[Rhodes22-list] Seaward 25 vs R22 some info was Re: Ok to beach the Rhodes?

[Mary Lou Troy]

I think they are very different boats so you may want to decide which 
is better suited to your needs.

I believe the 1994 Seaward 25 is longer, heavier and wider than a 
R22. It may also have a fixed keel - I believe the mid-90s Seaward 
25s had a very shallow draft wing keel. those factors would mean more 
tow vehicle if you are towing and more limited choice of ramps if you 
launching.

  Probably has more room down below but I don't think they have a 
pop-top so may be only sitting (or stooping) headroom. Probably has a 
smaller cockpit - the Rhodes 22 has the most comfortable cockpit of 
any boat I have ever been on - of any size.

There is more info about the Seaward 25 in this thread on the Trailer 
Sailor BB. Some of the links may be dead but the info should still be good.
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/seaward/index.cgi/noframes/read/47925

There is also a forum for Seaward/Hake Yachts on that forum.

You can, of course ask more questions about the Rhodes 22 here. We 
are all pretty delighted with our boats but a lot of that is fitting 
how we use a boat to the unique characteristics of a Rhodes 22.

Best,
Mary Lou
1991 R22  Fretless
Rock Hall, MD


At 12:09 PM 1/28/2013, you wrote:
>To all,
>
>Trying to decide between a Rhodes 22 and a 1994 Seaward. Any comments?
>
>ShelA and I live in Columbia MO and are considering driving to 
>Saugatuck, Michigan this weekend to look at a Seaward 25. I have not 
>been on a Rhodes yet but that would certainly influence our 
>decision. Is anyone located between Saugatuck, MI that would allow 
>us to see your boat this weekend while on our way to Saugatuck?
>
>Thanks to all,
>Michael
>
>On Jan 12, 2013, at 11:16, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew,
> >
> > If you're not getting any cracks or hull deformation around the bunks or
> > keel, your trailer is probably correctly configured for your vintage of
> > boat.  The instructions for replacing trailer bunks for the newer model
> > boat stipulate no downward load on the bunks when the boat is correctly
> > seated.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Andrew Collins <
> > sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As far as I know the keel is 700 lbs of concrete in all models. Mine is an
> >> '86 and sits on the bunks like everyone else's with no weight on the keel.
> >> CB not diamond board.
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> Sent from mobile device.
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2013, at 21:20, Ellyn and Sam Moore <eandsmoore at hughes.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I hope and think this not so. Before Stan re-wrote his website it
> >> stressed the Rhodes righting ability. The old specs had lots of weight in
> >> the keel. I doubt it has changed, even for the added weight of the inner
> >> furling main.
> >>> Sam Moore, '77 R22, Rhodester
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Rick wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> From these descriptions of older boats riding high on the trailer, I
> >> think
> >>>> the best way to answer the question of this thread is to first determine
> >>>> the age of the boat.   It seems boats older than about 20 years were not
> >>>> built with an authentic weighted keel.  That probably equates with not
> >>>> having a diamond board.
> >>>>
> >>>> So if your boat is less than 20 and has a diamond board, beaching it and
> >>>> driving it onto the trailer should be fine.  But if your boat is older
> >> and
> >>>> has a center board, more caution is warranted.
> >>>
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