[Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
Lou Rosenberg
lsrvideo at optimum.net
Tue May 10 22:07:40 EDT 2011
Welcome to the Rhodes 22 Bill,
I agree , give your daughter the tiller. But more importantly just
use common sense and stay off the lake if it looks like
gusty winds and summer squalls are comin'.
I ve singlehanded my old R22 in 20knots going against the wind, just
a bit of headsail out and motor going full out when she turned and
was beam to the breeze she didn't budge, although you feel she
wants to , the Rhodes is an able boat up to about 30knots. Its not
fun in heavy air my boat doesn't tack that well above 20knts, but
thats probably my own inexperience with that condition.
Enjoy the boat, enjoy the lake, the kids will love the boat and want
to sail her all over!
Safe Sails
Lou
Miracles
Brooklyn NY
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> 4. LOOKING TO BUY USED BIMINI (Lou Rosenberg)
> 5. New Sailor Fears (Bill Pauer)
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> 7. Re: New Sailor Fears (elle)
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> 9. Re: New Sailor Fears (Leland)
> 10. Re: New Sailor Fears (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> 11. Re: New Sailor Fears (John Lock)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 09:27:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rummy and Coke
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
> In our "neck-o the-woods" a rum & diet Coke is ordered as a "Skinny
> Pirate"
> (referring to the Captain Morgan pirate logo).
>
> I like a "Dark & Stormy" made w/ Goslings & birch beer. Some think
> it's too
> sweet but I think it's just right.
>
> BenC
>
>
>
>
> Leland wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> I think that drink is called "Gay on the Down Low."
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>> PBR wrote:
>>>
>>> So here it is, way past my bed time, but kids camping in back
>>> yard so I
>>> have
>>> to stay up to make sure they don't.....whatever. Mixed myself a
>>> jack &
>>> coke
>>> (at least one) ....because I have run out of the dietary variety
>>> I had to
>>> use a REAL coke. So it occurred to me...since I know Rummy and
>>> others are
>>> fans of diet coke as a mixer - I should let you'all know I have
>>> converted
>>> to
>>> Coke Zero. It is made from a stevia derived product that is
>>> apparently
>>> closer to nature than the regular diet stuff. My wife can't
>>> stand it but
>>> I
>>> find it to be much closer to the original and vow to try it with
>>> Mount
>>> Gay
>>> asap. Give it a try Rummy.
>>>
>>> Next up, although I am only a day sailer currently I feel
>>> compelled to
>>> help
>>> the rhodes list evaluate and compare box wines as they seem well
>>> matched
>>> for
>>> cruising.
>>>
>>> -PBR
>>> __________________________________________________
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:26:51 -0400
> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rummy and Coke
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Goslings has trademarked "Dark & Stormy" and it MUST be made with
> Goslings Black Seal and Gosling's Stormy Ginger Beer (of course).
> However, if you want to defy the corporate choke-hold you can use
> Reed's or Barritt's ginger beer.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On May 9, 2011, at 12:27, BenCittadino wrote:
>>
>> In our "neck-o the-woods" a rum & diet Coke is ordered as a
>> "Skinny Pirate"
>> (referring to the Captain Morgan pirate logo).
>>
>> I like a "Dark & Stormy" made w/ Goslings & birch beer. Some think
>> it's too
>> sweet but I think it's just right.
>>
>> BenC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Leland wrote:
>>>
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> I think that drink is called "Gay on the Down Low."
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>>> PBR wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So here it is, way past my bed time, but kids camping in back
>>>> yard so I
>>>> have
>>>> to stay up to make sure they don't.....whatever. Mixed myself a
>>>> jack &
>>>> coke
>>>> (at least one) ....because I have run out of the dietary variety
>>>> I had to
>>>> use a REAL coke. So it occurred to me...since I know Rummy and
>>>> others are
>>>> fans of diet coke as a mixer - I should let you'all know I have
>>>> converted
>>>> to
>>>> Coke Zero. It is made from a stevia derived product that is
>>>> apparently
>>>> closer to nature than the regular diet stuff. My wife can't
>>>> stand it but
>>>> I
>>>> find it to be much closer to the original and vow to try it with
>>>> Mount
>>>> Gay
>>>> asap. Give it a try Rummy.
>>>>
>>>> Next up, although I am only a day sailer currently I feel
>>>> compelled to
>>>> help
>>>> the rhodes list evaluate and compare box wines as they seem well
>>>> matched
>>>> for
>>>> cruising.
