[Rhodes22-list] LOOSE CENTERBOARD

Lou Rosenberg lsrvideo at optimum.net
Mon Feb 21 12:43:44 EST 2011


Greg:

I have an '81 R22 and bought mine with a stuck board along with other  
issues.
A former member of this board Roger Pihlaja, a chemical engineer by  
profession assisted me greatly in rebuilding my
centerboard well, trunk and mechanical advantage.

I took off those non moving ss pennant "pulleys" and replaced them with
Harken mini blocks.  The blocks that attach to the board are held in  
place by new 1/8ss that I machined.
They have been working great for me.  I also bought a one pc  Harken  
mini block which is plastic but I enclosed it in a custom
mounted ss housing for the inside of the cap which I also had to  
rebuild in stages.

Some of this restoration used to be available on the Blew Skies site  
(owners site) but I m  not sure if that is still up.

To other readers who may read this I am curious if  ANY R22 has lost  
its centerboard during a sail?  I don t think its possible unless the  
trunk gets damaged
in some terrible way.  Even a hard grounding should just push up the  
board.

  My second season I grounded her so badly in Jamaica bay NY I had to  
get BoatUS to pull me off.
I spent a good hr in warm water walking, trying to rock her off to no  
avail.  I found out that I was caught on an old piling which only  
scratched my keel.  I did extensive
searching for any damage and found nothing more than my primer paint  
visible.

I was unfortunate enough to have a weakened hull under the forward  
cement ballast in my boat.  I ended up having to strip all of the  
paint off twice in that section
to find the weakened hull laminate which was built up again using   
glass  cloth and epoxy.

I also stripped all of the paint off my orig CB and Rudder and re  
epoxied them.
feel free to contact me via email for more info if needed

safe sailing
Lou
  s/v Miracles
Bklyn Ny


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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:21:58 -0500
> From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Peter,
>
> I'm more of a nonfiction action thriller kind of a reader but I  
> thoroughly enjoyed Slocum's book.  Talk about humility--he made the  
> impossible seem like no big deal.
>
> If I tried sailing around the world with my wife I think she would  
> choose throwing me overboard before divorce; probably before we  
> left the Chesapeake.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of peter klappert
> Sent: Fri 2/18/2011 10:03 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
> First, thanks to everyone who has written about boat covers. I've  
> got a bug that's going around here & will reply individually soon.
>
> Second, Lee's nightmare reminds me: I just finished a new,  
> annotated edition of Joshua Slocum's SAILING ALONE AROUND THE  
> WORLD, a great Winter read if you don't know it already--or if you  
> do. Slocum was the first guy to do it, on a boat he largely built  
> himself in the 1890s. Anyway, his boat sailed itself a great deal  
> of the time, and not just in Gulf Streams. It gave him plenty of  
> time to sleep, read, cook, write a book, whatever. I just wish his  
> book was even longer & more detailed.
>
> When I was a teenager we knew a couple--Jimmy & Jean Stark--who  
> sailed around the world on a 34' yawl (I think). Took three times  
> longer than they planned. Came back to Connecticut and got divorced.
>
> P
>
>
>>>>>> o<<<<<
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LELAND KUHN" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:27:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
>
> This really doesn't qualify as a sailing nightmare but it's the first
> time it's ever happened to me and definitely got my heart racing.  I
> fell asleep on my boat yesterday.  Lack of sleep and alcohol were
> contributors, but I had gotten sunscreen in my eyes and had closed  
> them
> until the burning went away.  I couldn't have been out for more than a
> few minutes but it's surprising how far a slow sailboat can go in that
> time.  I certainly learned my lesson:  if you have to sail tired take
> plenty of amphetamines, and protecting your boat is more important  
> than
> protecting your skin.
>
>
>
> Lee
>
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
>
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Caesar Paul
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
> John,
>
>
>
> It's good to know that this sailing nightmare experience is not unique
> to me.
