[Rhodes22-list] Doggie update/DO

elle watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 2 16:23:27 EST 2011 

Kathy,

Please know that it is my BF who is the horse/dog rehabilitator. He came up on a farm & just has a sense with animals. Jackie and Boney (well, Beaureguard now....like the Civil War General...with the big, um, 'cannon'...HA...I DIDN'T name him....;^) Animals just respond to him like I have never before seen.....
Many thanks for your comments...yours plus Marc's seem to have turned the tide & BF has agreed to consult with a DO after we are over this acute phase of the back issue. This is just another iteration of the same back problem he has had for 30 years, after he broke his back. Usually the acute phase is over within three or four days..this is HIGHLY unusual...and got his attention.
many many thanks to all..
elle

Beer is good....people are crazy

1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}

--- On Sat, 1/1/11, Kathy Barron <jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com> wrote:

From: Kathy Barron <jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Doggie update
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Cc: "BenCittadino" <bencittadino at gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 9:19 PM

Elle, 
What a touching story about your dogs and horses! I had to look at the original photo to be sure it was the same horse in the second photo. Good work.

As for the BF....I always think of a DO (have worked with several) as an MD with common sense. But your trip to see the pain clinic is probably a wise first step. Most people don't realize the scope of an anesthesiologist's knowledge and practice. I retired 2 yrs before Jim died, but at the time worked as a nurse practitioner for the department of Anesthesia at Cinci's children's hosp. The scope of what the team did was amazing. And all of us, from the NPs, nurse anesthetists, DOs, and MDs, all assessed and contributed to the patients comfort and well being. Having all those levels of input was a good balance of care. But!!! do your own research, just like you did with Jackie, and ask questions!

