[Rhodes22-list] Harry Gamble's Question
harry gamble
hgamblejr at usa.net
Sun Oct 9 21:23:39 EDT 2011
I'm also not down until November. I'll try to call you. I'd like to see your
new boat as mine is well worn by now.
Harry
------ Original Message ------
Received: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 06:06:21 PM CDT
From: Geoff Farrell <geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Harry Gamble's Question
I purchased a new boat from Stan last Jan. and he bottom-painted it. Not
sure where I will do it next but a Gulf Shores friend has his sailboat
bottom painted at a place in Fairhope AL where he says they do great work.
He sails there for the work. That would be a great sail for you. I don't
remember what the name of the place is but I can find out when I return to
GS in November. If you decide to do it let me know if you need crew, and, my
wife could pick us up in Fairhope. Geoff
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, harry gamble <hgamblejr at usa.net> wrote:
> Thanks Geoff. I may take you up on that, but I will still need a permanent
> trailer. Where do you have the bottom painted, or do you do it yourself?
>
> ------ Original Message ------received: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:40:00 PM CDT
> From: Geoff Farrell <geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Harry Gamble's Question
>
> Hello Harry. I'm just down the street in Gulf Shores AL. I normally have my
> boat in its slip
> from around Jan. through May. During this time it would be available if you
> would like to borrow it for short periods to transport your boat to a
> marina, etc. This probably won't work if you want to store your boat on the
> trailer because the trailer is my safety net in case of inclement weather,
> pier work in my marina, emergency service, etc. But, if you simply need to
> haul your boat out, drop it off at a marina, and then return the trailer we
> could probably work something out. When your boat is ready you could come
> get the trailer, launch your boat, and return the trailer.
>
> This might be cumbersome for you but may help you in a pinch until you can
> locate a trailer of your own. Geoff
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:47 PM, harry gamble <hgamblejr at usa.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm new to this list, and I'm not sure what I am sending will get
> anywhere.
> >
> > Anyway, my Rhodes 22 is in the water on Soldiers Creek off Perdido Bay
> near
> > Orange Beach Alabama. Fortunately it escaped the BP oil spill which did
> not
> > reach that far into the Bay. It stays in the water most of the time, but
> I
> > need to haul it out periodically for bottom painting or other work, and
> > possibly during hurricanes. I do not have a trailer, and I need one.
> >
> > First, does anyone know of the availbility of a trailer anywhere near me?
> > New
> > Bern, NC is a long haul. Second, if not, does anyone have any advice on
> how
> > to
> > convert a standard V-hull trailer to fit the Rhodes? Again, I won't use
> it
> > much, and then only for short hauls on back roads.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Harry Gamble
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > Received: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:36:07 AM CDT
> > From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
> >
> > WE OVERCAME THE PROBLEM OF THE FURLING LINE SLIPPING UNDER THE BASEPLATE
> > AND
> > WINDING UP ON THE FORESTAY DRUM &TUBE IN REVERSE BY TYING A TAUT 1/8"
> LINE
> > ACROSS FROM BOTTOM OF PULPIT SIDES ACROSS THE JIB FURLING LINE TO KEEP
> THE
> > JIB
> > LINE LOW ENOUGH SO IT WINDS UP PROPERLY ON THE DRUM; HOPE THAT THIS WAS
> > WHAT
> > YOU WERE REFERRING TO.
> >
> > RIGGING, BACK STAYS, AND TRAVELER WERE SIMPLIFIED ON STAN'S OLDER BOAT
> > DESIGNS
> > AS THEY ARE ON OUR '83. FEWER POTENTIAL PROBLEMS.
> >
> > ALAN & BARBARA ROBERTSON -THOR IV
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stephen Staum<mailto:snstaum at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
> >
> >
> > I agree w/ Chris on the viability of the old simple system. I lost 2
> > forestays (one broke under sail, the other just frayed) before learning
> of
> > the need to keep constant tension on the rigging. As long as your aft
> > stays
> >
> > are pulled tight w the tensioner, the forestay lasts for many years.
> >
> > The beauty of the old system is that it never jams. As long as you
> don't
> > allow the furling line to unravel and slip under the baseplate (let it
> > slide
> >
> > through you fingers as you open the genny rather than just let it go)
> you
> > never have to go forward to mess with it. Simple is often better.
> >
> > Sail more, fix less.
> >
> > Stephen Staum
> > 87 R22, Carol Lee
> > Needham, MA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Geankoplis
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:19 AM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
> >
> > Slim has a good point; the usual breaking point is where it is swaged,
> the
> > result of a bend or kink when putting up the mast. This area needs to
> be
> > examined carefully. Fortunately you can just slide the tube up to
> examine
> > the fitting. I have not had a failure in 35 years except for the kinked
> > end
> > 30 years ago. That doesn't mean it won't happen sooner. Also I usually
> > replace my rigging about every 12 years, mostly before a big adventure.
> > When I examined the forestays I did not see any untwisting, but a poorly
> > installed bushing or too long securing screw at the head of the sail
> could
> > easily cause such a failure. If you have the money you can't go wrong
> > with
> > a Flex Furl like Slim's. If not, a bit of common sense and caution will
> > make the tube method a reasonable choice under the circumstances.
> > Chris G
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Slim Chance
> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:37 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
> >
> > I believe there to be a flaw in this system. One that I discovered only
> > after my fore stay broke. The twisting of the tube over the stay can
> > cause
> > the stay to unwind, wind and unwind over and over rendering it weakened.
> > Since you can't inspect the wire stay unless you take it all apart every
> > so
> > often -- and none of us do that -- you'll never know 'til it's too late.
> I
> > replaced with the Flex Furl that I think is now common on most newer
> > models.
> > Slim
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Dennis Frappier
> > <dennisf at maine.rr.com>wrote<mailto:dennisf at maine.rr.com%3Ewrote>:
> >
> > > Dear Chris,
> > > I got the furler pictures, thanks a bundle. Are there pieces of HDPE
> > under
> > > the disc that keeps it a few inches off the deck and out of the
> > attachment
> > > at the bow?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Dennis Frappier
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> > Geankoplis
> > > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:28 AM
> > > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
> > >
> > > D'OH! Thanks Hank,
> > > Let me try this again. It is an illustrated document maybe it got
> > > scrubbed.
> > > Just to be safe I'll attach just the pictures also.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<mailto:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:33 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > Doesn't look like the pics attached.
> > >
> > > Hank
> > > On Sep 18, 2011 11:06 PM, "Chris Geankoplis"
> > <napoli68 at charter.net<mailto:napoli68 at charter.net>> wrote:
> > > > Dennis,
> > > >
> > > > Attached are some picts of the old Aluminum tube furling jib
> > > > arrangement. It is a simple piece of equipment with one moving part.
> > The
> > > > bushings at the bottom and top are easy to fabricate out of HDPE or
> > > similar
> > > > type of plastic. Sometimes the disk may need a bit of welding to
> > reattach
> > > > it to the tube if bad things happen to it. Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris G
> > > >
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