[Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
Michael D. Weisner
mweisner at ebsmed.com
Mon May 20 12:39:59 EDT 2013
I replaced the cabin sole in my '81 with the same as the original, 3/4"
plywood. In those days, the floor was coated (top, bottom & SIDES) with
resin since they used standard plywood so I did the same. It was cut in 4
pieces, port, starboard, center board trunk and bilge access (center of
cabin, just aft of mast) making it easier to handle. The only reason that I
had replaced it was due to rain water collected in the cabin during a summer
season and the fear of mold. It was still in good shape after many years of
service.
I have yet to peek at my '91 cabin sole.
Mike
s/v <-- NoName --> ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:48 AM
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Can anyone tell me what the thickness of the floor boards are in current
boats? What material is used?
Mine are a retrofit done by a previous owner using 3/4" standard fir
plywood. This is considerably thicker that what is used forward of the mast
which looks like 1/2" marine ply. It doesn't flex but the span is much
smaller. In going thinner I am not thinking of cost but rather weight. It
seems that I am regularly removing the boards for one reason or another and
managing a large piece of 3/4" plywood in the small space is a struggle for
an old guy like me. But I don't want a spongy floor either so I am incline
to go with whatever Stan is currently using given that he seems to be
constantly refining everything.
Graham
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R22RumRunner at aol.com
Sent: May-20-13 8:27 AM
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Gentlemen,
I've been thinking about going from a 3/4" floor board to a 1/2" board. I
can tell you that a 1/2" board will flex and give your galley a spongy
floor. The 3/4" board has no give and makes the R22 a solid craft. I would
not go thinner just to save a few dollars. Just my opinion.
Rummy
In a message dated 5/19/2013 8:41:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michaelhellyar at icloud.com writes:
Thanks for the info. Yes, I'm going to use 1/2. The span is so narrow. I
will post a photo of my mock up for comments before cutting the final
pieces.
Mike Hellyar
sent from my iPad
On May 19, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Michael:
>
> On my boat (1974) the floor boards are made of 3/4 ply and sit
> directly
on
> the stringers and cross pieces. The boards are screwed down to stay
> in
place
> but have openings cut out in strategic places where you might want to
> get down in the bilge to service the pump, sponge up water or
> retrieve things that slip down between the cracks. The plywood cut
> out was then used to
make
> the hole cover by bolting pieces of wood around the hole to make a
> flange that the cover piece just sits in.
> The stringers and cross pieces are all attached to the hull with
> epoxy
and
> fibreglass cloth. There is also a strip the runs along the join
> between
the
> hull and kick plate on the galley side and the settee and hull on the
other
> side. This serves as a place to screw the floorboards down on the
> outer edges. Newer designs might be different.
>
> None of this is original in my case except for the forward section in
front
> of the mast but it appears to me that it was built to copy the
> original construction. When I redo mine I think I will see if I can
> get away with floor boards that are thinner than 3/4" as these are
> very heave and difficult to manoeuvre in a tight space.
>
> Graham Stewart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Hellyar
> Sent: May-18-13 8:18 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
>
>
>
>
>
> Replacing cabin sole. Should it be supported on the bilge frame pieces ?
If
> so how can these pieces be removed or should we GFlex epoxy repair
> over them. Same question on lower bulkhead pieces. They don't appear
structural.
> What is best way to support new sole if not on the bilge frame. We
prefer
> not to tear up the bilge (expensive) but appreciate recommendation.
Previous
> owner let this one sit out with water inside obviously. But it is IMF
rigged
> and most repair is for the sole and bilge. Plan to paint hull/bilge
interior
> with bilge paint.
>
> view toward bulkhead
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> Mike Hellyar
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