[Rhodes22-list] Cotter pins vs. rings

Mary Lou Troy mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Fri May 7 22:55:47 EDT 2010


Kathy,
I just wrap the rigging tape around the chainplate below the 
turnbuckle, building up enough thickness so the sheet cannot wedge 
itself in there. I do try to remember to remove it at the end of the season.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD



At 09:39 PM 5/7/2010, you wrote:
>Mathew,
>
>I use a combination of all of the above and have found it necessary 
>to do so. I use the cotter rings, check them before every sail since 
>we have had them work there way out even with the covers. We also 
>put stainless steel wire through the turnbuckle screw and around the 
>outside, because we have also had them loosen. I love the PVC covers 
>with the cap as Mary Lou described. My sheets still get caught at 
>the bottom of the covers at the chain plate too. Would love to know 
>where the rigging tape goes to prevent that, Can't picture it.
>
>Kathy
>
>
>---- Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is all great stuff.  Keep it coming, everyone.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Porter
> >
> > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Matthew,
> > > The tubes are pvc wide enough in diameter to slide down over the
> > > turnbuckle and chainplate. Ours has a cap with a hole in it for the
> > > shroud. We only have them on the shrouds. They do help keep the sheet
> > > from snagging but I also use rigging tape because on ours the sheet
> > > will sometimes lift the cover and wedge itself between the bottom of
> > > the turnbuckle and the chainplate cover.
> > >
> > > I've always heard that plastic stay covers are not a good idea
> > > because they encourage crevice corrosion. The loose tubes that we are
> > > talking about don't do that.
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > > Rock Hall, MD
> > >
> > >
> > > At 02:45 PM 5/7/2010, you wrote:
> > > >Chris,
> > > >
> > > >So the tube covers the whole assembly, rather than just a 
> covering for the
> > > >shroud?  That's a neat idea.
> > > >
> > > >I'm beginning to find that there are so many things that I 
> don't even know
> > > >that I don't even know.  But I guess that's half the fun.
> > > >
> > > >Porter
> > > >
> > > >On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I use the expensive key ring style then tape it and have a plastic
> > > > > tube that slides over the whole assembly.  Stays in place all season.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris Cowie
> > > > > Cowie Associates PC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 7, 2010, at 1:38 PM, "Matthew Porter"
> > > > > <matthewporter27 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This may be a question more appropriate for those of you who leave
> > > the
> > > > > > standing rigging, well, standing, but I'd like to know what you use
> > > to
> > > > > > secure the clevis pins on your boats.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a bit of backstory, you should know that I've recently inherited
> > > > > > (pre-death) the Rhodes from my uncle, a lifelong 
> sailor.  My sailing
> > > > > > experience is limited to a handful of daysails, but the Admiral in
> > > > > > my life
> > > > > > has considerably more time on the water (she never lets me forget
> > > > > > that she
> > > > > > attended St. Mary's College of Maryland, where, to hear 
> her tell it,
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > hand out ASA certifications with every diploma).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My uncle, who is incredibly accident prone, is of the opinion that
> > > the
> > > > > > "cotter rings" (what I call "expensive stainless key chains") tend
> > > > > > to come
> > > > > > loose, and basic cotter pins are more secure.  My (limited)
> > > > > > impression is
> > > > > > that while the cotter pins may be more secure, they make it more
> > > > > > difficult
> > > > > > to take out a pin if the need should arise.  It would seem that the
> > > > > > rings
> > > > > > would make sense if you are trailering your boat quite a bit, but
> > > > > > we'll be
> > > > > > in a slip for the season.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd love to hear your opinions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Porter
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