>
>
>
> Unsure of my anchoring skill, that was tested by tide and current in
> Puget
>
> Sound, I had a fun but restless sleep while over-nighting on the hook
> last
>
> summer.  Woke up at 3.00am and noticed the boat was closer to nice
> little Tug
>
> that was on a mooring; I went out side and adjusted my rode.  It  
> turned
> out that
>
> the shift in position was because of a 3 hour fall in the tide.
>
>
>
> Chris could have alerted me to that development, but I guess he was a
> little
>
> lethargic by the sumscious dinner we enjoyed together.
>
>
>
> Caesar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 6:44:52 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
>
> Hail Caesar, (bet you get tired of that)
>
>
>
> The first year I had recurring dreams about the boat being driven  
> ashore
>
> while sleeping at anchor. Sometimes the dream could end up with the  
> boat
> 1/4
>
> mi or so from the shore. When sleeping aboard now I always set at  
> least
> 2
>
> anchors regardless of wind and have a 3rd if I think a storm will blow
>
> through overnight.
>
>
>
> John S
>
>
>
>
>
> Caesarsailor wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Have you ever dreamt that you lost your boat, or that it was stolen,
> or
>
>> that it
>
>> sank, or some such thing?
>
>>
>
>> I dreamt last night that my boat was at some new sailing destination
> in
>
>> the
>
>> water, and I arrived with motor, anchor and rode to ready it for
>
>> departure, only
>
>> to be told by someone that he gave it away.
>
>>
>
>>   Imagine my shock and horror! Was I glad to awake this morning and
>
>> realize that
>
>> I was dreaming.  So realistic was the dream.
>
>>
>
>> And please don't ask what I had for dinner last night.
>
>>
>
>> Caesar
>
>> Gentle Breeze
>
>> 1986 recycled 2008
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:42:34 -0500
> From: "Stephen Staum" <staum at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Caesar,
>
> I lived your nightmare two years ago.  I invited another couple to  
> join my wife Carol and me for an afternoon sail on the Saturday  
> after Labor Day.  I had sailed on Labor Day (the previous Monday).   
> When we arrived to the mooring area on the club launch we found my  
> boat missing, mooring and all!  Our guests, who had never sailed  
> with us before said: "Sure you have a boat".
>
> We retreated back to the club and called the Coast Guard to report  
> the boat missing.  To salvage some of the afternoon we proceeded to  
> have lunch overlooking the water on our club's outdoor deck.  Not  
> more than 10 minutes later the Coast Guard called back with news  
> that a power boater had found my boat and responded to their radio  
> call.  He found it a couple of miles away from our mooring field,  
> mooring still attached and sitting bow low as the Rhodes had  
> dragged the mooring (a 300# mushroom) out to deep water.  The good  
> samaritan tied a line to the mooring and dragged it to as shallow a  
> place as he could get it to.  I gave the launch driver a healthy  
> tip and he agreed to take us out there.  Since the boat appeared  
> undamaged, we hopped aboard and enjoyed our afternoon sail.  I tied  
> up to a borrowed mooring until I had a chance to drag my mooring  
> back and hoist it on deck to check it out.  Apparently, a frozen  
> swivel had allowed the chain to twist and foul which shortened it !
>  enough that the boat went out to sea on the next high tide (our  
> tide variation can be up to 10').  $200 worth of chain later, my  
> mooring was operational and back in place.
>
> Take heed that not all nightmares end badly.
>
> Fair winds to all,
>
> Stephen Staum
> '87 Rhodes 22, Carol Lee
> Needham, MA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Caesar Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:47 PM
> To: Rhodes List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
> Have you ever dreamt that you lost your boat, or that it was  
> stolen, or that it
> sank, or some such thing?
>
> I dreamt last night that my boat was at some new sailing  
> destination in the
> water, and I arrived with motor, anchor and rode to ready it for  
> departure, only
> to be told by someone that he gave it away.
>
>   Imagine my shock and horror! Was I glad to awake this morning and  
> realize that
> I was dreaming.  So realistic was the dream.
