[Rhodes22-list] jersey shore

Lynn Hoffman drfood55 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 16 15:25:17 EDT 2012 

stan is hard at work re-building my rhodes to be. i'm wondering if anybody
who sails at the jersey shore would be willing to give me some advice about
outfitting-what i need and what's superfluous. i plan on some day-sailing
with frequent two- and three-day trips.
thanks for your help, lynn


On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Rob:
>
> I am not looking for a permanent instillation, just something to manage
> water when I am off the boat.  I want to avoid over filling of the bilge.
>  I was planning on running the discharge hose up over the counter and into
> the sink.  I'll stow the whole rig while sailing.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:40 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >
> >Joe,
> >With a bilge pump, make sure you have a check valve, a manual on/off
> switch, or shore power.  Make sure the discharge hose is routed up (white
> hose, see photo) to ensure water won't drain back into the boat when
> heeled.  If there is no check valve the water tends to pump up the hose,
> the float shut the pump off and the water flows back down the hose where it
> turns the pump back on.  You can cycle the pump this way and it either
> burns out the pump (they are pretty cheap) or run your battery down. - rob
> >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20100120/b8412249/attachment.jpg
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> >Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:45 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >
> >Chris:
> >
> >     I suppose the centerboard hose is a possibility.  But there were
> (I've upped my estimate) over thirty gallons of water I pumped overboard.
>  The pennant hose may have accounted for some of that, but not all. I am
> convinced that the water found a variety of sources of ingress.  However it
> got in, the ultimate conclusion remains unchanged... I have to deal with
> the situation, now and in the future.
> >
> >     By the way (anyone) I am trying to wire a small bilge pump for use
> when I am off the boat.  I want to plug it into my 12v power point with a
> cigarette lighter plug, but I can't get it to power up.  There are three
> leads off the pump: a red, a black and  brown, and there are no wiring
> instructions in the package.  I assume that the brown is for an external
> switch, which I won't need, since the pump has a self contained float
> switch .  But the pump seems to want something besides red and black to
> make it perform.  Any ideas? Thanks.
> >
> >Joe Camp
> >
> >
> >
> >>________________________________
> >> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
> >>To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:03 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >>
> >>You know,
> >>    Has anyone mention the possibility of the centerboard pennant hose?
> >>What was that phrase? "Loose clamps Sink Ships"
> >>Chris G
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Keller
> >>Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:45 PM
> >>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >>
> >>
> >>I agree with Chris that polysulfide is best for below water-line, thru
> >>hull fittings.  I have more than I can count on my boat and changed
> >>from 5200 to polysulfide for the simple reason that PS flexes and 5200
> >>doesn't.  When trailering, launching and retrieving the boat it helps
> >>to have something that flexes and holds.  I had some leaks and went
> >>with PS about 8 yrs ago and it has been flawless. As for the leak, I am
> >>betting on the centerboard trunk.BK
> >>> From: napoli68 at charter.net
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:04:28 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >>>
> >>> Silicon Sealant, marine or otherwise, should not be used below the
> >>> water line.  The best thing to use if you want a polyurethane sealant
> >>> is one called "thru hull sealant" or something like that, 3M may make
> >>> it. I use a polysulfide sealant like "Lifecaulk" and I can say it
> >>> last at least 30
> >>years
> >>> personal experience.
> >>> Chris G
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Goodness
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:50 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >>>
> >>> My cockpit drain fitting was bedded in goopy silicone adhesive.  Its
> >>> ugly and excessive.  This isnt standard is it?  I should replace with
> >>> 3m 5200 shouldnt i?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:42 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
> >>> <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > At one time I had water leaking in at the thru hull fitting for the
> >>> cockpit
> >>> > drain on my '81.  The level in the laz never rose more than an inch
> >>> > or
> >>two
> >>> > when on the hook.  When sailing, quite a bit more water was found
> >>> > in the
