[Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind

[Mary Lou Troy]

Hi Frone,
What are the winds and waves like where you sail. You're in NJ?

Best,
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD


At 11:37 PM 10/25/2010, you wrote:
>When Stan did a partial refit ('06) on our '94, we upgraded the 
>furling main to the battened version and substituted a 140 genoa for 
>the original 175 - the combination has proven to be a substantial 
>improvement over the original sail plan.  I usually furl / reef the 
>140 to about a 110 going upwind, except in very light air - the 
>extent of the reef leaves the shape pretty well intact - at least 
>far better than when we reefed the 175 down.   The other factor that 
>plays a part here is the height of the head of the genoa when reefed 
>to a 110- it is a much lower-aspect sail when a 175 is reefed than 
>when a 140 is reefed.  Overall, I much prefer the 140 to the original 175.
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>Frone Crawford
>s/v Sunday Morning
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:11 pm
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind
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>Rick,
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>A 175% Genny is quite large, upwind sailing can be very difficult to 
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>high winds, ergo we shorten the sail.  If that is the case, and we 
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>create a jib, even if it is a mite sloppy when furled, it can operate as a
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>self-tacking jib if we have the boat rigged.  If it is self tending it is
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>unnecessary to re-route the sheets, just connect the genny clew to the
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>'traveler'.  Does that make sense?
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>Art
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> >From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
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> >Sent: Oct 25, 2010 5:58 PM
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> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind
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> >Art,
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> >I don't get it.  What is" changing from a 175% config to beating upwind?"
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> >On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <
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> >czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> >> A few times, a self-tending jib rig has been brought up on the list.  It
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> >> really is simple to set up, regardless of the size of the 
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> >> facilitate changing from a 175% config to beating upwind.
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> >> Art
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> >> >From: Rhodes22Dave <Rhodes22Dave at gmail.com>
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> >> >Sent: Oct 24, 2010 11:50 PM
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> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind
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> >> >Interesting. I will try this.  I also thought that re-routing the genoa
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> >> >sheets inside the shrouds would just get the sail caught.  I have never
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> >> >liked the 175 genoa very much because I can't sail nearly as close to the
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> >> >wind as any of hundreds of other sailboats on our lake.  I can 
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> >> >better by furling in the genoa to a much smaller exposed sail 
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> >> >cost of sail shape with all the furling.  I may get a second R22 and am
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> >> >thinking of getting a smaller genoa--or adding the self-tending jib.  But
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> >> >what you suggest might be a solution, at least for long tacks.
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> >> >> to report that I had a pleasing experience by "finally" re-routing the
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> >> >> Jib (175 Genny) sheets inside the outer shrouds to try for 
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> >> >> sailing. I have to say that I didn't expect much difference, but I was
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> >> >> delighted to get inside 45 degrees at last. I obviously didn't let the
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> >> >> Genny out to the full 175, but at 100 we flew along and I felt like I
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> >> >> could make real headway upwind. I had delayed trying the new route for
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> >> >> the sheets because I thought the sail would get all hung up in the
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> >> >> shrouds, but it's become no big deal. Try it, you'll like it.
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