[Rhodes22-list] Advise me

Wed Aug 22 12:02:43 EDT 2012

Mary Lou:

     I think you really have the solution here in considering the flared hull as a potential (or the most likely)
reason for these roll-overs... or mine, anyway.

     I have noted how tender the boat is when motoring with the tiller locked.  The boat cannot maintain a straight course if I am moving about the cabin.  Of course, I am 230 pounds, and that's more ballast to adjust the course, but I have learned to steer the boat by changing my position (even slightly) in the cockpit.  My good sailing friend has a McGregor 25 and he has more "wetted surface"  (to borrow a term from Stan).  He can lock his tiller and wander fore and aft and beam to beam yet still maintain his basic course. He is more stable and takes more wind to heel the boat.  Our keel weights are about the same.  In the event that flipped my boat, his moored just a hundred feet away, didn't have a cushion out of place. True, this could be due in part to the nature of the weather event itself, but still telling as to the side to side stability issue.  BNy the way, the integrity of my mast has been compromised by being buried in the bottom
 mud. Looks like a new mast is in the picture.  Ah well, you've got to have stories to call yourself a sailor.  Aye, mates? 

Joe Camp
s/v John Dawson
Bohemia River, MD

>________________________________
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
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>I think any small relatively unballasted boat would be more at risk 
>on a mooring. Our boats also have a fair amount of windage with the 
>IMF and the flared hull. In a strong wind the poptops are probably 
>also a liability unless well secured. I've never felt unsafe at 
>anchor and we've been anchored in some pretty high winds but they 
>were of short duration and our anchorages are typically more 
>protected than most mooring fields.
>
>Somewhere I saw it noted that with the warming climate, the world is 
>a windier place. That certainly seems true here on the Chesapeake 
>(though not today).
>
>Mary Lou
>1991 R22 Fretless
>Rock Hall, MD
>
>
>At 06:13 PM 8/21/2012, you wrote:
>>Lack of a deep heavy keel is definitely a contributing factor.
>>
>>Stephen
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
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>>On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Luck of the draw."  Yeah, odd that so many R-22s flipp like 
>> this.  It must be the global warming... er ah, "climate change" 
>> R-22 effect.  Was this in Al Gore's movie?
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:27 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
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>> >> Mine also turtled on its mooring w local cyclones reported. 1 
>> power boat was wrecked on the rocks - no other boats in the mooring 
>> field were damaged. I think it is just the luck of the draw.
>> >>
>> >> Stephen
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Chris:
>> >>>
>> >>> I was not driven ashore.  She flipped right at the 
>> mooring.  All other moored boats very near got nothing. I am 
>> looking for a slip for next season.
>> >>>
>> >>> Joe
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> ________________________________
>> >>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>> >>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:19 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In my case it took a tornado going thru the "pot" on Poplar 
>> Island to do the
>> >>>> deed.  If you sail in shoal waters it will happen to any boat 
>> given enough
>> >>>> sudden wind.  In the last 35 years Joe is the only one I can 
>> recall other
>> >>>> than mine, and he was driven ashore, right?
>> >>>> Chris G
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
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>> >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:15 AM
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>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
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>> >>>> I don't want to wish ill upon anyone else but...with all this talk
>> >>>> about Rhodes 22's with Masts stuck in the mud, are our boats more
>> >>>> inclined to suffer this fate or did these recent storms cause a lot of
>> >>>> havoc for other boats the same size?
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