>>>>
>>>> -PBR
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>> archives go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rummy and Coke
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> John;
>
> Of course you're right, it's ginger beer, not Birch beer. I didn't
> know
> Goslings had trademarked the drink though. ...and they complain
> this list
> isn't educational......pshaw...!!!
>
> BenC
>
> jlock wrote:
>>
>> Goslings has trademarked "Dark & Stormy" and it MUST be made with
>> Goslings
>> Black Seal and Gosling's Stormy Ginger Beer (of course). However,
>> if you
>> want to defy the corporate choke-hold you can use Reed's or Barritt's
>> ginger beer.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2011, at 12:27, BenCittadino wrote:
>>>
>>> In our "neck-o the-woods" a rum & diet Coke is ordered as a "Skinny
>>> Pirate"
>>> (referring to the Captain Morgan pirate logo).
>>>
>>> I like a "Dark & Stormy" made w/ Goslings & birch beer. Some
>>> think it's
>>> too
>>> sweet but I think it's just right.
>>>
>>> BenC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Leland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> I think that drink is called "Gay on the Down Low."
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PBR wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So here it is, way past my bed time, but kids camping in back
>>>>> yard so I
>>>>> have
>>>>> to stay up to make sure they don't.....whatever. Mixed myself
>>>>> a jack &
>>>>> coke
>>>>> (at least one) ....because I have run out of the dietary
>>>>> variety I had
>>>>> to
>>>>> use a REAL coke. So it occurred to me...since I know Rummy and
>>>>> others
>>>>> are
>>>>> fans of diet coke as a mixer - I should let you'all know I have
>>>>> converted
>>>>> to
>>>>> Coke Zero. It is made from a stevia derived product that is
>>>>> apparently
>>>>> closer to nature than the regular diet stuff. My wife can't
>>>>> stand it
>>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>> find it to be much closer to the original and vow to try it
>>>>> with Mount
>>>>> Gay
>>>>> asap. Give it a try Rummy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next up, although I am only a day sailer currently I feel
>>>>> compelled to
>>>>> help
>>>>> the rhodes list evaluate and compare box wines as they seem well
>>>>> matched
>>>>> for
>>>>> cruising.
>>>>>
>>>>> -PBR
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>>> archives
>>>>> go
>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 19:36:41 -0400
> From: Lou Rosenberg <lsrvideo at optimum.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] LOOKING TO BUY USED BIMINI
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Rhodies
>
> Im looking to buy a used Bimini for my R22 if anyone knows of one...
> frame is the most important will consider one thats ripped or needs
> new fabric.
>
> Lou
> s/v Miracles
> Brooklyn
> NY
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:54:00 -0400
> From: Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Hello, Everyone,
>
> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a
> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month ago). I
> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for the
> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew. I have a
> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son. While we don't
> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing
> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed
> for many years making it up as I went along. The trouble I am having
> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to
> capsize. I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly
> sure that is not the case. I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes
> 22" on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will
> not capsize while under sail.
> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might
> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and sinking
> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Bill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 22:05:11 -0400
> From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTikVpmUubd0Ze=ppXMxgm0oFPHoaWQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Bill. Welcome. I can attest that even when making rookie
> mistakes you
> can scare the crew but not capsize the boat. You'll hear more from
> others
> on the list. The best way I found with my daughter was to give her
> the
> tiller.
>
> Where will you be sailing?
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, Everyone,
>>
>> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a
>> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month
>> ago). I
>> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for
>> the
>> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew. I have a
>> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son. While we don't
>> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing
>> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed
>> for many years making it up as I went along. The trouble I am having
>> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to
>> capsize. I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly
>> sure that is not the case. I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes
>> 22" on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will
>> not capsize while under sail.
>> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might
>> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and
>> sinking
>> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Bill
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
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>> archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <149352.18382.qm at web113505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi, Bill,
> Congrats & welcome to 'da list.' we're a fine group of folk, (much
> to our dismay ?;^) who are willing to step in w/advice and drink
> mixes.
> I was once the world's chickenest sailor..I loved it but was
> terrified most of the time. So, In answer to your query, I have
> several things you can tell him.... ?I was always convinced that I
> was going to capsize in our previous boats..all larger than my R22.
> It was Steve Pettingill, I believe, who years ago patiently
> explained to me that the wind will push the boat over just so far
> and then the wind will spill over the top of the sail. (Just don't
> tell him about knockdowns yet.)?
> You can also show him how you can lower the main by lowering the
> boom & closing the poptop. The BEST single thing you can do (IMHO)
> is go out on gentle days at first & give him the main sheet. Show
> him how to release it if he feels uncomfortable...you won't go
> anywhere...but he'll feel in control & that will help with his
> unease.?
