[Rhodes22-list] R22 vrs 26RK

Fri Oct 15 08:01:26 EDT 2010

Hem and Haw? Sounds to me like you have already made your decision.

Rummy

In a message dated 10/14/2010 8:41:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
peterklappert at comcast.net writes:

Mary  & Stephen 

Thanks to each of you. This message is really just a  marker to say I hope 
to reply more (or ask more) later.

I'm headed from  DC up to CT tomorrow (looks like I may be driving much of 
the way in a  northeaster) for the weekend. I'm also trying to get ready to 
drive back to FL  just as soon as the D C Regulatory Authority stops 
torturing me. So I can't be  expansive here.

Certainly with the wheel (which Hake tries to sell you)  there's no 
comparison vis-a-vis cockpit roominess, & I agree: that's where  you live on board. 
Also, Stan has invented many options that, as Stephen says,  can make the 
cockpit into cabin space.

Had a long phone conversation  last night with a former R22 owner who now 
has the 26RK, and he made the case  for the Rhodes (for me, not for him) in a 
forceful way. 

Over the last  40 years I've had many many close friends who were in their 
80s and 90s,  really vital, highly intelligent people, most of whom remained 
physically  strong & active. So I have a weakness there. I like Stan and 
Elton a great  deal, but I've been trying to not let that influence me. And 
quite aside from  that, it's my nature to research stuff a lot and hem & haw 
enroute to a  decision. I'm grateful for all the advice thus far and hope 
I'll get  more.

I expect to detour to Edenton (I've been to the factory once) on  my way to 
FL, to see what Stan has available for  recycling.

P

>>>>o<<<<

At the Poem Society a black-haired  man stands up to say
"You make me sick with all your talk about restraint  and mature talent!
Haven't you ever looked out the window at a painting by  Matisse,
Or did you always stay in hotels where there were too many  spiders
crawling on your visages?
Did you ever  glance inside a bottle of sparkling pop,
Or see a citizen split in two by  lightning?
I am afraid you have never smiled at the hibernation
Of bear  cubs except that you saw in it some deep relation
To human suffering and  wishes, oh what a bunch of crackpots!"
The black-haired man sits down, and  the others shoot arrows at him.
A blond man stands up and says,
"He's  right! Why should we be organized to defend the kingdom
Of dullness? There  are so many slimy people connected with poetry,
Too, and people who know  nothing about it!
I am not recommending that poets like each other and  organize to
fight them,
But simply that lightning  should strike them."
Then the assembled mediocrities shot arrows at the  blond-haired man.

from "Fresh Air," by Kenneth Koch

>>>>o<<<<

----- Original Message -----
From:  "Stephen Staum" <staum at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 5:22:56  PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 vrs 26RK

Peter,

I second  Mary's comments about cockpit comfort. The cockpit is where  
you  really "live" on a sailboat & the Rhodes is unbeatable. The dining   
table mount in the cockpit is another nice touch. My wife & I sit  at  
our mooring @ sunset w a full spread of hor'dourves &  cocktails. Our  
guests are always delighted! Also, the pop top &  canvas cover give you  
the standing headroom you desire (albeit small  & cozy).  We sleep  
either on the double in the salon or on  our king size cockpit bed  
under the stars, weather  depending.

I have become a real advocate of "kiss". Keep it simple...  Sail more -  
fix less.
I nixed the 12v water pump for a foot pump  (15 gal lasts all season @  
1 oz/pump), have the original rope &  pulley assisted engine lift,  
added a 5 HP Briggs & Stratton  outboard (air cooled & pull cord  
starter), added solar battery  charger this year & use hand held VHF &  
GPS. I feel I have  all the comforts of a bigger boat without the costs  
&  maintenance.

It sounds like you have a lot of single handed sailing in  your future.  
The Rhodes is very hard to beat when solo. The furling  sails &  
convenient jib & main sheet locations add up to an  easy & relaxing  
experience.

Good luck whatever you  choose.

Stephen Staum
87 R22, Carol Lee
Needham, MA

Sent  from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Mary Lou Troy  <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Bet the 26RK cockpit isn't  nearly as comfortable as the R22 even if
> it's comparable in size. The  open area under the cockpits, the angle
> of the cockpit sides and the  cabin wall make for the most comfortable
> seating of any boat I've ever  been on though I don't recall ever
> sitting in the cockpit of the 26RK  so I can't compare directly. The
> only criticism I've ever made of the  R22 cockpit is that for us
> short-legged folks there isn't a good way  to brace yourself when you
> are heeling way over without perching on  the edge of the seat. Small
> price to pay for the exceptionally  comfortable in every other way  
> cockpit.
>
> Mary  Lou
>
>
> At 12:42 PM 10/10/2010, you  wrote:
>
>> I think I looked into the Hunter 27 but didn't go  further because of
>> the problem of trailering. I don't know enough  about Hunters to have
>> an opinion, but I've met a few owners of  larger boats (30'-40') who
>> criticize Hunter for the quality of  their workmanship.
>>
>> At the last Annapolis show I  attended (2008) I looked over the
>> Hunter Edge, which they bill as  a motorsailer & which is obviously
>> designed to compete with  Macgregor. The Edge is water ballast, too.
>> Not a graceful-looking  boat. It too has a steep companionway to a
>> very generous and, in  the boat show version, nicely appointed cabin.
>> Lots of  headroom--might be just the boat for basketball players who
>> sail.  I don't expect to tow any water-skiers & so I don't feel a
>>  need for 75 hp. Also, you have to scramble over the cabin to get
>>  forward on deck, the price paid for so much room  below.
>>
>> BTW, the cockpit on the 26RK compares well with  the Rhodes,
>> particularly if you forego a wheel (classy as that  looks)& use a  
>> tiller.
>>
>>
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