[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1
Stephen Staum
snstaum at gmail.com
Fri Aug 17 22:21:22 EDT 2012
I would never have thought of the table socket.
Thanks, Stephen
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 17, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ken Bates <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:
> Stephan
> I got a lot in through the table leg socket in the cocpit . The die
> casting corroded and cracked rain soaked the foam and wound up in
> the bilge
> Ken
> (if I could splell!)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
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>> 1. Re: V Berth redo (Stephen Staum)
>> 2. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>> 3. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
>> 4. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>> 5. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Lowe, Rob)
>> 6. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>> 7. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Michael D. Weisner)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:50:01 -0400
>> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <888CF65BF2264EEC8C6A96FA9B3146FF at DadsLaptop>
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>>
>> My old '87 did not have pegboard, just carpet and it looked good.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bill Pauer
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:41 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
>>
>> Has anyone seen a v berth without the pegboard? I am redoing the
>> interior of our Rhodes and considering just running carpet up the
>> sides of v berth. Any thoughts?
>> Thanks
>> Bill
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:57:38 -0400
>> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>>
>> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and
>> I suspect
>> the problem is the centerboard cap seal. I am pulling the boat
>> today for
>> further inspection. Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>> instruction
>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal? Looking at it, I
>> am not
>> even sure how to get to it. I assume that the step has to be
>> removed first.
>> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
>> removed.
>> Anyone have additional pictures of the project? Or any theories on
>> how lots
>> of water is getting into the bilge? This boat has no hatches that
>> open.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Stephen Staum
>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>> Needham, MA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:15:09 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Message-ID: <862d9.61fc1c7b.3d5f8fcd at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>> make sure
>> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently that
>> boats on a mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>> storms. The cap is
>> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that
>> this isn't
>> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you
>> can
>> determine the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak
>> while in the
>> water rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that
>> isn't the
>> problem. If no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for
>> a ride
>> and see if you can get water to enter while motoring around. Also,
>> check to
>> see if any of the bolts holding the cap together can be tightened
>> a little
>> bit.
>> To remove the cap will require the removal of the step and then the
>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using
>> any gasket
>> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM
>> rubber which
>> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be
>> cleaned with
>> gasoline or other solvents.
>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I
>> suspect
>> the problem is the centerboard cap seal. I am pulling the boat
>> today for
>> further inspection. Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>> instruction
>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal? Looking at it,
>> I am not
>> even sure how to get to it. I assume that the step has to be
>> removed
>> first.
>> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
>> removed.
>> Anyone have additional pictures of the project? Or any theories
>> on how
>> lots
>> of water is getting into the bilge? This boat has no hatches that
>> open.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Stephen Staum
>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>> Needham, MA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:38:53 -0400
>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <EDFFF193-3283-40DA-9C6B-CF448E8584DF at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed;
>> delsp=yes
>>
>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing Tuesday
>> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water. Promptly
>> pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back. Pumped the
>> bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up to carpet
>> in
>> cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/ Wed morning.
>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what it
>> looks like this A.M.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>>> make sure
>>> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently
>>> that
>>> boats on a mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>>> storms. The cap is
>>> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that this
>>> isn't
>>> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you
>>> can
>>> determine the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak
>>> while in the
>>> water rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that
>>> isn't the
>>> problem. If no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for
>>> a ride
>>> and see if you can get water to enter while motoring around. Also,
>>> check to
>>> see if any of the bolts holding the cap together can be tightened a
>>> little
>>> bit.
>>> To remove the cap will require the removal of the step and then the
>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any
>>> gasket
>>> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM
>>> rubber which
>>> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be cleaned
>>> with
>>> gasoline or other solvents.
>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
>>> and I
>>> suspect
>>> the problem is the centerboard cap seal. I am pulling the boat
>>> today for
>>> further inspection. Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>>> instruction
>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal? Looking at it, I
>>> am not
>>> even sure how to get to it. I assume that the step has to be
>>> removed
>>> first.
>>> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
>>> removed.
>>> Anyone have additional pictures of the project? Or any theories on
>>> how
>>> lots
>>> of water is getting into the bilge? This boat has no hatches that
>>> open.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Stephen Staum
>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>> Needham, MA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:59:47 -0400
>> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B34A002040AB at rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
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>>
>> Stephen,
>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain
>> was under water. No problem with that, depending on weight
>> distribution on your boat. With four people on my boat and the
>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from
>> the cockpit drain to the through hull. Open the laz and take a
>> look at the hose. Get your head down in there and take a good
>> look. The hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose
>> clamps. Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would
>> look at those before messing with the cap. And how about the
>> through hull for the sink drain? Any way water can come in through
>> that? - rob
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>
>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing
>> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water
>> up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday
>> nite/ Wed morning.
>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what
>> it looks like this A.M.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>>> make
>>> sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen
>>> recently
>>> that boats on a mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>>> storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over
>>> the years that this isn't always the case. I would recommend
>>> drying it
>>> out and seeing if you can determine the entry point. It's a whole
>>> lot
>>> easier to find a leak while in the water rather than a tear down
>>> and
>>> reinstalling the cap if that isn't the problem. If no water enters
>>> while on the mooring, take her out for a ride and see if you can
>>> get
>>> water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of
>>> the
>>> bolts holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
>>> To remove the cap will require the removal of the step and then the
>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any
>>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from
>>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced.