>
> And please don't ask what I had for dinner last night.
>
> Caesar
> Gentle Breeze
> 1986 recycled 2008
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:53:38 +0000 (UTC)
> From: peter klappert <peterklappert at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
>
> Lee--
>
> I agree with you about Slocum's humility, though the annotated  
> version points out how he sometimes phrased boasting to read as  
> humility.
>
> Slocum's no-hands sailing reminded me of going out with you from  
> Kent Island and how beautifully At Ease tracked with the tiller  
> "lashed." And that reminded me of the Starks. (Of course I meant  
> "Trade Winds," not "Gulf Streams"!)
>
> Jimmy S wanted to make a movie of the trip. Since my father was in  
> motion pictures, he gave Jimmy lessons before they left and offered  
> suggestions as J sent cans of film back. J was very unsure of  
> himself, repeated the same takes again and again, and finally gave  
> up. I remember what seemed like an hour of a Polynesian wading  
> along with a spear trying to get a fish. But the mid-Pacific  
> footage was vivid and the way the Starks lashed the wheel and just  
> let the Vixen sail itself impressed me a lot, since I'd never heard  
> it was possible (and even standard).
>
> When they got back J edited what he did shoot and showed it outside  
> one summer night in my home town. There was a loud soundtrack and  
> lots of Polynesian dancing. Some neighbors thought he was showing  
> porno movies and called the police.
>
> P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LELAND KUHN" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 3:21:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
> Peter,
>
> I'm more of a nonfiction action thriller kind of a reader but I  
> thoroughly enjoyed Slocum's book.  Talk about humility--he made the  
> impossible seem like no big deal.
>
> If I tried sailing around the world with my wife I think she would  
> choose throwing me overboard before divorce; probably before we  
> left the Chesapeake.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of peter klappert
> Sent: Fri 2/18/2011 10:03 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
> First, thanks to everyone who has written about boat covers. I've  
> got a bug that's going around here & will reply individually soon.
>
> Second, Lee's nightmare reminds me: I just finished a new,  
> annotated edition of Joshua Slocum's SAILING ALONE AROUND THE  
> WORLD, a great Winter read if you don't know it already--or if you  
> do. Slocum was the first guy to do it, on a boat he largely built  
> himself in the 1890s. Anyway, his boat sailed itself a great deal  
> of the time, and not just in Gulf Streams. It gave him plenty of  
> time to sleep, read, cook, write a book, whatever. I just wish his  
> book was even longer & more detailed.
>
> When I was a teenager we knew a couple--Jimmy & Jean Stark--who  
> sailed around the world on a 34' yawl (I think). Took three times  
> longer than they planned. Came back to Connecticut and got divorced.
>
> P
>
>
>>>>>> o<<<<<
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LELAND KUHN" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:27:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
>
> This really doesn't qualify as a sailing nightmare but it's the first
> time it's ever happened to me and definitely got my heart racing.  I
> fell asleep on my boat yesterday.  Lack of sleep and alcohol were
> contributors, but I had gotten sunscreen in my eyes and had closed  
> them
> until the burning went away.  I couldn't have been out for more than a
> few minutes but it's surprising how far a slow sailboat can go in that
> time.  I certainly learned my lesson:  if you have to sail tired take
> plenty of amphetamines, and protecting your boat is more important  
> than
> protecting your skin.
>
>
>
> Lee
>
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
>
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Caesar Paul
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
> John,
>
>
>
> It's good to know that this sailing nightmare experience is not unique
> to me.
>
>
>
> Unsure of my anchoring skill, that was tested by tide and current in
> Puget
>
> Sound, I had a fun but restless sleep while over-nighting on the hook
> last
>
> summer.  Woke up at 3.00am and noticed the boat was closer to nice
> little Tug
>
> that was on a mooring; I went out side and adjusted my rode.  It  
> turned
> out that
>
> the shift in position was because of a 3 hour fall in the tide.
