[Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz
KUHN, LELAND
LKUHN at cnmc.org
Fri Nov 19 14:54:48 EST 2010
Mike,
I think Charles was kidding. I'm not sure they still sell metal gas
cans.
Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D.
Weisner
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 2:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz
Charles,
What's wrong with plastic (HDPE, High-density polyethylene) gas tanks?
As long as they are DOT certified, they should meet all requirements,
for recreational boating (maybe not for OSHA but I don't bring my R22 to
jobsites). Many are additionally CARB, EPA and ABYC certified. It
should be noted that the EPA regs have just become much more stringent:
Currently EPA and CARB are developing standards related to permeation
rates for above deck - portable / permanent fuel tanks, fuel hoses and
primer bulbs. These standards become law by 2011.
The time lines for "low perm" tanks and accessories are:
a.. Fuel Hoses; Jan 1,2009. Hoses must be certified in accordance
with CP-510 ( Perm rate equal or less than 15 g/ m2/day)
b.. Self Sealing Cap (Portables); Jan 1, 2010. Cap must be certified
in accordance with CP-510
c.. Primer Bulb and Marine Tank (Portable and Topside); Jan 1, 2011.
(Perm Rate for Primer Bulb equal or less than 15 g/ m2/day) (Perm Rate
for Marine Tank equal or less than 1.5 g/ m2/day) TP511 & TP512
The following websites can be used for additional information on the
upcoming regulations: www.arb.ca.gov/omt/omt.htm and
www.epa.gov/otaq/marine.htm
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: "Charles Nieman" Friday, November 19, 2010 12:05 PM
>
> Wait a minute here .... yall are busting my chops over a gas tank in
the laz and you are useing plastic gas containers???? I hate to tell you
this, but those do not meet OSHA regulations .... at least I have a
metal gas can
>
> C
>
>> From: benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:45:35 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz
>>
>> That sounds like a good idea.
>>
>> Under the seat, there's no need for a fuel gauge. In the day, I can
tell
>> perfectly level where the line is in the tank just by looking at the
side of
>> the tank.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
>> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 09:11
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz
>>
>> Rummy,
>>
>> Ever open your laz on a sunny day? It can get very hot in there.
>>
>> I mounted an eye bolt under my bench. A bungee cord through the tank
handle
>> and hooked to the bolt keeps the gas tank from sliding out on a
severe heel
>> to starboard. And I can still slide the tank out enough to see the
fuel
>> gauge. (Easier than trying to see it leaning into the dark laz.)
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:20 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Advantage to storing in the lazz is that it is out of sight,
lockable and
>> > the lazz has loops in it to actually tie the tank in place. Under
the seat
>> > (it's current location) allows it to come flying out when healed
over. I
>> > haven't found a good way to tie it down yet under the seat. Also,
out of
>> > the
>> > sun so gas tank lasts longer. No UV exposure. In my boat there is
no
>> > connection between the lazz and any other part of the boat. I know
>> because
>> > I have
>> > crawled around inside mine several times.
>> >
>> > Rummy
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 11/18/2010 7:01:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> > mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
>> >
>> > I still want to know what the tremendous advantage of storing
gasoline in
>> > the laz is!
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> > Nissequogue River, NY
>> >
>> > From: "Hank" Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:49 PM
>> > > Cell phone electricity is not an issue. That has been tested and
>> proved
>> > > to
>> > > not be a threat, both by mythbusters and by real scientists.
>> > >
>> > > Hank
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:44 PM, BenCittadino
>> > > <bencittadino at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> My only thoughts are static electricity and cell phone
electricity. (
>> > >> again,
>> > >> I see, agreeing w/ MikeW ).
>> > >>
>> > >> Of course I do have the electric lift for my Y9.9, and wiring
for my
>> > >> depth
>> > >> sounder transducer, all routed through the laz.
>> > >>
>> > >> Mike, we did what we could do and re-elected Rush Holt D-NJ(12)
in my
>> > >> district. I'm actually going to enjoy watching the Teapublicans
learn
>> > to
>> > >> do
>> > >> more than sulk in the corner and say "No".
>> > >>
>> > >> Cuomo for President 2012! First Italian-American.
>> > >>
>> > >> BenC
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Ben Schultz wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I've sailed with Rummy. It doesn't last long enough to store.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Nov 18, 2010, at 16:43, "Chris Cowie"
<ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>> > >
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Rummy:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Where do you store your Rum?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Christopher P. Cowie
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
>> > >> >> Suite 300
>> > >> >> Washington, DC 20007
>> > >> >> 202.342.2711
>> > >> >> 202.342.2691 fax
>> > >> >> 202.270.1470 mobile
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> cowieassociates.com
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> > >> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>> > >> >> R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:56 PM
>> > >> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in laz
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Ben,
>> > >> >> As all the old timers know, this is an old, rehashed topic
that
>> > Benny
>> > >> >> brought up just to get the list talking again. I certainly
>> > understand
>> > >> >> everyone's
>> > >> >> concerns, but tell me, where's the source of ignition in the
lazz?
