[Rhodes22-list] Jib lines without roller question

[Leland]

Hank,

That's correct.  I haven't seen them on the cabin top but have on the deck. 
Don't know if Stan puts them on or if it's a modification by previous
owners.  Here's a picture of Frank's boat that I think is a 2010:

http://old.nabble.com/file/p28658665/Frank%2527s%2BBoat.jpg
Frank%27s+Boat.jpg 

Looks like Stan installed an eye on the side of the cabin but it only has
the standard tracks for running the sheets outside of the shrouds.

I had thought about adding tracks on the deck or cabin side (or even another
eye more forward).  It would improve sail shape some but when you think
about how little wiggle room you have between the shrouds it probably
wouldn't add significant speed.  A slight adjustment to sail size or
point-of-sail works fine for me.

Lee


If I remember right, when Stan sets up a boat for inner sheets, he puts a
short track on (near?) the cabin top for the stays to run through.  You
don't have this second track?

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

>
> Hank,
>
> Uh oh.  I drew 'em as I do 'em.
>
> I slide the block to change the sail shape only when I run the sheets
> outside of the shrouds.
>
> When running the sheet across the deck between the inner and outer shrouds
> it goes through the eye on the side of the cabin.  Initially I then ran it
> through the cam cleat on the side of the cabin but realized it could be
> easily adjusted (little friction from the angle) if ran the sheet directly
> back to the block if it were positioned near the winch.  I don't think I'd
> get much adjustment from sliding the block forward because the outer
> shroud
> would get in the way.
>
> When running the sheets across the cabin top I use the eye and cam cleat
> up
> on top.  The inner shroud would definitely get in the way if I ran the
> sheet
> to the block even if I slid it all the way aft.
>
> Are you thinking about your liveaboard yacht again?
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hank-5 wrote:
> >
> > Lee,
> >
> > Please tell me that you do not run your inner sheets through the eyes
> like
> > you have it drawn.  The sheets should always go from the clew of the
> sail
> > to
> > the block on the sliding track and then to the winch.  Running it
> through
> > anything else changes the angle of pull on the sail and will effect sail
> > shape.  Proper adjustment of the angle of the sheet should be done by
> > sliding the block forward or aft on the track based upon the size of the
> > headsail.
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Greg,
> >>
> >> Nice picture by the way.  Looks kind of scary.
> >>
> >> Don't know if this picture will help:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28656603/At%2BEase%2B-%2BSheet%2BTracks.JPG
> >> At+Ease+-+Sheet+Tracks.JPG
> >>
> >> The actual blue sheet runs loosely outside the outer shroud (side
> stay).
> >> I
> >> drew red sheets running through the other tracks as Bob mentioned.
> >> Longer
> >> PVC over the stays is the way to go.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >>
> >> Lee
> >> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> >> Kent Island, MD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> It is a true working jib (says it right on it, lol), I also have a
> Genny,
> >> and a storm jib. I already have the blocks on the rail chainplate. I
> may
> >> take your suggestion and install longer PVC over the stays. I have 18"
> >> ones
> >> I use and wanted a short length for aesthetics and to easily inspect
> the
> >> turnbuckles. The line I use is climbing rope from REI and has a high
> >> abrasive resistance, I may just live with it for now.
> >> Thanks for the reply and suggestions.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.rei.com/product/716227 REI Link
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