[Rhodes22-list] Bottom Paint

Tue Nov 9 20:51:02 EST 2010

Guys,

I have previously posted my experience on this, recommending that a professional should look at the bottom and determine if sealer was applied before the bottom paint.  If not, have a professional shop apply adequate e2000 or equivalent, then multiple coats of the antifouling.  I suspect many of our boats never had the sealer/barrier coat applied, just asking for a blistering problem, especially on the older boats.  After the professional job is done, just reapply bottom paint yourself as necessary.  Mary Jane was done in '07 by an expert for about $1500.  I can attest to at least one factory job that chipped bottom paint easily with the edge of my fingerrnail.  I have not had a problem, and I enjoy peace of mind that I will not.

On a new boat an unpainted hull is faster, no question, but are many of us into racing?  I would put bottom paint on any new boat unless it is only dsy-sailed.  If the boat is older, it has already been painted, probably should continue to be painted.  In Florida the hull will begin to be coated with marine life in about a week.  Do you really want to clean the bottom?

I enjoyed meeting three of our esteemed skippers on a DC trip a few weeks ago, thanks for the valuable time together!

This is just my experience, hopefully to your benefit.

Art
Canvas Guy and Sailor
-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 1:48 PM
>To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom Paint
>
>
>So if the boat already has bottom paint that has faded and scratched etc, what would be the appropriate action. I need new bottom ????? something, don't think I really want to sand down to raw fiberglass and even if I did, there would need to be something applied . The hull was painted several years ago. Speed is not the issue, not into racing and I will spend as much time on the water as the day allows......so what????
> 
>Charles Nieman
>S/V Blue Feather
>1984 R 22
> 
>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:31:20 +0000
>> From: peterklappert at comcast.net
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom Paint
>> 
>> 
>> This is simply FYI:
>> 
>> I was recently in Edenton looking at the current crop of recyclable R22s and discussing options with Stan. Since I'll be keeping my boat on a lift, I said that (in view of the recent list discussions of bottom paint) I wanted to be sure I got the appropriate paint. Stan suggested that if the boat will only be in the water for daysails, weekending and occasional one or two week cruises, I didn't need bottom paint at all--even in Florida. This was news to me, because all my boating has been with boats kept on moorings or at docks. Stan also said the boat will be faster without bottom paint. I mentioned this to a neighbor who was a blue-water sailor for years & very into racing: he agrees with Stan.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> Washington, DC 20010 
>> Apollo Beach, FL 33572
>> 
>> 
>> >>>>o<<<<
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 8, 2010 11:11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom Paint
>> 
>> Hi Todd,
>> 
>> Thanks for a link to a relatively instructive set of videos. As far as "a 
>> great series of videos" goes, there's nothing great about bottom painting, 
>> unless you can find someone else to do it for you.
>> 
>> On thing the videos neglect to explain is that many yards will not allow 
>> customers to paint due to DEC & EPA regulations. I am not sure if this is a 
>> real issue or it is being used to generate revenue for the yards.
>> 
>> I paint on the trailer with a system to lift the hull several inches above 
>> the bunks. I used Pettit ACP50 for years and switched to WM CPP blue (made 
>> by Pettit for WM, similar to Petitt Ultima SSA) several seasons ago due to 
>> price. It works very well in LI Sound, although it is a single season 
>> product. The Pettit ACP50 has been replaced by the Pettit Horizons 
>> Multi-season paint. Since I launch once a season, CPP is fine. If I were 
>> trailer sailing, I would go back to Horizons Multi-season paint. The major 
>> problem with a single season paint like CPP when trailering is that it 
>> becomes too hard for adequate ablative action if allowed to dry for more 
>> than 2 weeks while the Horizons stays soft.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
>> From: <sprocket80 at mail.com> Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:10 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I do not know if this link has been posted in the past but West Marine has 
>> > a great series of videos on the subject.
>> >
>> > http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/WestAdvisorView?langId=-1&storeId=11151&catalogId=10001&page=Bottom-Paint
>> >
>> > Todd T.
>> >
>> >
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