>> > I
>> > >> >> still
>> > >> >> maintain that there is plenty of ventilation, even after
looking at
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> CC
>> > >> >> regulations.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Rummy
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> In a message dated 11/18/2010 2:50:02 P.M. Eastern Standard
Time,
>> > >> >> bencittadino at gmail.com writes:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Rummy and Charles and Whoever;
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I am very apart from Mike politically. However, let me say
this as
>> > >> >> gently
>> > >> >> as
>> > >> >> I can. GET THOSE FREAKING GAS CANS OUT OF THE LAZARETTE THIS
VERY
>> > >> >> MINUTE!!!!
>> > >> >> Are you suicidal? Are you just so stubborn that you are
willing to
>> > >> >> die
>> > >> >> rather than be reasonable? Whether the laz is "air tight" or
>> > "water
>> > >> >> tight"
>> > >> >> means nothing. It is incredibly dangerous to store gasoline
in
>> that
>> > >> >> small
>> > >> >> enclosed space. Get it the heck out of there. You can only
play
>> > >> >> "russian
>> > >> >> roulette" for so long before you get a bullet in the head.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> And, yes, the parents of that little girl who exploited her
by
>> > letting
>> > >> >> her
>> > >> >> sail around the world belong in jail, too!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> your devoted colleague,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> BenC
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Ben Schultz wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Right on. Mission accomplished. When I get bored again, I'll
>> > have
>> > >> >> to
>> > >> >> go
>> > >> >>> back a decade and find another topic that used to get us
fired
>> up!
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> > >> >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Michael
>> > D.
>> > >> >>> Weisner
>> > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47
>> > >> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > >> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in laz
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Hey Rummy,
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Ben was bored so he threw a lit match into a tank of gas.
>> Charles
>> > >> >> took
>> > >> >>> the
>> > >> >>> bait. Da list responds. You ... nevermind. Ben, be careful
>> > what
>> > >> >> you
>> > >> >>> wish
>> > >> >>> for.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> I prefer to live to sail another day. I have even donned a
life
>> > >> >>> vest
>> > >> >> in
>> > >> >>> rough seas, lately. I must be growing up or something. It is
>> > truly
>> > >> >> a
>> > >> >>> terrible thing, this getting older business.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Sail safe and make sure that your passengers are of a like
mind.
>> > >> >> Their
>> > >> >>> lives are in your hands.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Mike
>> > >> >>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> > >> >>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010
11:35 AM
>> > >> >>>> Mike,
>> > >> >>>> And how long have you been a part of this list? Do you
really
>> > >> >>>> expect
>> > >> >> me
>> > >> >>>> to
>> > >> >>>> live my other people's rules? Ain't happening. I'm smarter
than
>> > the
>> > >> >> rest
>> > >> >>>> of
>> > >> >>>> the planet. Is it noon yet? Anywhere?
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Rummy
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> In a message dated 11/18/2010 11:26:25 A.M. Eastern
Standard
>> > Time,
>> > >> >>>> mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Rummy,
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Your mileage not withstanding, your practice constitutes an
>> > unsafe
>> > >> >>>> condition. Please review the USCG site
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> >
http://www.uscgboating.org/regulations/boatbuilder_s_handbook/vent_partg
>> > >> >> .asp
>> > >> >>> x
>> > >> >>>> with particular attention to the
>> > >> >>>> following portion:
>> > >> >>>> Portable Fuel Tanks
>> > >> >>>> Compartments used to store vented portable fuel tanks or
>> > >> >>>> containers
>> > >> >> are
>> > >> >>>> required to be equipped with natural ventilation.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Cockpit seat lockers in auxiliary sailboats are often used
as
>> fuel
>> > >> >> tank
>> > >> >>>> compartments for portable outboard motor fuel tanks. If
this
>> fuel
>> > >> >> tank
>> > >> >>>> vents
>> > >> >>>> into the locker, then natural ventilation of this locker is
>> > >> >> required.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Since fuel vapors seek the lowest point of any compartment,
>> > >> >> gasoline
>> > >> >>>> vapors should be considered when designing and constructing
a
>> > >> >>>> compartment
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>> that
>> > >> >>>> will contain a fuel tank or container that vents into a
>> > >> >> compartment.
