill. I can only imagine what
it would
be like from the cockpit. Bottom line: we owe the men and women
who serve in the US Navy a debt of gratitude for their service. The
dangers of daily operations and cramped quarters (the carrier was much more
comfortable than the LaSalle) made me appreciate the sacrifices endured by
our
great Navy folks.
Bob in Florida
________________________________
From: "mputnam1 at aol.com" <mputnam1 at aol.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:54:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
The first clip is from Carrier ... I haven't watched the second. That was
a great series.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier landings
Greg
much thanks for putting this on the board.. reminds me of that PBS
special I taped last year called " Carrier"
so much respect for all those on board who have to do this esp the
aviators...
but even the Paddle guys have stress too right!
Lou
s/v Miracles
Bklyn NY
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> Here are a couple of YouTube videos of pitch and roll... an exercise
> that is done with planes taking off and landing on a carrier when the
> carrier deck is pitching over 30 ft due to rough seas. Sort of like
> landing a plane on a sailboat.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S0yj70QbBzg
>
> --Gregg
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ _/) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> T e c h n e G r a p h i c s, I n c.
> 1 . 8 0 0 . 7 7 1 . 3 1 7 1
> 2002 Ford Circle, Milford, OH 45150
> mailto:gjm at techgra.com
> http://www.techgra.com
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:50:57 -0700
From: "Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF
LIFE'
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Great visual!
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Bradley
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 01:36
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'
Chris, thanks for forwarding this. Good to know living near the fault
line in Seattle.
I was sitting in the top floor of an office buidling in Sunnyvale, CA,
a few miles down the road from Milpitas, when the 4.6 (?) quake
centered there hit last month, a few days before the quake in Haiti.
Quite an experience to see the building visilbly sway from the inside.
All of us non-Californians in the meeting were wide-eyed. All the
Californians laughed at us. Which of course caused us to trash their
governaor, lifestyle and economy. And then the fight started.
Dave
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:
> My brother sent this to me, interesting, seems to make sense. ?Not a big
> concern for a lot of you (New Madrid faulties excepted).
>
> Chris da Greek G
>
>
>
> From: Brad Geankoplis [mailto:wanpro at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 16:30
> To: napoli68 at charter.net
> Subject: FW: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'
>
>
>
> I don't have any one else's email addresses on this computer. ?Please
> forward to those you think may have an interest.
>
>
>
> ?_____
>
> From: Brenton.sahm at sbcglobal.net [mailto:brenton.sahm at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:52 PM
> To: Rasmussen Eric; Mabry Dennis; South Gene; Savage Tony; Savage Ron;
Sahm
> Norm & Melissa; Sahm Jennifer; Reed Ben; Rasmussen Carol & Duane; Matzoll
> Trish; Matzoll Lindsey; Matzoll John; Matzoll Brent; Matzoll Ashleigh;
Karns
> John & Andy; Geankoplis Brad; Fleischer Rich; Feick Steve; Bridget Matos
> Subject: Fwd: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'
>
>
>
> Definitely worth the read...
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "David reckling" <david at moserinsurance.com>
> Date: March 10, 2010 11:43:22 AM PST
> To: "David reckling" <david at moserinsurance.com>
> Subject: FW: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'
>
>
>
> Good info
>
> ?_____
>
> --
>
>
>
> ?u ?u
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Fw: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?_____
>
>
>
> In light of what has happened in Haiti, the 'shake' in Venezuela a few
days
> ago,
>
> ?and then in the Cayman Islands shortly afterward, the following
information
> may be instructive.....
>
>
>
> =================================================================
>
>
>
> ?EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'
>
> My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the
> American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced
> rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an
> earthquake.
>
> I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams
from
> 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member
> of many rescue teams from many countries.
>
> I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I
have
> worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for
> simultaneous disasters.
>
> The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City
> during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child
was
> crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying
> down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I
> wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time
know
> that the children were told to hide under something. I am amazed that even
> today schools are still using the ?Duck and Cover? instructions- telling
the
> children to squat under their desks with their heads bowed and covered
with
> their hands. This was the technique used in the Mexico City school.
>
> Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling
> upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a
space
> or void next to them. This space is what I call the 'triangle of life'.
The
> larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the
> object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the
> person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next
time
> you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the 'triangles' you
see
> formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in
a
> collapsed building.
>
> TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
>
> 1) Almost everyone who simply 'ducks and covers' when buildings collapse
ARE
> CRUSHED TO DEATH.
>
> People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.
>
> 2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position.
You
> should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct.
That
> position helps you survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next
to
> a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave
a
> void next to it.