> Good luck & keep us posted.
> elle
>
> Beer is good....people are crazy
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
>
> --- On Mon, 5/9/11, Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 9:54 PM
>
> Hello, Everyone,
>
> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a?
> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month
> ago).? I?
> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for
> the?
> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew.? I have a?
> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son.? While we don't?
> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing?
> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed?
> for many years making it up as I went along.? The trouble I am having?
> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to?
> capsize.? I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly?
> sure that is not the case.? I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes?
> 22"? on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will?
> not capsize while under sail.
> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might?
> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and
> sinking?
> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Bill
> __________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 22:43:16 -0400
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
> Bill,
>
> The best cure for fear of capsize is to capsize. If your wife
> taught small
> boat handling, she knows that. If your son can swim, get him in a
> small
> boat and practice capsizing it.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, Everyone,
>>
>> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a
>> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month
>> ago). I
>> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for
>> the
>> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew. I have a
>> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son. While we don't
>> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing
>> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed
>> for many years making it up as I went along. The trouble I am having
>> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to
>> capsize. I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly
>> sure that is not the case. I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes
>> 22" on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will
>> not capsize while under sail.
>> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might
>> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and
>> sinking
>> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Bill
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>> archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 03:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <31584510.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Welcome to you and your family!
>
> If you have no sails out and no PFD run up to the top of the mast,
> the boat
> might be able to capsize if a big wave hit the boat broadside. I
> mean like
> a really BIG ocean wave. Wind can't capsize it but it can
> certainly scare
> the heck out of you the first few times the boat heels over at an
> uncomfortable angle.
>
> Once you can convince your son that the boat won't capsize, the
> best thing
> to do is try to make it capsize. Tell your son that it's like a tame
> amusement park ride. My son, now 20, and his friends don't even
> like to go
> out now unless they can bury the rail.
>
> Don't know if you want to share the following story with your kids
> but in it
> the boat didn't capsize and the gusts were over 50 mph.
>
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p31584510/Sail%2BMagazine%2BArticle-4.doc
> Sail+Magazine+Article-4.doc
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
> Hello, Everyone,
>
> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a
> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month ago). I
> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for the
> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew. I have a
> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son. While we don't
> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing
> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed
> for many years making it up as I went along. The trouble I am having
> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to
> capsize. I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly
> sure that is not the case. I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes
> 22" on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will
> not capsize while under sail.
> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might
> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and sinking
> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Bill
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> archives go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:49:37 -0400 (EDT)
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <3bacc.10721ebe.3afa9c71 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Bill,
> As you sail your new boat you will understand why the R22 is the
> perfect
> family boat. In heavy wind, the hull will only heal so far and then
> the
> rudder leaves the water and you round up into the wind. No harm no
> foul. It's
> built into the design of the boat.
> Now, that being said, with enough rail meat, thirty mph winds and
> alcohol
> thrown into the mix, I actually have been able to lay Rum Runner on
> her
> side with the mast in the water. It's a long story and I won't bore
> you with
> the details. The important thing is that we were able to right the
> boat
> easily and continue sailing. We ended up with about fifty gallons
> of water in
> the bilge which we easily pumped out with an electric pump. Only
> damage was
> we lost three rum and cokes and one pack of cigarettes. The
> interior dried
> out in a day or so and no damage anywhere. Remember, the Rhodes
> has positive
> flotation built into it. That means that you can fill the hull
> with water
> and she won't sink. I have pictures somewhere of Stan actually
> testing the
> positive flotation by trying to sink a hull.
> Comfort will come the more time your children spend on the boat. My
> wife
> was afraid at first, primarily because she never considered herself
> a good
> swimmer. Now she's the first one up on the gunnels when we need
> rail meat.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 5/9/2011 9:54:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> billpauer at gmail.com writes:
>
> Hello, Everyone,
>
> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a
> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month
> ago). I
> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for
> the
> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew. I have a
> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son. While we don't
> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing
> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed
> for many years making it up as I went along. The trouble I am having
> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to
> capsize. I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly
> sure that is not the case. I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes
> 22" on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will
> not capsize while under sail.
> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might
> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and
> sinking
> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Bill
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:24:10 -0400
> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <07B3CA33-E39A-41B2-92BA-A12FDA8EC568 at relevantarts.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi Bill and welcome!
