[Rhodes22-list] Boat Buying as Democracy

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Fri Feb 4 17:50:56 EST 2011


Peter,

Stan has delivered many green hull R22s.  I made a green BR for Rex Henthorn's, a beauty - I'm sure I have a few pix if you want..

Art
s/v Mary Jane

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On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> Awlgrip can do.
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:37 PM, peter klappert
> <peterklappert at comcast.net>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Mercy beans to everyone who responded to my questions about hull and
>> cockpit colors.
>> 
>> As a child of the 60s I'd about settled on a psychedelic paisley, but then
>> I remembered my age & went for charcoal gray herringbone.
>> 
>> Actually, I have this knack for complicating anything & am still trying to
>> decide. Geoff's new white R22 is so handsome, I'd be happy with something
>> like that. But for sentimental reasons I lean toward a green (Awlcraft
>> Forest Green) which Stan doesn't offer. Tune in again tomorrow, or the next
>> day, or...
>> 
>> Thanx again,
>> 
>> P
>> 
>> 
>>>>>>> o<<<<<
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William E Wickman" <WEWickman at spectraenergy.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:37:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question
>> 
>> I have a dark blue hull and have never felt that it made the cabin hot at
>> all, and I've had the boat in some pretty warm areas (South Florida, etc.).
>> It's my feeling that water temperature probably has more of a bearing on
>> hull and cabin temperature than the hull color (though air temp will trump
>> everything).  Besides, most of the Rhodes hulls are covered with carpet in
>> the cabin area which adds an additional layer of insulation.
>> 
>> Regarding, fading.  My original gelcoat did fade, but after Stan repainted
>> with an awlgrip type epoxy it has looked shiny ever since.  It's also a lot
>> harder/tougher finish than gelcoat.
>> 
>> Bahama Bill
>> s/v Fina Lee
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of peter klappert
>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:53 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question
>> 
>> 
>> What a gorgeous new R22, Geoff!
>> 
>> I'm about to order mine and need to decide hull color. Geoff's boat has me
>> reconsidering, but unlike Mary Lou, I lean toward something other than
>> white.
>> 
>> Lots of folks say (claim?) a dark color makes the cabin hot, even if the
>> deck & cockpit are white. Is that true? Does anyone regret buying a colored
>> hull for this--or any--reason?
>> 
>> Mary Lou: since you have a white hull but a blue cockpit (navy? royal?), do
>> you find the cockpit gets hot to sit in?
>> 
>> This is especially important as I'll keep the R22 in Florida.
>> 
>> Also, does anyone have experience with one of the deck surfaces that look
>> like wood (or try to look like wood)? I saw something called New Teak in
>> Annapolis, but there are other brands, too.
>> 
>> Thanx,
>> 
>> P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> SONG
>> 
>> I could tell
>> Of silence where
>> One ran before
>> Himself and fell
>> Into silence
>> Yet more fair.
>> 
>>      --Yvor Winters
>> 
>>>>>>> o<<<<<
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:01:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait
>> 
>> Geoff,
>> Great looking boat.
>> 
>> I really like the look of a white Rhodes. Fretless before recycling
>> was a blue boat. The gelcoat had faded badly. Stan described the
>> color as "an experiment that didn't work well". When he told us he
>> had this boat available, he said he was going to paint her and asked
>> what color we would like. We said we had been thinking about a white
>> boat but we weren't too sure about putting white paint over blue
>> gelcoat. Stan said he didn't think it would be a problem and 12 years
>> later the boat still looks great. The bonus is that we got a blue
>> gelcoat cockpit (easy on the eyes in bright sun and doesn't show as
>> much dirt) as we decided that painting surfaces we walked on wouldn't
>> be such a good idea.
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22  Fretless
>> recycled in 1998
>> Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 08:55 AM 1/31/2011, you wrote:
>>> Thanks Bob. Yes, it's new. I will probably take advantage of your offer of
>>> stepping help. I won't be doing the BEER cruise because we'll be back in
>> WI
>>> by late April this year.
>>> 
>>> Dave, I believe I did get the instructions from Stan. I just haven't read
>>> his literature yet. About the motor, I meant I would start it after
>> hooking
>>> it up to the hose. But, thanks for the warning, because I have done way
>> more
>>> stupider things then that!
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Geoff, I hope you gave many great years with your boat.
>>>> 
>>>> Did you not get the written instructions from Stan for stepping and
>>>> unstepping the mast?
>>>> 
>>>> Did you mention that you were starting the motor with the boat on the
>>>> trailer?  Not letting it run I hope.  It needs to be in the water to
>> cool
>>>> the engine when running.
>>>> 
>>>> Best to you,
>>>> 
>>>> David Bradley
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Geoff,
>>>>> Congratulations!  Is the boat new because it looks it?  The
>>>> stepping/unstepping procedure is very intimidating at first but after a
>> few
>>>> hundred times it will be like second nature.  Best advice I ever got
>> was:
>>>> before you do anything, just ask yourself "what will be holding up the
>>>> mast?"  Works every time because if you can't figure that out then
>> don't do
>>>> it!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best of luck.  If you ever need advice about stepping/unstepping
>> please
>>>> ask because I have learned many shortcuts over the years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, are you going to do the BEER cruise this year-it is out of
>> Pensacola
>>>> first week of June?