>
> 3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an
> earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake.
If
> the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also,
> the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick
buildings
> will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but
less
> squashed bodies than concrete slabs. Concrete slab buildings are the most
> dangerous during an earthquake.
>
> 4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply
roll
> off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a
> much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the
> back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor,
> next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
>
> 5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out
the
> door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a
> sofa, or large chair.
>
> 6) Almost everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is
> killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward
or
> backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls
> sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will
be
> killed!
>
> 7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different 'moment of
frequency
> (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and
> remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until
structural
> failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before
they
> fail are chopped up by the stair treads ? horribly mutilated. Even if the
> building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a
> likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not
> collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by
> fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the
rest
> of the building is not damaged.
>
> 8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible.
>
> It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the
> interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the
> building the greater the probability that your escape route will be
blocked.
>
> 9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls
in
> an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened
> with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the
> San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were
all
> killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and lying in the
> fetal position next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived
> if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to
them.
> All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the
cars
> that had columns fall directly across them.
>
> 10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and
> other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large
voids
> are found surrounding stacks of paper.
>
> In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be
correct.
> The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul , University of Istanbul
> Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific
> test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten
> mannequins did 'duck and cover,' and ten mannequins I used in my 'triangle
> of life' survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we
crawled
> through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the
> results.
>
> The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly
> observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed
> there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and
cover.
>
> There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my
> method of the 'triangle of life.' This film has been seen by millions of
> viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe , and it was seen
in
> the USA , Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV.
>
> Spread the word and save someone's life...
>
> The entire world is experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!
>
> ?_____
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:52:35 -0400
From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
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WE HAVE BEEN SAILING ONE FOR OVER 25 SEASONS; FOR WHAT YOU WANT, IT'S IDEAL
AND THE ONLY 22 WITH A DOUBLE BERTH IN MAIN CABIN. FOREPEAK BERTH WILL SLEEP
TWO TEENAGERS. OURS DRAWS 25' LOADED WITH SWING KEEL-CENTERBOARD UP WHICH
DOES NOT INTRUDE IN CABIN OR COCKPIT. THE WINDOW-SCREEN TENT WHICH FITS OVER
THE POP-TOP AND SNAPS ONTO THE HULL A MUST ACCESSORY IF SLEEPING OUT. GIVES
CABIN 6'2" HEADROOM
GET A RANGE OF REFURBISHED USED BOATS WHICH SELL FOR A LOT LESS FROM GENERAL
BOATS TO GET AN IDEA.
THOR IV ON LAKE GEORGE,NY
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We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike and
have
looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s
weren't
well built and haven't held up through time.
We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it has the
amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
sleeping quarters for three small people.
We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think 2'-3'
deep
water, miles wide.
My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about the
Rhodes 22.
Cathy
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:56:38 -0400
From: mputnam1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
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Cathy, the recycled Rhodes is the way to go if you're on a budget. Our '92
recycled boat was like a brand new boat when we got it and it was half the
cost of a new boat. It easily sleeps three people, the amenities are great,
lots of options, the inner-furling main is a great big-boat feature, and the
motor lift is great if you want a power assist but even without the power
version, it's still easy to put the motor up and down. It's easy to sail,
even for us relative newcomers to sailing and the fact that General Boats
only makes this one boat means you have a manufacturer who is totally
focused on this one boat, as opposed to seeing this as an entry level boat
that they hope to graduate you out of in short order. And this list is an
invaluable resource for any question you might have. All of these were the
reasons I bought my R-22 and I have never ever second-guessed my decision.
I've only had that decision reinforced year after year by everyone on this
list and Stan'!
s involvement every step of the way. How many other boat manufacturers
make it so easy to talk directly to the guy in charge whenever you want.
Take a visit down to Edenton and see for yourself. It is well worth your
time and you can probably even pick out the boat that Stan will recycle for
you (at least, that's how it worked when I went down there). You can even
stay for free at the factory in their "suite." I couldn't recommend the
boat more highly.
Mark Putnam
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Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 8:43 pm
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Cathy: A great boat and a great recreational investment. We had our first
R22
for over 11 years and recovered 90% of our initial outlay. We did spend
money
keeping the boat in great shape. Invested in new sails and replaced other
gear
as necessary. We found the boat to more than meet our expectations. Our
two
kids (near adults) when we picked up the boat and two of our grandchildren
pretty much learned to sail on the R22. Stan at General Boats will work
with
you on a re-cycled boat where you cannot go wrong.