>
>
>
> Chris could have alerted me to that development, but I guess he was a
> little
>
> lethargic by the sumscious dinner we enjoyed together.
>
>
>
> Caesar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 6:44:52 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
>
> Hail Caesar, (bet you get tired of that)
>
>
>
> The first year I had recurring dreams about the boat being driven  
> ashore
>
> while sleeping at anchor. Sometimes the dream could end up with the  
> boat
> 1/4
>
> mi or so from the shore. When sleeping aboard now I always set at  
> least
> 2
>
> anchors regardless of wind and have a 3rd if I think a storm will blow
>
> through overnight.
>
>
>
> John S
>
>
>
>
>
> Caesarsailor wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Have you ever dreamt that you lost your boat, or that it was stolen,
> or
>
>> that it
>
>> sank, or some such thing?
>
>>
>
>> I dreamt last night that my boat was at some new sailing destination
> in
>
>> the
>
>> water, and I arrived with motor, anchor and rode to ready it for
>
>> departure, only
>
>> to be told by someone that he gave it away.
>
>>
>
>>   Imagine my shock and horror! Was I glad to awake this morning and
>
>> realize that
>
>> I was dreaming.  So realistic was the dream.
>
>>
>
>> And please don't ask what I had for dinner last night.
>
>>
>
>> Caesar
>
>> Gentle Breeze
>
>> 1986 recycled 2008
>
>> __________________________________________________
>
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
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>>
>
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and  
>> archives
> go
>
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>
>>
>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> View this message in context:
>
> http://old.nabble.com/Nightmare-tp30944378p30955392.html
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:59:38 -0800 (PST)
> From: Greg PA <baywindgroup at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loose centerboard
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Billy
> I was able to get my CB out today. It was actually a really good  
> day down at
> the boat, I got a lot of work done. She was rocking like crazy from  
> the wind
> even though she is on her trailer on the hard.
>
> Here are some pictures of how mine is currently rigged. "Rigged" is  
> probably
> a perfect description. I thought the end of the tubing (pin) would  
> have
> gouged out the sides, but it wasn't as bad as I thought. I will be  
> coping
> your pin, and I will be glassing a piece of ss tubing into the hole  
> through
> the CB. I want metal on metal where the pin is. I will also replace  
> the
> tubing with some kind of blocks, I haven't figured out how yet.
>
> Thanks again for the help.
>
>
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p30967552/Centerboard%2B001.jpg
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p30967552/Centerboard%2B002.jpg
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p30967552/Centerboard%2B003.jpg
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p30967552/Centerboard%2B004.jpg
>
> -----
> Greg PA
> s/v SERENITY
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East MD
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:02:44 +0000 (UTC)
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> Rick, Peter,
>
>
>
> I fully agree on a tent shape, but suspect that the simpler and  
> more convenient approach would allow the mast to be stepped much of  
> the year, horizontal when in longer-term storage.? I think Peter  
> will want to opt for reasonable convenience when he is in his  
> Florida sailing mode.? Just a thought...
>
>
>
> Art
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter klappert" <peterklappert at comcast.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers
>
>
> Rick-- Thanks for the good advice and suggestions, which I';m sure  
> I'll make use of. I'm stealing an idea from Chris Cowie and  
> replacing the rode locker with a solar-powered fan, which should  
> help at least some with humidity in the cabin. I'll ask sailing  
> neighbors about issues you and others have raised. I'm taking a  
> Coast Guard Auxiliary course & will get suggestions there, too.
>
>
> ?? ? >>>>>o<<<<<
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick" <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:32:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers
>
> A cover that encloses the boat works well for the northern winter. ? 
> I do
> that myself. ?But in hot, humid Florida, enclosing a boat is a biology
> science project few would care to undertake. ?Plus, a painted  
> covered boat
> that is exposed to the sun won't be painted anymore when the cover is
> removed.
>
> The best cover for Florida is tent style. ?I helps to store the mast
> horizontal on the boat to support the tent cover.
