[Rhodes22-list] towing

Wed Nov 21 08:04:27 EST 2012

Now thats some numbers you cannot argue with!
Thanks Alex.  That would explain why my truck gets about 8 miles to a gallon when towing the Rhodes!

On Nov 20, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Raymond Gaj  <liznray at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> FROM RHODES 22 OWNERS - ( under TRAILER WEIGHT) 
> 
> Rhodes 22 Tow Weight
> Yesterday, when heading to the lake, we stopped by our favorite grain and feed store and had the rig weighed. The 95 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, the Rhodes 22 and the Triad dual axle trailer weighed in at 9,280#. 
> 
> Today I took the jeep and the trailer back and had them individually weighed. The Triad trailer, all by itself is 1,300#. The Jeep is 4,300#. 
> 
> That means the Rhodes 22 with 8 hp Honda motor, 2 1/2 gallons of gas and NO Water in the water thank, but the normal gear weighed in at 3770#. 
> 
> To put it another way, we are towing a 4,980# rig. If we filled the water tank with 3 gallons of water, or took any extras, like food and drink aboard (as in our trip to Ky Lake) we would easily top the 5,000# payload. 
> 
> Food for thought when selecting a tow vehicle. Add to the equation the water levels in our lake (and from what I hear, a lot of other lakes) which all 4 wheels in the gravel past the actual launch ramp and I would seriously hesitate trying to launch and tow without 4wd. 
> 
> Alex
> 05 Aug 2000 
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> How did the door sticker compare to the SUV weight?, It just seem a little high, I always thought about 850# for the single, 3200 for the boat, 150-350# for "motor and stuff" for about 4200-4400 pounds+-, could the dual picked up 450#, sure and could the boat picked up 570# maybe, but they sniff a light high 
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> MJM
> 07 Aug 2000 
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> "Blew Daze tips the scales at around 3,700# with all equipment, engine, gas tank, water tank, etc. filled and ready for sailing." 
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> Raven weighed in at 4080# at the end of a season, no motor, a little gas and a little water, less 950# for the trailer (single axle). Makes her 3130#. 15 g of water would be 120# and the motor & gas probably another 100# = 3350#. 
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> Does Blew Daze have the marine head? Raven has a porta-potti which probably weighs less. That gives you 350# of redundancy, unless from '88 to '95 maybe the layup or the ballast increased. 
> 
> Stan, any comments on weight changes? 
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> Gary Sanford
> S/V Raven
> 21 Mar 2001 
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> FROM ETRAILER:
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> http://www.etrailer.com/
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> Tow vehicle, all hitch components, trailer coupling, and tongue weight must be in spec to trailer. Also, remenber to add all weight of passengers and cargo in the tow vehicle to your max tow capacity of the vehicle. 
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> LIFT CONSIDERATION:
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> Weight of Boat on lift is Base boat plus all gear plus all fuel plus motor plus any debris attached to hull plus the weight of the cradle. You may be able to lift the boat, but the strain on the cables and motor will shorten lift lifetime. 5000 lb lift would be a safer option.
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> OTHER CONSIDERATIONS:
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> A catastrophic failure during towing would be investigated and any overloaded condition would not be good.
> 
> Ray 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> The boat doesnt weigh that much, but with bouncing forces etc. You need a margin of safety.  
> A 3000 pound lift should be ok, but ask stan first of course.
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> On Nov 20, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Rummy
>> 4500?? I did not realize it weighed that much. I've always used a full size pickup so never had a problem. 
>> 
>> Thinking of getting a lift for the boat and was thinking a 3000# would be enough. Maybe not??
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Charles 
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:13 PM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
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>>> Jim,
>>> I'm glad you asked. Your hitch is not appropriate for towing a R22. The  
>>> second issue is whether or not your towing vehicle is capable of towing close 
>>> to  4500 pounds. Tell us about your vehicle?
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 11/20/2012 12:59:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>>> jdewaa01 at gmail.com writes:
>>> 
>>> Help!!!  Before I head to Edenton in January to pick up my  recycled '95....
>>> My hitch is rated at 3,500 lbs. max towing weight.   Is a 1-1/2 inch
>>> receiver with a 2" ball sufficient? I don't know the exact  weight of the
>>> boat, but I feel this may not be enough for the 600 mile  journey home. Even
>>> at slow speeds.
>>> Thanks  all,
>>> Jim
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