We moved to a larger cruising boat for five years after retirement and are
now
back on an R22. Having a ball sailing in shallow Florida waters.
Bob
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Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 6:55:15 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike and have
looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s weren't
well built and haven't held up through time.
We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it has the
amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
sleeping quarters for three small people.
We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think 2'-3' deep
water, miles wide.
My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about the
Rhodes 22.
Cathy
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:58:08 -0400
From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
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Cathy,
I'm real cheap and didn't want to spend a lot of money on my first boat.
The Rhodes wasn't the cheapest boat I considered but it was far and away the
best value. If you do a true side-by-side comparison you'll see that you
get much more for your money compared to a less expensive boat.
Good luck!
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
Kent Island, MD
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Sent: Tue 3/16/2010 6:55 PM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike and have
looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s weren't
well built and haven't held up through time.
We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it has the
amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
sleeping quarters for three small people.
We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think 2'-3' deep
water, miles wide.
My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about the
Rhodes 22.
Cathy
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:02:58 -0400
From: "Linda Scott" <lscott02 at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
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Cathy,
We've actually bought two Rhodes from Stan--a used one a couple of years ago
and a new one for 2010. I think there are several boats besides a Rhodes
that will do what you've specified, but there's not another that has the
features that we've found to be particularly useful: the flared hull that
keeps the boat dry and provides seating on the high side of the boat, the
cockpit that's bigger than any other in its class, the pop top that lets you
actually walk around while you're sailing and the IMF main that will get you
going and then back in quickly and simply.
I guess the only reason that no other boats, besides racing dinghies, have
flared hulls is expense. I think it's a reason all by itself to buy a
Rhodes. Since we only use ours as a daysailer, we've not ordered some of
Stan's many options, and this may be a way to keep your cost down. Good
luck.
Steve & Linda.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:55 PM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a Rhodes 22
We lost our Gulf Coast 23 to a marauding tree during Hurricane Ike and have
looked (fruitlessly) for a replacement since. Apparently the GC 23s weren't
well built and haven't held up through time.
We haven't seen a Rhodes 22 in the flesh but it looks as though it has the
amenities we consider non-negotiable; enclosed head, shallow draft and
sleeping quarters for three small people.
We're on the Texas Gulf Coast and we sail bays and bayous. Think 2'-3' deep
water, miles wide.
My husband is having sticker shock. Please tell me good things about the
Rhodes 22.
Cathy
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:03:06 -0400
From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carrier Landings
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Ben,
Best Christmas card that I've ever seen--easy to see why you're proud!
Lee
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Sent: Tue 3/16/2010 5:43 PM
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Gregg and Folks,
I have mentioned before that my oldest boy is a Navy F/A 18 pilot
currently on active duty. He is now deployed
To the North Arabian Sea and Gulf of Oman aboard the USS Dwight D
Eisenhower, a Nimitz-class nulear powered aircraft carrier.
The US has 11 carriers (10 Nimitz class and one other, the Enterprise
Ben's squadron is VFA-83, the "Rampagers",
and they are flying close air support and recon missions over
Afghanistan which requires launching from the "boat", flying
7 hrs (round trip) usually requiring three mid-air refuelings in all
types of weather, and landing at night on the carrier. As a Lieutenant
Commander
He is also the Maintenance Dept Head and responsible for supervising
that group of officers and enlisted people. On his last deployment he
Served as Air Wing "Paddles", the officer in charge of the people who
are on deck bringing the planes in for final approach (who are all
active pilots and take their turn flying missions when not on deck
"waving"). The carrier has about 5000 people aboard between the Air Wing
personnel and the Ship's Company. I got to go aboard and watch flight
operations last year on a ride between Jacksonville and Norfolk and it
was the thrill of a lifetime.
Attached is (I hope) his Christmas Card from his last deployment. As you
can tell from my going on and on I am a very proud father.
Ben was commissioned through the NROTC program at Duke (which also lead
to my commission in 1970 and my Dad's commission in 1944). It paid a
full tuition scholarship for Ben's education and if anybody has a son
(or daughter) interested in a military officer's career give me a shout
and I can give you more information. Thanks for the video, and the
chance to brag about my boy.
BenCittadino
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:11:17 -0700
From: "Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Earthquake survival 'TRIANGLE OF
LIFE'
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You know, It seemed reasonable but I almost always vet anything before
sending it on, but this time it was an afterthought, thanks! Sounds like
the guy is a scum bag.
Chris da Greek.
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Chris G,
I hate to rain on your parade, but
:http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/triangle.asp
Rummy
In a message dated 3/15/2010 9:35:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
napoli68 at charter.net writes:
Doug Copp
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