>
> Stay away from metal grommets. ?When a hurricane is tearing the  
> cover off,
> plastic grommets do much less damage.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ken Bates <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter
>> 20 by 30 heavy duty silver tarp, extra supports for mast and  
>> padding on top
>> to protect the tarp from "corners".
>> The metal roof helps too!
>> We can get a couple of feet of lake effect snow here in South West  
>> Michigan
>> Ken
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 02:04:44 +0000 (UTC)
> From: cover-man at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers & Tampa Bay
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> Bill,
>
>
>
> Any space like you describe is scarce as hen's teeth.? The only  
> possibility might be a club in Clearwater.? Everyone requires a  
> membership.
>
>
>
> Art
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William E Wickman" <WEWickman at spectraenergy.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:09:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers & Tampa Bay
>
> I've often thought about putting a cover on my boat as well just  
> for the sake of keeping the sun and dirt off of it, but none of the  
> other boats at my marina have them so my fear of looking anal  
> retentive has kept me from doing it. ?No bird problems, but lots of  
> spiders. ?If you boat cover works out it may give me the courage to  
> go for it.
>
> Speaking of Tampa Bay, my daughter is going to be staying in St.  
> Petersburg the months of June-July doing a NOAA internship. ?I was  
> thinking of taking my boat down there and leaving it while she is  
> there. ?The condo she is renting doesn't have any docks, but it is  
> on Boca Ciega Bay off of Pinellas Parkway. ?How is the sailing in  
> June and July? ?Can you recommend a place to keep my boat, either  
> in water or a place I could keep it rigged and trailer launch? ? 
> Good sailing destinations around Tampa Bay? ?It would be nice to  
> have my boat there while visiting a couple of times this summer,  
> but hate to drag the boat back and forth.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill W.
> s/v Fina Lee
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of peter klappert
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers
>
>
> Ron--
>
> Thanks for your messages & I look forward to the photo(s). Hope  
> your cover survived the snow. The snow here on Tampa Bay never gets  
> that deep.
>
> P
>
>
>
> 2003 Klingle Rd NW
> Washington, DC 20010
> 202 483 3822 C: 202 821 2679
>
> 911 Silver Palm Way
> Apollo Beach, FL 33572
> 813 645 5601 C: 202 821 2679
>
> ?? ? >>>>>o<<<<<
>
> SONG
>
> I could tell
> Of silence where
> One ran before
> Himself and fell
> Into silence
> Yet more fair.
>
> ?? ? ?--Yvor Winters
>
> ?? ? >>>>>o<<<<<
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronald Lipton" <ronald.lipton at gmail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:24:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers
>
> I am in Europe now, I will send some pictures when I get back this  
> weekend. ?The
> cover cost about $400, and only covers the region up to the aft  
> lowers. ?I was
> lucky to find a canvas maker that did a good job.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 2/17/11 6:35 AM, peter klappert wrote:
>>
>> Thanx, Jerry. Maybe Ron will see your message and get in touch.
>>
>> I regretted the ironic reply to Rick& ?Hank as soon as I hit send.  
>> I've got a cold that's making me grumpy. (I'm also not real fond  
>> of jokes about speech impediments, even witty ones.)
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:11:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter,
>> The only person I know of with a cover is Ron from Chicago,whose  
>> last name
>> escapes me right now.He would be the one to ask.
>> And on the lift, Rick misspelled it,Hank caught it,and you could  
>> see it
>> swirling down the drain from there. Don't be to hard on them,this  
>> is as
>> close as we will get to sailing for another 2 months
>>
>> Jerry Lowe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I don't know what kind of lifts you guys are on, but the message  
>>> in my
>>> SENT box says "lift," L-I-F-T, as in boatlift, B-O-A-T-L-I-F-T.  
>>> So do the
>>> copies in your messages. Where do you stick your masts when  
>>> they're not on
>>> your boats? (Mine will be in a garage.)
