[Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Sat Nov 20 07:04:16 EST 2010 

Chris,
You have just elevated yourself in my view. What a wonderful attention  
getter. I bet they paid attention the remainder of the semester. That is truly  
outstanding
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 11/20/2010 1:05:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
napoli68 at charter.net writes:

Rummy  said " Burning alcohol is a sin"

But it can also be entertaining and  educational.  One of my demo 
experiments
is to take a 5 gallon water  cooler jug and put in about a teaspoon (8ml) of
methyl alcohol in the jug  and shake it up.  The alcohol vaporizes and the
jug looks empty.   I do this before the kids come in and place a Styrofoam
cup upside down on  the top.  I announce my new burp energy converter
invention and get a  kid to come up and burp in the jug.  I claim that burps
have huge  energy content.  The skeptics want me to prove it. When I ask how
I  can do it, the solution to most any question in 8th grade science is to
set  it on fire.  I make a small hole in the inverted cup and drop a  match
in; the kids expect nothing will happen.  Wrong!  It goes  off with a huge
roar, a 3 foot tongue of blue flame blasts out, and if I  have the ratio
right, I usually knock out a ceiling tile.  Oh yeah,  the kids who are 
always
leaning back on two legs of their chairs, they fall  over. Priceless. 

Mad Scientist & sailor
Chris  G

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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:24  AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] heater in  the cabin

Mike,
Burning alcohol is a sin.

Rummy


In  a message dated 11/19/2010 8:48:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:

Chris,

While the unit is  protected again spills, it does get  very hot!  I am not 
sure  that you can locate it in a safe place while  sailing.  If you  
wanted 
to 
use it to heat the cabin when not sailing,  be careful  to provide enough 
ventilation to remove byproducts of  combustion  such as CO and CO2.  At 
5200 
BTU, you should be able to   leave the pop-top and the door open and still 
be 
warm.

I found  a  manual for the heater at   
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/catalog/heatmate%205200.pdf.

Rummy,   do you have any experience burning alcohol?


Mike
s/v  Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY



From:  "Chris Cowie"   Friday, November 19, 2010 8:46 AM
> What do we  think about using a  portable heater such as the HeatMate 5200
> on  the Rhodes 22?  Does  the pop top enclosure offer enough  ventilation
> to replenish oxygen  used by the alcohol burner or is  additional
> ventilation  required?  While additional  ventilation is safer it sort of
>  defeats the effect of the  heater?
>
>
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>   http://www.soundingsonline.com/boat-shop/new-gear/247092-heatmate-5200-p
>   ortable-alcohol-heater
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>   Christopher P. Cowie
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> 4400  MacArthur  Blvd, NW
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> From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>   [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Leland
>  Sent:  Friday, November 19, 2010 7:59 AM
> To:   rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank  in  laz
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>  Firedogs,
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>  Safety first:
>
>   http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
>   http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
>
> Can't remember  if  methane is heavier than air.
>
>   Lee
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>
>
> Stephen Staum   wrote:
>>
>> BK,
>>
>> I too am  awfully  skeptical of gov. programs & rules. However, in  my
>> experience  as a pilot & sailor I have usually found  gov. safety
>>  regulations to be logical and founded in real  need based on  accident
>> experinces. In my opinion, the gas  storage venting  requirements make
>> good sense. An explosion  & fire on board are  the most difficult
>> emergencies a  mariner can face. Fatalities are  often the result. Why
>> would  anyone want that risk? Especially on a  Rhodes w lots of  vented
>> storage under the cockpit seats, the  question is a no  brainer.
>>
>> Just one man's   opinion.
>>
>> Stephen Staum
>> 87 R22, Carol   Lee
>> Needham, MA
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>> On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Bob   Keller
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