>
> I am in much the same place as you, except it's my wife who is
> afraid of capsizing. You've heard the best advice from others -
> give your son some measure of control via the tiller or mainsheet.
> Take him out when there's enough wind to work with, but not enough
> to be work. Let him experiment with different heeling angles,
> finding the comfort zone, and pushing the edges when he wants to.
> He's a teenager, it's built in.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On May 9, 2011, at 21:54, Bill Pauer wrote:
>> Hello, Everyone,
>>
>> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a
>> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month
>> ago). I
>> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for
>> the
>> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew. I have a
>> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son. While we don't
>> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing
>> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed
>> for many years making it up as I went along. The trouble I am having
>> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to
>> capsize. I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly
>> sure that is not the case. I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes
>> 22" on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will
>> not capsize while under sail.
>> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might
>> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and
>> sinking
>> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Bill
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/
>> listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sailor Fears
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <31586143.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Welcome Bill;
>
> One more thought....I have come to the conclusion that the only
> real danger
> which comes from the boat heeling is "man overboard". I sail in a
> bay open
> to the ocean and have adopted an "everybody wears a life jacket all
> the
> time" policy. This is a tough rule to enforce on hot days in calm
> weather in
> the summer but I am the Captain and it is enforced. With the risks
> attendant
> to boom swings hitting heads, wakes from large vessels, and other
> unforeseen
> hazards I just feel better knowing nobody will slip beneath the
> waves into
> Davy Jones' locker without giving me a chance to come about and
> pick them
> up.
>
> The good news is that they make some very comfortable non-bulky
> life jackets
> now. Your kids will definitely complain about wearing flotation
> devices,
> especially after they get a little confidence.
>
> Practice "man overboard" maneuvers under sail until you get really
> good at
> it.
>
> Oh yeah...have fun too.
>
> Best,
>
> BenC
>
>
>
>
> bill pauer wrote:
>>
>> Hello, Everyone,
>>
>> My family and I are the proud new owners of our first Rhodes 22 (a
>> 1980 Rhodes which you may have seen on the list about a month
>> ago). I
>> am working on a list of mechanical questions for the list, but for
>> the
>> moment I was hoping for some help with one of my crew. I have a
>> twelve year old daughter and fourteen year old son. While we don't
>> have much sailing experience as a family, my wife has had sailing
>> lessons and has actually instructed on small boats and I have sailed
>> for many years making it up as I went along. The trouble I am having
>> is convincing my fourteen year old son that the boat is not going to
>> capsize. I would like to say that it can't happen, but I am fairly
>> sure that is not the case. I did read in "The Report on the Rhodes
>> 22" on Stan's site that because of the flared sides, the boat will
>> not capsize while under sail.
>> Does anyone have a story that I could share with my son that might
>> instill some confidence that the chances of turning turtle and
>> sinking
>> to the bottom of the lake are slim to none?
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Bill
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>> archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>>
>
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> Fears-tp31582138p31586143.html
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:24:42 -0400
> From: "Claude Cox" <ccc974 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My apologies to the list; here are the
> items for sale
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <003301cc0f26$62f06f80$0202a8c0 at DBMCXV81>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Good Morning, Carl;
>
> The sail bags are on the way--via UPS. I believe they said a Friday
> delivery. The shipping charges are 13.58; make the check payable
> to Claude
> C. Cox; address is
> 2642 Weigelia Road
> Atlanta, GA 30345
>
> Thanks for the offer of a sail, and I may be able to take you up
> on that.
> I am from Oklahoma, and have family in Oklahoma City. Where are
> you in
> relation to Little Rock? Judging from the name--Mountain View--I
> would
> guess the NE--Ouachita Mtns. maybe. Where do you sail? Hope we
> can meet up
> sometime. for now, best wishes, and
>
> Fair Winds,
> Claude
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bladerunner12345" <cgeisser12345 at gmail.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My apologies to the list; here are the
> items
> for sale
>
>
>>
>> I would love to have the pop top enclosure, but have done about
>> all the
>> boat
>> outfitting I can afford at the moment. :( maybe get one someday.
>> I am interested in the sailbags as well though if you still have
>> them,
>> been
>> keeping mine in an old lined canvas bag, doesn't breath well, let
>> me know
>> want for shipping.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> Claude Cox wrote:
>>>
>>> When you open the email, enlarge it, or it will look like I was
>>> too much
>>> into the Mt. Gay.
>>>
>>> Item Pg.