>>>
>>> No Thanks for the ass-inine replies.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hank"<hnw555 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:11:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Covers
>>>
>>> Nice comeback!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Rick<sloopblueheron at gmail.com> ? 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a reverse lisp, called a lifp.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Hank<hnw555 at gmail.com> ?wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do you get the boat on the list? ?Is this a Tron like  
>>>>> maneuver?
>>>> :-)
>>>>> Hank
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Rick<sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the boat is on the list, where's the mast?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:34 AM, peter klappert
>>>>>> <peterklappert at comcast.net>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Everyone or Anyone--
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The R22 I'm getting will spend most of its time on an uncovered
>>>> lift,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I'm away for months at a time. So I figure I'll need a boat  
>>>>>>> cover
>>>> and
>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> consult the Rhodes Email Encyclopedia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm already in touch with someone who can make the cover, but  
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>> be
>>>>> glad
>>>>>>> to hear opinions or experiences regarding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Materials?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colors?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Design? (For example, is your cover designed for rigging up,  
>>>>>>> down
>>>> or
>>>>>> both?
>>>>>>> Can one person quickly put it on or take it off? Has anyone  
>>>>>>> tried
>>>> a
>>>>>> 2-part
>>>>>>> or 3-part cover? Etc.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you care to say something about cost or manufacturers, I'd be
>>>> glad
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> hear that, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:59:15 -0800
> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Very cool Peter!
>
> Chris G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of peter  
> klappert
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 10:54 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
> Lee--
>
> I agree with you about Slocum's humility, though the annotated version
> points out how he sometimes phrased boasting to read as humility.
>
> Slocum's no-hands sailing reminded me of going out with you from  
> Kent Island
> and how beautifully At Ease tracked with the tiller "lashed." And that
> reminded me of the Starks. (Of course I meant "Trade Winds," not "Gulf
> Streams"!)
>
> Jimmy S wanted to make a movie of the trip. Since my father was in  
> motion
> pictures, he gave Jimmy lessons before they left and offered  
> suggestions as
> J sent cans of film back. J was very unsure of himself, repeated  
> the same
> takes again and again, and finally gave up. I remember what seemed  
> like an
> hour of a Polynesian wading along with a spear trying to get a  
> fish. But the
> mid-Pacific footage was vivid and the way the Starks lashed the  
> wheel and
> just let the Vixen sail itself impressed me a lot, since I'd never  
> heard it
> was possible (and even standard).
>
> When they got back J edited what he did shoot and showed it outside  
> one
> summer night in my home town. There was a loud soundtrack and lots of
> Polynesian dancing. Some neighbors thought he was showing porno  
> movies and
> called the police.
>
> P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LELAND KUHN" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 3:21:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
> Peter,
>
> I'm more of a nonfiction action thriller kind of a reader but I  
> thoroughly
> enjoyed Slocum's book.  Talk about humility--he made the impossible  
> seem
> like no big deal.
>
> If I tried sailing around the world with my wife I think she would  
> choose
> throwing me overboard before divorce; probably before we left the
> Chesapeake.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of peter klappert
> Sent: Fri 2/18/2011 10:03 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
> First, thanks to everyone who has written about boat covers. I've  
> got a bug
> that's going around here & will reply individually soon.
>
> Second, Lee's nightmare reminds me: I just finished a new,  
> annotated edition
> of Joshua Slocum's SAILING ALONE AROUND THE WORLD, a great Winter  
> read if
> you don't know it already--or if you do. Slocum was the first guy  
> to do it,
> on a boat he largely built himself in the 1890s. Anyway, his boat  
> sailed
> itself a great deal of the time, and not just in Gulf Streams. It  
> gave him
> plenty of time to sleep, read, cook, write a book, whatever. I just  
> wish his
> book was even longer & more detailed.
>
> When I was a teenager we knew a couple--Jimmy & Jean Stark--who sailed
> around the world on a 34' yawl (I think). Took three times longer  
> than they
> planned. Came back to Connecticut and got divorced.