>> > >> >> Any
>> > >> >>>> openings in or near the bottom of the compartment could
permit
>> > >> >> explosive
>> > >> >>>> vapors to flow into the bilge of the boat where an ignition
>> > source
>> > >> >> might
>> > >> >>>> ignite
>> > >> >>>> the vapors.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> The "natural ventilation" must consist of:
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> (1) supply opening(s) or duct(s) from the atmosphere or
from a
>> > >> >>>> ventilated compartment or from a compartment that is
ventilated
>> > >> >>>> to the atmosphere;
>> > >> >>>> and
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> (2) exhaust opening(s) into another ventilated compartment
or
>> > >> >> exhaust
>> > >> >>>> duct(s) to the atmosphere.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Each supply opening must be located on the exterior surface
of
>> > the
>> > >> >> boat:
>> > >> >>>> "Open to the atmosphere" means a compartment that has at
least
>> > 15
>> > >> >> square
>> > >> >>>> inches of open area directly exposed to the atmosphere for
>> each
>> > >> >> cubic
>> > >> >>>> foot
>> > >> >>>> of net compartment volume. The underseat space meets this
>> > >> >> requirement
>> > >> >>>> while
>> > >> >>>> the laz space has insufficient ventilation and connects
with
>> the
>> > >> >> cabin
>> > >> >>>> interior and bilge through wiring channels. These
ventilation
>> > >> >>>> requirements
>> > >> >>>> also apply to batteries that emit hydrogen gas during
charging
>> > >> >> (solar
>> > >> >> or
>> > >> >>>> otherwise) in confined spaces.
>> > >> >>>> For those who are interested, the site also provides links
to
>> > pdfs
>> > >> >> of
>> > >> >>>> the
>> > >> >>>> Boatbuilder's Handbook for download.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> A simpler version entitled "Safety Standards for Backyard
Boat
>> > >> >> Builders"
>> > >> >>>> which I have found very useful over the years is available
>> > at:
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> >
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/backyardb
>> > >> >> oatb
>> > >> >>>> uilders.pdf
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Please err on the side of safety. Don't play around with
>> lives.
>> > >> >> Many
>> > >> >>>> of
>> > >> >>>> these rules were established after an avoidable accident.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Mike
>> > >> >>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> > >> >>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010
10:15
>> > AM
>> > >> >>>>> Charles,
>> > >> >>>>> Relax. I kept my fuel tank in the lazzerette for almost
>> twenty
>> > >> >> years.
>> > >> >> I
>> > >> >>>>> moved it only after I installed the electric motor lift
which
>> > >> >> places
>> > >> >> an
>> > >> >>>>> electric motor (sparks) in the lazz. The hatch cover for
the
>> > >> >>>>> lazz
>> > >> >> is
>> > >> >>>> not air
>> > >> >>>>> tight and if you look under both seats you will see large
>> > >> >> openings
>> > >> >>>> which
>> > >> >>>>> provide adequate ventilation. People on the list were
worried
>> > >> >> that I
>> > >> >>>> was going to
>> > >> >>>>> blow myself up, but as you can see, I'm still intact. I
used
>> > to
>> > >> >> drink
>> > >> >>>> like
>> > >> >>>>> crazy and smoked cigars and cigarettes.......all at the
same
>> > >> >>>>> time
>> > >> >> and
>> > >> >>>>> never had a problem with gas fumes.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Rummy
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:08:19 A.M. Eastern
Standard
>> > Time,
>> > >> >>>>> blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> I sail in teh suburbs of Dallas, Texas ..... I think I am
the
>> > >> >> only
>> > >> >>>> Rhodie
>> > >> >>>>> in these parts so you probably won't even hear the
>> > >> >> explosion......I
>> > >> >>>> do't
>> > >> >>>>> have propane on the boat, I am guessing that would be for
a
>> > >> >> stove? I
>> > >> >>>> don't
>> > >> >>>>> have one of those either.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Thanks for the education, I will gfive some thought to
moving
>> > the
>> > >> >>>>> tank.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Charles
>> > >> >>>>> s/v Blue Feather
>> > >> >>>>> 84 R 22 ... recycled 96
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
>> > >> >>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> > >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:53:59 -0500
>> > >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction - Now gas
tank
>> in
>> > >> >> laz
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> It depends on how far away from here you sail your Rhodes
>> > ...
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> Basically, fuel vapors that accumulate can be fairly
>> > explosive.
>> > >> >> Since
>> > >> >>>>> the
>> > >> >>>>>> laz is not ventilated, it is not a great place to store
>> > >> >> gasoline. I
>> > >> >>>> have
>> > >> >>>>>> always stored a 6 gal tank under the cockpit seat without
a
>> > >> >> problem
>> > >> >>>>> where at
>> > >> >>>>>> least the fumes (lighter than air) would not be trapped.
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> BTW, where do you store your propane (heavier than air)?
>> > Please
>> > >> >> do
>> > >> >>>>>> not
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> store it in the cabin.