Hope everyone gets feeling better,

Kathy


---- BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> For what it's worth, in New Jersey both MD's and DO's are licensed
> identically as "Physician and Surgeon". There are many practices here which
> consist of practitioners from both schools, and many practices that consist
> of only one or the other. So the only reson DO's are not medical doctors is
> that they don't hold that MD degree but the Doctor of Osteopathy degree. 
> 
> Interestingly,  at the fabulous Cleveland Clinic where I went for my
> quadruple bypass three years ago my Interventional Cardiologist was a DO and
> my Cardio-Thoracic Surgeon was an MD who worked side by side. (Note: I never
> make Cleveland jokes, any more, as ihe folks in that town saved my life).
> (Double Note: If you have any medical issue other than a hangnail,get thee
> to the Cleveland Clinic. I LOVE that place. The absolute classiest operation
> I have ever seen.
> 
> Happy New Year.
> 
> BenC
> s/v Susan Kay
> 
> Happy New Year 
> 
> Blue Heron wrote:
> > 
> > Elle,
> > 
> > DOs are medical practitioners like MDs, but they go beyond just using
> > medication and surgery.  Yes, DOs do "bone cracking" just like
> > chiropractors.  I've been treated by both (a chiropractor an MD sent me to
> > and DOs). DOs give more relief and it lasts much longer.  Yet the key
> > concept is that a DO works with medication, manipulation and exercise to
> > help the body heal itself.
> > 
> > MDs and DOs used to be competing philosophies of medicine.  That seems to
> > be
> > changing over to cooperation.  For instance, the DO practice I have used
> > for
> > years was just bought by the Cleveland Clinic which is rooted in the MD
> > tradition.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:14 PM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Rick,
> >> Is DO not akin to chiropractic? DO's are MD's, where chiropractors are
> >> not.....
> >> what ws the DO able to do for you (if you don't mind my asking....)elle
> >>
> >> Beer is good....people are crazy
> >>
> >> 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Doggie update
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 11:27 AM
> >>
> >> Elle,
> >>
> >> I did pain management for a year after car accident.  Finally went to a
> >> DO
> >> who fixed the cause of the pain instead of just treating the pain.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Getting this guy to a doc is akin to the rivers reversing course...the
> >> fact
> >> > that I finally got him in to a doc tells volumes...(we are going to a
> >> pain
> >> > management center on Tues...run by the hospital & managed by the
> >> > anesthesiologists...let's hope that will help...
> >> > thanks for all the suggestions....more to come on Jackie!
> >> >
> >> > elle
> >> >
> >> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >> >
> >> > 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> >> >
> >> > --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Doggie update
> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:07 PM
> >> >
> >> > Doctor of Osteopathy.  If I remember correctly, they use a more
> >> holistic
> >> > approach to medicine.
> >> >
> >> > Hank
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:20 PM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hmmmmm..??rather than let my imagination run rampant, what is DO?
> >> > (doctor??
> >> > > ;^)
> >> > > elle
> >> > >
> >> > > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >> > >
> >> > > 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Doggie update
> >> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > > Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 2:48 PM
> >> > >
> >> > > Elle,
> >> > >
> >> > > A DO can fix the BF.
> >> > >
> >> > > Happy New Year to all people and pups.
> >> > >
> >> > > Rick
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:34 AM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi, all,
> >> > > > I'm sure the quiet on the list is due to the revelry in full swing
> >> from
> >> > > > Auckland soon to arrive here....I've rec'd a number of inquiries
> >> about
> >> > > > paralyzed pup & his progress..thought you'd like to see...we have
> >> come
> >> > to
> >> > > > the conclusion that jackie has been afflicted with Coonhound
> >> Paralysis,
> >> > > not
> >> > > > botulism, from a number of factors we have observed and been made
> >> aware
> >> > > of.
> >> > > > the only real difference between the two is that the Coonhound
> >> variety
> >> > > has a
> >> > > > longer recovery period.
> >> > > > Here are two photos ..the first was taken a week afteer we'd
> >> discovered
> >> > > him
> >> > > > paralyzed in the bushes (Nov. 16). Barely holding up the head &
> >> ability
> >> > > to
> >> > > > wag the tip of the tail were the only movements he had ...and
> >> holding
> >> > up
> >> > > his
> >> > > > head for more than a few seconds was a monumental effort.
> >> > > > The second photo was taken just a day or so ago....it's amazing
> >> what
> >> a
> >> > > bit
> >> > > > of food held above his head inspired.
> >> > > > You can see he is diapered (helps half the problem...;^) and you
> >> can
> >> > see
> >> > > > the corral my BF made as he can scooch himself all over the place
> >> > > now....and
> >> > > > I needed to keep him on the tile in the kitchen & not on the
> >> carpet..he
> >> > > just
> >> > > > can't climb over the rail.
> >> > > > To get him to exercise & move around, we would toss a piece of
> >> cookie
> >> > to
> >> > > > the far corner of his enclosure & he'd work & work to get to
> >> > > it...rolling,
> >> > > > pulling the papers with his mouth to get the cookie, etc...no dummy
> >> > here!
> >> > > >  so we'd work him out every day, several times a day. Then we put a
> >> > large
> >> > > > piece of carpet down so he would work his front legs pulling
> >> himself.
> >> > > After
> >> > > > a week or so of that I started to hold him up (60 + lbs!) so that
> >> his
> >> > > front
> >> > > > feet were extended & could get a grip on the carpet. It took a few
> >> days
> >> > > > before he could stand for a few seconds and now he's good for maybe
> >> > 15-20
> >> > > > secs before he goes down...all this in the last week! so now I'm
> >> > working
> >> > > on
> >> > > > the hind legs...he;s strong enough to stand on the front legs while
> >> I
> >> > > hold
> >> > > > up his rear & let a bit of weight rest on his rear legs. After a
> >> few
> >> > days
> >> > > I
> >> > > > think things will 'click.' If you look at the second photo you'll
> >> see
> >> > how
> >> > > > his rear legs just 'fold' back behind him nowbut the right leg
> >> comes
> >> > > >  around properly when he sits high to get that piece of food above
> >> his
> >> > > > head!.
> >> > > > as my BF seriously reinjured his back picking Jackie up(anyone know
> >> > > > anything about the injections into the disk to shrink the disk? ) I
> >> > > rigged
> >> > > > up a sling that enables me to carry jackie w/o injuring myself...I
> >> try
> >> > to
> >> > > > take him outside on nice days..the other dogs 'protect' him & also
> >> play
> >> > > > gently with him, It is a thing to marvel about.
> >> > > > Happy Hplidays & more to come on Jackie !
> >> > > > elle
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
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