>
> P
>
>
>>>>>> o<<<<<
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LELAND KUHN" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:27:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
>
> This really doesn't qualify as a sailing nightmare but it's the first
> time it's ever happened to me and definitely got my heart racing.  I
> fell asleep on my boat yesterday.  Lack of sleep and alcohol were
> contributors, but I had gotten sunscreen in my eyes and had closed  
> them
> until the burning went away.  I couldn't have been out for more than a
> few minutes but it's surprising how far a slow sailboat can go in that
> time.  I certainly learned my lesson:  if you have to sail tired take
> plenty of amphetamines, and protecting your boat is more important  
> than
> protecting your skin.
>
>
>
> Lee
>
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
>
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Caesar Paul
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
> John,
>
>
>
> It's good to know that this sailing nightmare experience is not unique
> to me.
>
>
>
> Unsure of my anchoring skill, that was tested by tide and current in
> Puget
>
> Sound, I had a fun but restless sleep while over-nighting on the hook
> last
>
> summer.  Woke up at 3.00am and noticed the boat was closer to nice
> little Tug
>
> that was on a mooring; I went out side and adjusted my rode.  It  
> turned
> out that
>
> the shift in position was because of a 3 hour fall in the tide.
>
>
>
> Chris could have alerted me to that development, but I guess he was a
> little
>
> lethargic by the sumscious dinner we enjoyed together.
>
>
>
> Caesar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 6:44:52 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nightmare
>
>
>
>
>
> Hail Caesar, (bet you get tired of that)
>
>
>
> The first year I had recurring dreams about the boat being driven  
> ashore
>
> while sleeping at anchor. Sometimes the dream could end up with the  
> boat
> 1/4
>
> mi or so from the shore. When sleeping aboard now I always set at  
> least
> 2
>
> anchors regardless of wind and have a 3rd if I think a storm will blow
>
> through overnight.
>
>
>
> John S
>
>
>
>
>
> Caesarsailor wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Have you ever dreamt that you lost your boat, or that it was stolen,
> or
>
>> that it
>
>> sank, or some such thing?
>
>>
>
>> I dreamt last night that my boat was at some new sailing destination
> in
>
>> the
>
>> water, and I arrived with motor, anchor and rode to ready it for
>
>> departure, only
>
>> to be told by someone that he gave it away.
>
>>
>
>>   Imagine my shock and horror! Was I glad to awake this morning and
>
>> realize that
>
>> I was dreaming.  So realistic was the dream.
>
>>
>
>> And please don't ask what I had for dinner last night.
>
>>
>
>> Caesar
>
>> Gentle Breeze
>
>> 1986 recycled 2008
>
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>
> http://old.nabble.com/Nightmare-tp30944378p30955392.html
>
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 07:31:03 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loose centerboard
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
> Greg,
>
> I'm not exactly sure where you are talking about metal on metal,  
> but I know
>  enough that it isn't a good idea. You need a bushing of some sort  
> between
> the  metals to ease operation and prevent corrosion. I've seen the  
> insides
> of several  cb trunks and know that Stan always used a pvc or other  
> plastic
> as a  bushing.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 2/19/2011 5:59:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> baywindgroup at comcast.net writes:
>
>
> Billy
> I was able to get my CB out today. It was actually a  really good  
> day down
> at
> the boat, I got a lot of work done. She was rocking  like crazy  
> from the
> wind
> even though she is on her trailer on the hard.
>
> Here are some pictures of how mine is currently rigged. "Rigged" is
> probably
> a perfect description. I thought the end of the tubing (pin) would   
> have
> gouged out the sides, but it wasn't as bad as I thought. I will be   
> coping
> your pin, and I will be glassing a piece of ss tubing into the  
> hole  through
> the CB. I want metal on metal where the pin is. I will also  
> replace  the
> tubing with some kind of blocks, I haven't figured out how  yet.
>
> Thanks again for the  help.