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.sailingpensacola.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=680
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob K
>>>>> Yankee Clipper
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:40:12 -0600
>>>>>> From: geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We got back to Gulf Shores on Thursday PM. Total trip was about 18
>>>> hours. I
>>>>>> never drove over about 60 and was totally freaked after first
>> leaving
>>>>>> Stan's. Here I am driving on the highway with all these other
>> vehicles
>>>> and I
>>>>>> have this beautiful boat behind me that anyone on the road could
>> smash
>>>> into
>>>>>> if they happen to receive a text message that they just can't resist
>>>> reading
>>>>>> while I'm slowing down for traffic. Whew! And, there do seem to be
>> many
>>>>>> people on the highway staring down at their lap smiling. My
>> assumption
>>>> has
>>>>>> always been that they are reading a text message; although; it's
>>>> entirely
>>>>>> possible that they're staring at something else in their lap and
>> that's
>>>>>> what's producing the smiles (at least the men). Not that there's
>>>> anything
>>>>>> wrong with that, but, certainly not while driving.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Every time I glanced at my rear view mirror I said to myself, "holy
>>>> crap,
>>>>>> I've actually finally done this thing that I've been dreaming about
>> for
>>>> ages
>>>>>> (actually, my first reaction was always "who is that a$$hole
>> tailgating
>>>> me
>>>>>> so closely? Oh wait, that's not a tailgater, that's my boat."). It's
>>>>>> amazing, though, that after a few hours of driving I finally settled
>>>> down
>>>>>> and actually spent more time looking through my front windshield
>> than my
>>>>>> rear view mirror. The F150 handled the towing fine. The extra weight
>> I
>>>>>> carried by towing the boat was offset by the lightness of my wallet
>>>> after
>>>>>> paying Stan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stan's crew did a great job prepping the boat for trailering.
>> Everything
>>>> was
>>>>>> locked down. During one rest area I tightened down one strap about
>> 1/2
>>>> inch
>>>>>> and that was it! Wow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While at Stan's the weather was miserable. Rain and cold. When I
>> arrived
>>>> the
>>>>>> boat was sitting in his yard fully rigged. We launched the boat just
>> to
>>>> go
>>>>>> through the trailering procedure but we couldn't sail. Very cold and
>> a
>>>> thick
>>>>>> fog. Once back on land his crew took me through the derigging
>> procedure
>>>> one
>>>>>> step at a time. I participated somewhat, but my hands were so cold I
>>>>>> couldn't even take the rings off the pins. While the derigging was
>> going
>>>> on
>>>>>> my wife Joyce was standing by with an umbrella, a pencil, and a
>> soggy
>>>> piece
>>>>>> of paper writing down all the steps as I yelled each one to her over
>> the
>>>>>> sounds of wind and rain. You know, things like "remove the pin from
>> the
>>>> aft
>>>>>> lower shroud and connect the turnbuckle to the.....". You get the
>> idea.
>>>> Over
>>>>>> dinner that night we tried to decipher the soggy, smudged list she
>> had
>>>>>> written and the above item came out something like "remove the pin
>> after
>>>> the
>>>>>> low shods and turn the buckles." We had some good laughs. Maybe it
>> was
>>>> just
>>>>>> the martinis I was drinking. I so wish I would have had a video cam
>> to
>>>>>> record the whole thing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We spent the night at the Captain's Quarters B&B in downtown Edenton
>>>> (what a
>>>>>> beautiful town Edenton is). The next day we added some straps to the
>> rig
>>>> and
>>>>>> were on our way. We stopped at a rest stop before Atlanta and slept
>> for
>>>> a
>>>>>> few hours in the truck and then proceeded. No way was I going to
>> leave
>>>> the
>>>>>> rig in a hotel parking lot. I wouldn't have slept well worrying all
>>>> night
>>>>>> about the boat while suffering separation anxiety. I did sleep
>>>> relatively
>>>>>> well at the rest stop knowing the boat was attached to me via a
>> steel
>>>>>> umbilical cord of sorts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The first day's drive was windy, cold, and rainy. The second day was
>>>>>> beautiful. We were soooo happy to be out of the cold wet weather.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The boat is sitting in our boat yard here at the condo where I just
>>>> stand
>>>>>> there and stare at it lovingly. For the next few days I'll be
>> sorting
>>>>>> through things, getting some supplies, prepping and starting the
>> engine,
>>>>>> reading Stan's literature, etc. while I wait for our ramp work to be
>>>>>> completed so I can rig and launch (Rummy.... still interested?).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This boat is freaking gorgeous. What a beautiful product they build.
>> It
>>>> was
>>>>>> great to finally meet Stan and Rose; they look well. Mark and the
>> crew
>>>> were
>>>>>> also wonderful.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks to all of you who have supported me and advised me thus far
>> in
>>>> this
>>>>>> adventure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some initial pictures are at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/geoffreylfarrell/Rhodes22?authkey=Gv1sRgCKL8sbTOlv-LPg&feat=directlink
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Sling <daysails at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey Geoff I think you got this right. Order in winter so you can
>> launch
>>>> in
>>>>>>> the Spring. Brace yourself for a rush of pride in ownership when
>> you
>>>> see
>>>>>>> it. Joe
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BigM wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm here at the Captain's Quarters in Edenton getting ready to go
>> to
>>>>>>>> Stan's
>>>>>>>> to see my boat. I can't wait. Drive down (or up, actually) was
>>>> perfect.
>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>> cold here though. Geoff
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