[Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.

Pat & Mary Ann pmadevig at gra.midco.net
Sun Sep 26 22:31:43 EDT 2010


Thanks for the suggestion Rummy.  I sail on a fresh water late in Minnesota 
called Maple Lake.  I'll probably coat the aluminum before I install it.
Pat.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.


> If you are going to use aluminum, remember that salt water will attack it
> very quickly. I would give it several coats of clear lacquer or some other
> coating to protect it from corrosion. The corrosion won't affect it's
> strength for many years, it's just a visual thing.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 9/26/2010 12:46:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> pmadevig at gra.midco.net writes:
>
> Stan  suggested I use aluminum for the replacement of the fractured stern
> plate,  so that's what I'll use.  Should be ready by spring.
> Pat----- Original  Message ----- 
> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> To:  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:52  AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
>
>
>>I  recently ordered some UHMW poly ethylene from Norva Plastics. I told
> them
>> what I needed, what it was going to be used for and they cut the  piece 
>> to
>> size  and shipped it to me very quickly and at a  reasonable price.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message  dated 9/23/2010 8:13:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>  sprocket80 at mail.com writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Pat,
>>
>> If this is not a warranty  repair by GB and you are  going to fix it
>> yourself, I would recommend NorVa  Plastics in  Norfolk, Virginia.
>> http://www.norvaplastics.com/
>>
>>  You  can send them a sketch, the old part, or if you are really 
>> computer
>> savvy, a  CAD file.  The will make the part from  the material of your
>> choosing
>> (UHMWPE?) and ship it to  you.
>>
>> Todd   T.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From: Pat &  Mary Ann  <pmadevig at gra.midco.net>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:56   pm
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern   plate.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>> Thanks for the thoughtful  message.  I'm planing  to have the problem
> plate
>> replicated  over the winter so it's ready to go  in the spring.
>> Pat.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael D.  Weisner"  <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22,  2010  10:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern   plate.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Pat,
>>>
>>> As an  engineer, the problem  appears to be caused by one (or more)
>>  problems
>>> as  follows:
>>>    1.   Motor weight exceeds design  specification
>>>   2.    Live load (motor, waves,  wind, etc.) exceeds  design
>> specification
>>>    3.      Improper structural material formulation or specification
>>>   4.    Damage or abuse (backed into fixed object,  collision,  etc.
>>>    5.    Storm  damage
>>>
>>> Since I  must assume that Stan built the  motor lift and provided the
>>>  engine,
>>> one must  assume that #1 is out.  As good as Stan is,  engineers do
> revise
>>> their designs to correct "oversights."  It is   entirely possible that 
>>> as
>>> the
>>> 4-cycle electric start  engine  weights continue to increase, the design
>>>  of
>>> the lift may need to be  redesigned (#1, #2 &  #3.)  An aluminum plate
>> would
>>> seem to  indicate  that such a process has already been started at  GBI.
>>>
>>>  If designed properly, you should not be  capable of damaging the lift
> by
>>> having "raised the Yamaha  too high."  IMHO, the only time that  you
> could
>>>  be
>>> at fault would be in cases like   #4.
>>>
>>> Is it safe to sail?  Well, make sure that  your safety  chain is in good
>>> shape
>>> and of the  correct length so that you  do not lose the motor should the
>>>  plate
>>> fail.  You could  also have difficulty raising or  lowering the motor if
>> the
>>> damage  affects the  mechanism.  Also, be careful since the cracked
>>  material
>>> can be very sharp.
>>>
>>>  Mike
>>> s/v  Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue  River, NY
>>>
>>> From:  "Pat & Mary Ann" Tuesday,  September 21, 2010 9:07 PM
>>>> Hello  all,
>>>>  This summer I notied a progresse, increasing series of cracks  in  the
>>>> stern
>>>> plate.  I asked Stan about it  and  he thought it would be safe to sail
>> til
>>>>  Labor Day, then pull the  plate and replace it with an aluminum
> replica.
>>>> Has anyone had a  similar problem?  I  wonder if it is because I raised
>> the
>>>>  Yamaha too  high.  Any other suggestions for repair or   replacement?
>>>> Pat Devig
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