> >>> laz
> >>> > at the end of the day.  I found that the gasket around the fitting
> >>> > had disintegrated over time (30 years).
> >>> >
> >>> > I snugged the nut to the bottom of the laz BY HAND, not wanting to
> >>> fracture
> >>> > the fiberglass around the fitting nor the 30 year-old nylon
> >>> > fitting.  I
> >>> was
> >>> > able to complete the season without a tremendous amount of water in
> >>> > the
> >>> laz.
> >>> > During the winter layup I replaced the thru hull fitting, the hose
> >>> > and
> >>the
> >>> > two clamps, rebedding both fittings.  Never had another problem.
> >>> >
> >>> > Mike
> >>> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >>> > s/v <- no name -> ('91)
> >>> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
> >>> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:21 PM
> >>> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >>> >
> >>> > Joe,
> >>> > There will be some water visible in the cockpit drain when viewed
> >>> > from
> >>the
> >>> > cockpit.  I'm with Mary Lou in that if you are getting water into
> >>> > the
> >>boat
> >>> > with no rain, wind, or heeling; there are two likely places.  The
> >>> > centerboard housing, which is unlikely if you haven't taken it
> >>> > apart
> >>> lately,
> >>> > and the cockpit drain.  Take a real close look at the hose and thru
> >>> > hull
> >>> of
> >>> > the cockpit drain hose which you get to through the laz.  The hose
> >>> > looks like radiation hose with a couple of hose clamps on it.  A
> >>> > loose clamp
> >>or
> >>> a
> >>> > worn hose may be an issue.  Good luck! - rob
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> >>> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:10 PM
> >>> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >>> >
> >>> > Mary Lou:
> >>> >
> >>> >      There is some standing water I noticed in the deck cockpit
> drain.
> >>> I'd
> >>> > never noticed any there before, though maybe I missed it previously.
> >>Sink
> >>> > drain looks fine, but could stand a close inspection. Everyone has
> >>> > given
> >>> me
> >>> > excellent information with which to investigate a variety of
> >>> > causes.  I suppose, now is the time to make up a checklist and
> >>> > begin to tic off possible sources.  Tally ho!  Thanks to all.
> >>> >
> >>> > Joe
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> ________________________________
> >>> >> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> >>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:20 PM
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hmm. No rain, not much wind or did you have rain up there? If
> not....
> >>> >> What do you have for through hulls? Check the aft cockpit drain.
> >>> >> The tube for it goes through the lazarette. Check your sink drain
> >>> >> fittings though that is above water and only ships water on a heel
> >>> >> (water will get into the boat if the drain hose is loose and the
> >>> >> boat heels). The only other culprit that I can think of is the
> >>> >> centerboard housing but if you haven't had it apart recently and
> >>> >> it didn't leak before, it's unlikely to leak now. I suppose it's
> >>> >> possible that water is still running into the low spot from when
> you got swamped.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Good luck in tracking it down.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Mary Lou
> >>> >> 1991 R22 Fretless
> >>> >> Rock Hall, MD
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> At 09:07 PM 7/12/2012, you wrote:
> >>> >>> Hi Gang:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>       You may remember, in the last episode, Joe had faced the
> >>> >>>heartbreak of a wet boat.  In this installment, he reports that,
> >>> >>>despite pumping and sponging water, more seems to replace what has
> >>> >>>been removed from the bilge.  It's not a flood, but it keeps
> >>> >>>showing  up when he goes to the boat or sails.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>       What culprit has gained control of circumstances?  Is the
> >>> >>>boat  afflicted by an unseen crack in the hull?  Is there some
> >>> >>>hiding  place
> >>
> >>> >>> from which water seeps? How long will our hero have to battle
> >>> >>> the errant water?  Is he just a rube being cruelly played by the
> >>> >>> forces of nature?  The only way to find out is to discern the
> >>> >>> answer yourselves and help the hapless Joe.  So, break out your
> >>> >>> decoder rings and solve this problem. Then tell Joe (in a
> >>> >>> non-coded
> >>> >>> message) what the hell is up with this.  Until next time, Rhodes
> >>> Rangers!
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Joe Camp
> >>> >>> s/v John Dawson
> >>> >>> Earleville, MD.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> P.S.  Who is the red hulled Rhodes on a mooring at Bohemia Bay
> Marina?
> >>
> >>> >>> I see you there.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> j
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