>>> # in
>>> 2011 WM Catalog Sale Price
>>>
>>> 1) Aqua-Signal Masthead
>>> Light 446
>>> 30.00
>>>
>>> 2) Anchor Marine 30-piece Marina
>>> Grade Crimp Kit (with crimping/striping tool) ?
>>> 10.00
>>>
>>> 3) WM 2-Amp Battery Maintainer 391
>>> 25.00
>>>
>>> 4) Ancor Primary Wire (on spool)
>>> 14 AWG, black, 18' (2)
>>> 419 10.00 ea
>>>
>>> or 2/15.00
>>>
>>> 5) WM Liquid Electrical Tape
>>> 4 oz. container w/applicator
>>> ? 5.00
>>>
>>> 6) 12V Receptical, single
>>> 413 5.00
>>>
>>> 7) Guest Battery Charger, Model #2611A
>>> 10 Amp output
>>> 390 50.00
>>>
>>> 8) Pop Top Enclosure; good condition, in bag (includes mosquito
>>> netting)
>>> (purchased from another R22 owner, but never used
>>> 150.00
>>>
>>> 9) Drink Holder Plus (2)
>>> 840
>>> (similar to Model #1203009, but will clamp onto stern pulpit)
>>> 5.00 ea
>>>
>>> or 2/7.50
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>> archives go
>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
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>> for-sale-tp31568305p31568964.html
>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>> __________________________________________________
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>>
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>> archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:42:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: bladerunner12345 <cgeisser12345 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My apologies to the list; here are the
> items for sale
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <31586697.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Check will be in mail today.
> We are located about 90 mi. north of Little Rock, next to a little
> town
> called Fox.
> We usually sail on Greers ferry lake, we are located about 30 mi
> north of
> the lake, I also want to sail norfork lake this summer, have not in
> years
> past. We keep the boat at home for the time being, want to get a slip
> eventually, but for working on the boat, it is best to have it at
> home.
>
> Thanks again,
> Carl Geisser
>
> Claude Cox wrote:
>>
>> Good Morning, Carl;
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the offer of a sail, and I may be able to take you up
>> on that.
>> I am from Oklahoma, and have family in Oklahoma City. Where are
>> you in
>> relation to Little Rock? Judging from the name--Mountain View--I
>> would
>> guess the NE--Ouachita Mtns. maybe. Where do you sail? Hope we
>> can meet
>> up
>> sometime. for now, best wishes, and
>>
>> Fair Winds,
>> Claude
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "bladerunner12345" <cgeisser12345 at gmail.com>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My apologies to the list; here are
>> the items
>> for sale
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I would love to have the pop top enclosure, but have done about
>>> all the
>>> boat
>>> outfitting I can afford at the moment. :( maybe get one someday.
>>> I am interested in the sailbags as well though if you still have
>>> them,
>>> been
>>> keeping mine in an old lined canvas bag, doesn't breath well, let
>>> me know
>>> want for shipping.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> Claude Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When you open the email, enlarge it, or it will look like I was
>>>> too much
>>>> into the Mt. Gay.
>>>>
>>>> Item
>>>> Pg. # in
>>>> 2011 WM Catalog Sale Price
>>>>
>>>> 1) Aqua-Signal Masthead
>>>> Light 446
>>>> 30.00
>>>>
>>>> 2) Anchor Marine 30-piece Marina
>>>> Grade Crimp Kit (with crimping/striping
>>>> tool) ?
>>>> 10.00
>>>>
>>>> 3) WM 2-Amp Battery Maintainer
>>>> 391
>>>> 25.00
>>>>
>>>> 4) Ancor Primary Wire (on spool)
>>>> 14 AWG, black, 18' (2)
>>>> 419 10.00 ea
>>>>
>>>> or 2/15.00
>>>>
>>>> 5) WM Liquid Electrical Tape
>>>> 4 oz. container w/applicator
>>>> ? 5.00
>>>>
>>>> 6) 12V Receptical, single
>>>> 413 5.00
>>>>
>>>> 7) Guest Battery Charger, Model #2611A
>>>> 10 Amp output
>>>> 390 50.00
>>>>
>>>> 8) Pop Top Enclosure; good condition, in bag (includes mosquito
>>>> netting)
>>>> (purchased from another R22 owner, but never used
>>>> 150.00
>>>>
>>>> 9) Drink Holder Plus (2)
>>>> 840
>>>> (similar to Model #1203009, but will clamp onto stern pulpit)
>>>> 5.00 ea
>>>>
>>>> or 2/7.50
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>> archives
>>>> go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> items-for-sale-tp31568305p31568964.html
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>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> archives go
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>>
>> __________________________________________________
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>
>
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