[Rhodes22-list] Mast Step Popped

Tue Sep 13 10:28:38 EDT 2011

Rick,
Yes, you want to use something that will shear off.  I believe 3M 4200 is the preferred product.  You want something that can be disassembled (i.e., will break loose) if need be.  If you think about it, you only want the screws and adhesive to keep the mast step stationary while there is some horizontal force on it when the mast is first raised.  - rob

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-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Step Popped

Rummy,

I did this repair using epoxy.  The subsequent tear-off of the plate caused
extensive damage, including a crack that ran all the way to a cabin rail.

Are you sure Stan uses epoxy?  I suspect he uses something with shear
strength more approaching wood.  Plus, the underlying wood can't have rot
and there can't be any voids between the wood and gelcoat.

Rick

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:

> Rick,
> I'm not sure where you are going with this. The repair that has been
>  mentio
> ned has been done by many Rhodies over the years. It is the best way to
> repair the step. It is the repair that Stan uses at the factory.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 9/12/2011 11:08:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>
> David,
>
> Your problem won't be the epoxy holding with careful  raising and lower of
> your mast.  Your problem will be the damage done  by the epoxy when you
> have
> another mishap.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, Sep  12, 2011 at 9:08 PM, David Craft <Chsyhkr at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > I was raising the mast from  the back using the crutch that hangs off the
> > transom.
> >
> >  As we started to raise the mast, we realized we need to manuever the
>  jib
> > around a shroud.   He set the mast down on back rail and  not back in the
> > crutch.  It was enough leverage, with the pop top  acting as a fulcrum to
> > pop
> > the plate off.
> >
> > I  drilled out the holes today.  The wood is damp but not  deteriorating.
>  I
> > think it treated Southern Yellow Pine.  It  will be dry for a week here,
> > enough time for it dry well before  repairing.  The glass is intact,
> except
> > for one spot around the  fore screw.  A quarter size piece, about half
> the
> > thickness  popped out.
> >
> > I think the epoxy repair should last for a good  while with careful
> raising
> > and lowering......
> >
> > David  Craft
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob Lowe wrote:
> > >
> >  > David,
> > > Was this when you were raising or lowering the  mast?  Which direction
> to
> > > you lower to?  - rob
> >  >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Craft
> >  > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:45 PM
> > > To: Rhodes  List
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Step Popped
> >  >
> > > While setting our mast at a local lake the mast step popped  off with
> the
> > > screws somewhat stripped.  We reset it and  raised it carefully
> figuring
> > > that
> > > the weight would  help hold it.
> > >
> > > While taking it down, it popped again,  necessitating the repair I
> > expected
> > > when it popped the  first time.
> > >
> > > The boat is a 89, recycled in  08.
> > >
> > > The step is secured with three 1 inch  screws.   I am thinking of
> drilling
> > > out the holes,  repairing with epoxy,  drilling new pilot holes, and
> > >  resetting.   I have heard suggestions from inserting lugs to  drilling
> all
> > > the way through and using bolts and nuts.  The  wall for the head is a
> > > support below the step, so drilling  through is not advisable.  Can
> longer
> > > screws be  used?
> > >
> > > Advice is appreciated as I need to make this  repair in the next two
> > weeks.
> > >
> > > --
> >  > Regards,
> > >
> > > David B. Craft
> > >  Greensboro, NC
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