[Rhodes22-list] Mast Step Popped

Rick sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Tue Sep 13 11:18:12 EDT 2011 

May Louu,

Maybe short screws in epoxy is the key.  Really short screws.  I used the
original screws.

Rick

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>wrote:

> I suspect we are talking about two different things. Stan uses
> relatively short wood screws screwed into already hardened epoxy. If
> you fill the holes, let it harden and then put in the screws, they
> should provide enough resistance to keeping the mast in place for
> ordinary raising and lowering and yet should pull out if there are
> unusual forces placed on it by a botched raising or lowering process.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 09:40 AM 9/13/2011, you wrote:
> >Rummy,
> >
> >I did this repair using epoxy.  The subsequent tear-off of the plate
> caused
> >extensive damage, including a crack that ran all the way to a cabin rail.
> >
> >Are you sure Stan uses epoxy?  I suspect he uses something with shear
> >strength more approaching wood.  Plus, the underlying wood can't have rot
> >and there can't be any voids between the wood and gelcoat.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Rick,
> > > I'm not sure where you are going with this. The repair that has been
> > >  mentio
> > > ned has been done by many Rhodies over the years. It is the best way to
> > > repair the step. It is the repair that Stan uses at the factory.
> > >
> > > Rummy
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 9/12/2011 11:08:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Your problem won't be the epoxy holding with careful  raising and lower
> of
> > > your mast.  Your problem will be the damage done  by the epoxy when you
> > > have
> > > another mishap.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep  12, 2011 at 9:08 PM, David Craft <Chsyhkr at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob,
> > > >
> > > > I was raising the mast from  the back using the crutch that hangs off
> the
> > > > transom.
> > > >
> > > >  As we started to raise the mast, we realized we need to manuever the
> > >  jib
> > > > around a shroud.   He set the mast down on back rail and  not back in
> the
> > > > crutch.  It was enough leverage, with the pop top  acting as a
> fulcrum to
> > > > pop
> > > > the plate off.
> > > >
> > > > I  drilled out the holes today.  The wood is damp but not
>  deteriorating.
> > >  I
> > > > think it treated Southern Yellow Pine.  It  will be dry for a week
> here,
> > > > enough time for it dry well before  repairing.  The glass is intact,
> > > except
> > > > for one spot around the  fore screw.  A quarter size piece, about
> half
> > > the
> > > > thickness  popped out.
> > > >
> > > > I think the epoxy repair should last for a good  while with careful
> > > raising
> > > > and lowering......
> > > >
> > > > David  Craft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob Lowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >  > David,
> > > > > Was this when you were raising or lowering the  mast?  Which
> direction
> > > to
> > > > > you lower to?  - rob
> > > >  >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > >  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David
> Craft
> > > >  > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:45 PM
> > > > > To: Rhodes  List
> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Step Popped
> > > >  >
> > > > > While setting our mast at a local lake the mast step popped  off
> with
> > > the
> > > > > screws somewhat stripped.  We reset it and  raised it carefully
> > > figuring
> > > > > that
> > > > > the weight would  help hold it.
> > > > >
> > > > > While taking it down, it popped again,  necessitating the repair I
> > > > expected
> > > > > when it popped the  first time.
> > > > >
> > > > > The boat is a 89, recycled in  08.
> > > > >
> > > > > The step is secured with three 1 inch  screws.   I am thinking of
> > > drilling
> > > > > out the holes,  repairing with epoxy,  drilling new pilot holes,
> and
> > > > >  resetting.   I have heard suggestions from inserting lugs to
>  drilling
> > > all
> > > > > the way through and using bolts and nuts.  The  wall for the head
> is a
> > > > > support below the step, so drilling  through is not advisable.  Can
> > > longer
> > > > > screws be  used?
> > > > >
> > > > > Advice is appreciated as I need to make this  repair in the next
> two
> > > > weeks.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > >  > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > David B. Craft
> > > > >  Greensboro, NC
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