[Rhodes22-list] hull problems?

KUHN, LELAND LKUHN at cnmc.org
Thu Oct 14 10:03:14 EDT 2010 

Chris,

"I also make it a point to get out in extreme wind and sea conditions
during small craft warnings to keep the bottom in good shape."

It would also cause extreme clenching which would keep my bottom in good
shape too.

Lee  


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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cowie
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:09 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull problems?

My new boat came with a good coat of Trinidad petit last year and held
up well in the Chesapeake bay.  I hauled out and spent the winter on
jack stands.  Gave the bottom a light sanding and applied a new gallon
of the same Trinidad just before the spring launch.  I don't think the
Trinidad works as well for trailer sailing but it does work well for
seasonal protection in the water slip.  I also make it a point to get
out in extreme wind and sea conditions during small craft warnings to
keep the bottom in good shape.  Keeps the barnacles from growing under
my feet too.

Chris Cowie
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On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:07 PM, "elle" <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes...I had it pulled & repainted w/Trinidad as i keep it in the water
full time. 
> This past spring I had it hauled & washed...the Trinidad was good so I
had an ablative put on top of it in red, so when the black shows through
it will be time to repaint.
> elle
> 
> Beer is good....people are crazy
> 
> 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> 
> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull problems?
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:19 AM
> 
> 
> So elle...... did you have it repainted .... or are you dealing with
"fouling" ...... what is the "rest of the story????"
> 
> > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:37:24 -0700
> > From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull problems?
> >
> > I can affirm what jim has noted....my hull had Trinidad on it when
recycled, but having my engine installation etc done took several
months, so the Trinidad lost its antifouling capability.
> > elle
> >
> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/12/10, Jim Connolly <jbconnolly at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jim Connolly <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull problems?
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:04 AM
> >
> > This has nothing to do with the cracking question, but I don't think
Pettit Trinidad is recommended for trailer sailing.  You want a paint
described as "multi season" most of which are ablative (soft) paint.
Most hard paints lose antifouling ability when out of the water for an
extended period.
> >
> > Jim Connolly
> > s/v Inisheer
> > '85 recycled '03
> >
> >
> > Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > >I agree also. SS
> > >
> > >Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The cracks look like gelcoat crazing to me.  I agree with Rummy
on how
> > >> to deal with it.
> > >>
> > >> Hank
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> Hi folks,
> > >>> It's time again to work on the boat.  I'm hoping somebody can
help me
> > >>> with a couple of problems.  Take a look at pictures labeled 
> > >>> hull_x.jpg.
> > >>> I don't know a whole lot about bottom paint.  Stan says he used
Petit
> > >>> Trinidad on our boat which is a year 2000, recycled in 2008.  We

> > >>> trailer
> > >>> sail so the boat is on the trailer most of the time.  Are the 
> > >>> cracks in
> > >>> the pictures typical with bottom paint after a couple of years,
or is
> > >>> this due to blistering, or what??
> > >>> The cracks in hull_1.jpg bother me the most as it appears like
some 
> > >>> kind
> > >>> of layer has lifted just slightly.  I don't know how long the
hull 
> > >>> has
> > >>> been like this.  I only looked this year because we lost some
bottom
> > >>> paint on the keel from grounding on soft sand this spring.  At 
> > >>> first, I
> > >>> thought that the cracks in hull_1.jpg were the only ones, so I
looked
> > >>> inside the hull to see if I could see any damage inside.  I
pulled 
> > >>> off
> > >>> the cover to the water tank, then hauled out the water tank and
its
> > >>> floor.  I found no evidence of damage where the cracks were
located 
> > >>> but
> > >>> did find some blobs of rusty looking stuff on the
keel/centerboard
> > >>> structure. ??  Yep, they are magnetic.  Where did these  come 
> > >>> from?  See
> > >>> picture rust_blobs.jpg.  They seemed to be adhered to the keel
> > >>> structure.  Oh well, I was going to haul the centerboard this
winter
> > >>> anyway so I might as well tear up the floor to see what else I
find.
> > >>> One kind of "humorous" note was that on the inside face of the 
> > >>> bulkhead
> > >>> separating the head from the water tank was written in large 
> > >>> letters in
> > >>> pencil "DO NOT USE THIS PIECE".  It looked like an okay piece of

> > >>> ply to
> > >>> me.  The tabbing connecting the bulkhead to the hull was loose
but 
> > >>> Don
> > >>> Casey says one must expect this in any boat.
> > >>> What I mostly need is guidance on how best to deal with the
cracks on
> > >>> the hull, and where did the rust come from?  Hull is very dry by
the
> > >>> way.  We didn't do much on the water this year as it was so
blasted 
> > >>> hot.
> > >>> Joe
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