[Rhodes22-list] Ballast ?
John Shulick
jsbudda at verizon.net
Mon Jan 23 22:25:05 EST 2012
Goodnews
Here is a link for you they make the standard mast for an R22
http://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=20&cat1Name=Masts&familyID=40&
http://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=20&cat1Name=Masts&familyID=40&
John S
PS 2 reef points on the sail are plenty, the boom on the R22 can be
lowered~12" making that the first reef
Spreadgoodnews wrote:
>
> Rob: i am in the same boat (pun intended) as you. I am fixing up a nice
> rhodes with a rotten interior due to a busted hatch. The mast was bent so
> i have to replace it. I am no longer wanting to get the in mast furling
> main. I want a regular main with two or three reef points. When you
> jiffy reef you lower your center of effort and reduce heeling moment just
> perfect. When you roll up the main to the mast the center. Of effort
> moves forward not down. This causes lee helm. Which is a common
> complaint here. Stan needs a roller furling boom.
> The same goes for the head sail. Rolling moves the center of effort
> forward and up. Perhaps i will rig two forestays one for hanks or i have
> seen sleeved storm jibs that wrap over a furled headsail.
> I think we are ok, but the rig needs some modification. IMF has
> limitations. The buzz term for what i am going to build seems to be a
> "rhodes continental rig".
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Rob Granger <rgranger at sbc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Wow... this is disappointing to read...
>>
>> Is it because of the relatively large amount of freeboard the Rhodes has?
>> I've taken my MacGregor V22 out in 20+mph winds (with gusts to 30) on
>> several occasions. I spent a day sailing across the Albemarle with a
>> steady 25mph And yes..... I've had people question the actual wind
>> strength
>> so I checked it with the weather records for my areas. When the winds
>> picks up..I hank on my small jib (25%) and put two reefs in the main.
>> She
>> punches right through. I try to keep her relatively flat and we pick up
>> speed....once she is moving forward I take in on the main sheet just a
>> bit
>> we just slice on through the chop ... it is magic. The Mac is
>> significantly smaller boat than the Rhodes. It has a foot less beam,
>> about
>> 6" less free board an weighs about half of what the Rhode weights. The
>> interior accommodations are frankly Spartan but she sails really well....
>> and fast... and have even gotten her to plane on a run in winds like
>> that.....
>>
>> So let me ask you Rhodies something. How many of you use the roller
>> furled
>> head sail and how many of you have hanked on head sails? I'm hoping the
>> performance deficiencies you are describing here are a result of the fact
>> that most of you try to roller REEF your head sail and have not actually
>> sailed your Rhodes with a properly sized and properly drafting head sail
>> in
>> stronger winds.
>>
>> I hope this does not sound condescending. I really don't mean it that
>> way.
>> Email can sometime read really badly and I don't consider myself a
>> sailing
>> expert or anything like that...I really just want some performance data
>> for
>> the Rhodes for how I plan to set mine up... I'll be using hanked on head
>> sails and reef points in my main.
>>
>>
>> So for those of you who hank on your head sails... can you get the Rhodes
>> to perform well in 25 - 30 mph wind with a smaller head sail and a deeply
>> reefed main? (The boom on a Mac can be rolled so I can reef the main as
>> much or as little as I want -- but I prefer reef points).
>>
>> I'm in the middle of a Rhodes restoration and would really like to
>> understand what I'm going to have when I'm done.
>>
>> When I purchased my Mac (three seasons ago) it came with three different
>> head sails (25%), (75%), (130%). It also came with a light air main in
>> addition to the working main.... And sailing with this boat's compliment
>> of sails is when I fully came to appreciate the importance of a balanced
>> rig. So I'm no longer envious of my roller furled brothers.
>>
>> I hope to repeat this experience with the Rhodes. So if please share if
>> you got a story.
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> The other Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dennis,
>>>
>>> 20-30 knot winds are too much wind for the Rhodes.
>>>
>>> Stan says you can't make headway after 28 knots which is probably
>>> accurate
>>> since I struggle after 20.
>>>
>>> The more I sail the more picky I am about conditions. I usually don't
>>> go
>>> out if the winds are more than 15 knots. Where I sail the chop is
>>> usually
>>> more of a problem than the wind when it gets too breezy.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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