>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
>>> and I
>>> suspect the problem is the centerboard cap seal. I am pulling the
>>> boat today for
>>> further inspection. Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>>> instruction
>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal? Looking at it, I
>>> am not
>>> even sure how to get to it. I assume that the step has to be
>>> removed
>>> first.
>>> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
>>> removed.
>>> Anyone have additional pictures of the project? Or any theories on
>>> how lots of water is getting into the bilge? This boat has no
>>> hatches that open.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Stephen Staum
>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>> Needham, MA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>
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>> __________________________________________________
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:53:12 -0400
>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <68CB6650-75FE-41B2-B034-C90F8439496F at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed;
>> delsp=yes
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I will
>> recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not - which
>> points to the cap I think.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen,
>>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain
>>> was under water. No problem with that, depending on weight
>>> distribution on your boat. With four people on my boat and the
>>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
>>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from the
>>> cockpit drain to the through hull. Open the laz and take a look at
>>> the hose. Get your head down in there and take a good look. The
>>> hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose clamps.
>>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at
>>> those before messing with the cap. And how about the through hull
>>> for the sink drain? Any way water can come in through that? - rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>>
>>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing
>>> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
>>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
>>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up
>>> to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/
>>> Wed morning.
>>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
>>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
>>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what
>>> it looks like this A.M.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>>>> make
>>>> sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen
>>>> recently
>>>> that boats on a mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>>>> storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over
>>>> the years that this isn't always the case. I would recommend drying
>>>> it
>>>> out and seeing if you can determine the entry point. It's a whole
>>>> lot
>>>> easier to find a leak while in the water rather than a tear down
>>>> and
>>>> reinstalling the cap if that isn't the problem. If no water enters
>>>> while on the mooring, take her out for a ride and see if you can
>>>> get
>>>> water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of
>>>> the
>>>> bolts holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
>>>> To remove the cap will require the removal of the step and then
>>>> the
>>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using
>>>> any
>>>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from
>>>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be
>>>> replaced.
>>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
>>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
>>>> and I
>>>> suspect the problem is the centerboard cap seal. I am pulling the
>>>> boat today for
>>>> further inspection. Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>>>> instruction
>>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal? Looking at
>>>> it, I
>>>> am not
>>>> even sure how to get to it. I assume that the step has to be
>>>> removed
>>>> first.
>>>> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
>>>> removed.
>>>> Anyone have additional pictures of the project? Or any theories
>>>> on
>>>> how lots of water is getting into the bilge? This boat has no
>>>> hatches that open.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Stephen Staum
>>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>>> Needham, MA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:58:28 -0400
>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <008701cd7c91$254d56a0$6fe803e0$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> The hose is not usually the problem. It is the through hull
>> fitting. The
>> gasket for the fitting on the '83 is probably long gone. Be
>> careful about
>> tightening the nylon nut on the fitting as it may fracture
>> unexpectedly
>> (very bad if in the water) and it may be attempting to compress the
>> fiberglass hull if there is little or no gasket material
>> remaining. You
>> will need to haul to replace and rebed the fitting.
>>
>> The cockpit drain through hull fitting is usually out of the water
>> when the
>> boat is at anchor due to the shape of the hull. It generally is
>> pushed dow
>> by weight in the stern (laz contents, batteries, engine or people)
>> or by
>> heavy seas. The leak may be difficult to observe and water from
>> the laz
>> will usually flow forward, filling the cabin to the same level as
>> the drain.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v <- NoName -> ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
>> Staum
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:53 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I will
>> recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not -
>> which points
>> to the cap I think.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen,
>>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain
>>> was under water. No problem with that, depending on weight
>>> distribution on your boat. With four people on my boat and the
>>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
>>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from the
>>> cockpit drain to the through hull. Open the laz and take a look at
>>> the hose. Get your head down in there and take a good look. The
>>> hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose clamps.
>>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at
>>> those
>>> before messing with the cap. And how about the through hull for the
>>> sink drain? Any way water can come in through that? - rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>>
>>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing
>>> Tuesday
>>> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
>>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
>>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up
>>> to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/
>>> Wed morning.
>>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
>>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
>>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what
>>> it
>>> looks like this A.M.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>>>> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen
>>>> recently that boats on a mooring have taken some wild rides during
>>>> Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have
>>>> seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I would
>>>> recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine the entry
>>>> point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in the water
>>>> rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that isn't the
>>>> problem. If no water enters while on the mooring, take her out
>>>> for a
>>>> ride and see if you can get water to enter while motoring around.
>>>> Also, check to see if any of the bolts holding the cap together
>>>> can
>>>> be tightened a little bit.
>>>> To remove the cap will require the removal of the step and then
>>>> the
>>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using
>>>> any
>>>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from
>>>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be
>>>> replaced.
>>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
>>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
>>>> and I
>>>> suspect the problem is the centerboard cap seal. I am pulling the
>>>> boat today for further inspection. Does anyone have a detailed,
>>>> step
>>>> by step instruction
>>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal? Looking at
>>>> it, I
>>>> am not
>>>> even sure how to get to it. I assume that the step has to be
>>>> removed first.
>>>> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
>>>> removed.
>>>> Anyone have additional pictures of the project? Or any theories
>>>> on
>>>> how lots of water is getting into the bilge? This boat has no
>>>> hatches that open.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Stephen Staum
>>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>>> Needham, MA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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