>
>
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p30967552/Centerboard%2B001.jpg
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p30967552/Centerboard%2B002.jpg
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> http://old.nabble.com/file/p30967552/Centerboard%2B004.jpg
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> Greg PA
> s/v SERENITY
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East  MD
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> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 05:58:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Greg PA <baywindgroup at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loose centerboard
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> Rummy
> By "metal on metal" I meant were the pin goes though the CB I want  
> to epoxy
> a metal sleeve (ss tubing) into the  CB so the pin isn't in contact  
> with the
> fiberglass of the CB. I guess I could just use PVC pipe instead of SS
> tubing, I thought the SS would be more durable, but I am looking  
> for any and
> all suggestions.
>
> After some thought last night I think the larger SS tubing I took  
> out was
> fiberglassed in to the CB originally. The boat is a 1979 and who  
> knows how
> long it took for the tubing to destroy the CB around it. If you  
> look at the
> pictures, the hole in the CB for the pin is enlarged.
>
> Another factor was there wasn't any hose in the CB cavity (I will  
> be adding
> it). I am on a mooring all Summer, and get a TON of side to side  
> rocking
> from the power boats off the Upper Bay. I need to make the CB as  
> stable as
> possible and keep the side to side to a minimum. I will use the CB  
> a lot
> more sparingly this summer after reading about it here.
>
> Has anyone come up with a way to add hose to the stern of the CB  
> Cavity to
> really snug up the CB when it is not deployed?
>
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> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:03:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: BillyDoc <cushman at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loose centerboard
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> Greg PA wrote:
>>
>> Rummy
>> By "metal on metal" I meant were the pin goes though the CB I want to
>> epoxy a metal sleeve (ss tubing) into the  CB so the pin isn't in  
>> contact
>> with the fiberglass of the CB. I guess I could just use PVC pipe  
>> instead
>> of SS tubing, I thought the SS would be more durable, but I am  
>> looking for
>> any and all suggestions.
>>
>> After some thought last night I think the larger SS tubing I took  
>> out was
>> fiberglassed in to the CB originally. The boat is a 1979 and who  
>> knows how
>> long it took for the tubing to destroy the CB around it. If you  
>> look at
>> the pictures, the hole in the CB for the pin is enlarged.
>>
>> Another factor was there wasn't any hose in the CB cavity (I will be
>> adding it). I am on a mooring all Summer, and get a TON of side to  
>> side
>> rocking from the power boats off the Upper Bay. I need to make the  
>> CB as
>> stable as possible and keep the side to side to a minimum. I will  
>> use the
>> CB a lot more sparingly this summer after reading about it here.
>>
>> Has anyone come up with a way to add hose to the stern of the CB  
>> Cavity to
>> really snug up the CB when it is not deployed?
>>
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Rummy is right, you shouldn't try to install a metal to metal  
> bearing in
> your CB.  There are two reasons for this.  First, in all 'plain  
> bearings'
> which is what this is, one metal should be soft and the other  
> hard.  This
> will prevent galling as the two metals slide against each other.   
> An example
> of this principle can be found in an internal combustion engine.   
> There, the
> crankshaft (hard metal) is usually supported on very soft metal  
> bearings,
> and those bearings take a real beating.  The second reason is that two
> different metals will invariably have two different galvanic  
> potentials,
> even two that are nominally the same alloy, so putting them in a wet
> environment makes a battery.  The resulting current flow,  
> ESPECIALLY in salt
> water, will eat at least one of the metals in no time at all!  So I  
> strongly
> recommend you go with a plastic to re-sleeve your center board  
> hole.  The
> best plastic for this purpose is UHMWPE, which you can get in tube  
> form
> here: http://www.mcmaster.com/# (and other places).  Unfortunately,  
> you
> might have to do some machining to get the right dimensions.
>
> The good news is that I think you will find that the rubber tubes  
> used in
> the 'usual' configuration will hold the CB in place very nicely.   
> Anyway
> they seem to do so on mine.
>
> Alas, today is great weather . . . and I need to get my CB trunk  
> sealed back
> up.  So, it's take some Motrin and get to work for me!
>
> Bill
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