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> Where do you sail,again?
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> Mike
>> > >> >>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> > >> >>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >>>>>> From: "Charles Nieman" <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>> > >> >>>>>> To: "Rhodes List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > >> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:42 AM
>> > >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> I don't know about all that political stuff ..... but
what's
>> > >> >> this
>> > >> >>>>> about
>> > >> >>>>>>> keeping your gas tank in tha lazerette????? That is
where I
>> > >> >> have
>> > >> >>>>> always
>> > >> >>>>>>> kept mine .... is this a problem????
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> Charles
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> From: benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
>> > >> >>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:40:39 -0600
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> We are overdue for some angry -- or at least passionate
>> > >> >> rants.
>> > >> >>>>> Thoughts
>> > >> >>>>>>>> on
>> > >> >>>>>>>> midterm elections? Sarah Palin's book tour? Did
dinosaurs
>> > >> >> really
>> > >> >>>>> exist?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Do you prefer Bicardi to Mount Gay? Isn't anyone at
least
>> > >> >> keeping
>> > >> >>>>> their
>> > >> >>>>>>>> gas
>> > >> >>>>>>>> tank in the lazerette?
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Watching and waiting from BR,
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Ben
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> > >> >>>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
Of
>> > >> >> Geoff
>> > >> >>>> Farrell
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:39
>> > >> >>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Thank God... on both counts.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:28 PM,
<R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>> > >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Mike.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Welcome back to the list. A while back we had to have
a
>> > >> >>>> separation
>> > >> >>>>> of
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> sailing from politics. The political people left the
list
>> > >> >> and
>> > >> >>>>> started
>> > >> >>>>>>>> their
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> own
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> social network list. The sailors and most of the
drunks
>> > are
>> > >> >>>>>> still
>> > >> >>>>> here.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Rummy
>> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> In a message dated 11/16/2010 3:07:58 P.M. Eastern
>> > >> >> Standard
>> > >> >>>>>> Time,
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> michael.4591 at gmail.com writes:
>> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> By way of a reintroduction I am Mike Corley, a loyal
>> > >> >> Rhodes
>> > >> >>>> owner
>> > >> >>>>> since
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> 1996. I have not been active on the list in several
>> > years.
>> > >> >> It
>> > >> >> is
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> definitely a lot quieter now than it used to be. Sort
of
>> > >> >> miss
>> > >> >>>>>>>> the
>> > >> >>>>>>>> barroom
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> mentality of the old list.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> I have owned two Rhodes, the first was a new 96 model
I
>> > >> >> bought
>> > >> >>>> from
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Stan and then after returning from Europe Stan made me
a
>> > >> >> great
>> > >> >>>> deal
>> > >> >>>>> and
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> I
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> traded it in on a slightly used and upgraded 99 Rhodes
in
>> > >> >> 2000,
>> > >> >>>> but
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> that
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> is
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> another story. I like to tell people that I liked the
>> boat
>> > >> >> so
>> > >> >>>> much I
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> bought
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> it twice. I still take the boat back to GB in Edenton,
NC
>> > >> >> when
>> > >> >>>>>> it
>> > >> >>>>> needs
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> work which is infrequently. Stan and GB is the most
honest
>> > >> >>>> business
>> > >> >>>>> I
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> have
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> ever dealt with and they still do good work!
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> I just recently retired from the Army after 30 years
of
>> > >> >> service.
>> > >> >>>> I
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> retired from Fort Monroe, Va and now live in
Smithfield,
>> > Va
>> > >> >> at
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> the
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> intersection of the Pagan and James Rivers. I keep my
>> boat
>> > >> >> at
>> > >> >>>>>> the
>> > >> >>>>> Old
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Point
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Comfort Marina at Ft Monroe in Hampton, Va which is
>> about
>> > >> >> 22
>> > >> >>>> miles
>> > >> >>>>> from
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Smithfield. My children are grown now so I primarily
>> > >> >> singlehand
>> > >> >>>>> which
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> is
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> easy to do in a Rhodes. I have enjoyed sailing the
>> > >> >> Southern
>> > >> >>>>> Chesapeake
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> for
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> the last four years. Previously I have sailed my
Rhodes
>> > >> >> out
>> > >> >> of
>> > >> >>>>> Middle
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> River
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> near Baltimore, Newbern, NC on the Neuse river, and
>> > >> >> Washington
>> > >> >>>> DC
>> > >> >>>>> on
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> the
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Potomac River. As all of you will agree, the Rhodes is
a
>> > >> >> great
>> > >> >>>>> costal
>> > >> >>>>>>>> and
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> inland pocket cruiser!
>> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Mike Corley
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> S/V Ranger
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> 99 Rhodes
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Hampton Roads, Va
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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