[Rhodes22-list] Furling Jib Sail Options

Andrew Collins sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com
Mon May 20 18:17:18 EDT 2013 

The UPS is nylon, very light and is like a small furling spinnaker. It is generally used in very light air, especially if you have the 165% genoa which collapses in under those conditions, especially if you hit a wake.  You ll need a halyard over the 2nd pulley atop
The mast. On my boat the furler attaches to a u bolt installed just aft of the vent. Doyle out of City Island NY has the pattern for the R22. You can pick your colors and it can all be done on line. 
Andrew
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On May 19, 2013, at 11:26, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Utility Power Sail. Go to doylesail.com and do a search on their web site. Great sail 
> 
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> Charles Nieman
> s/v Day Dreams
> 98Rhodes22
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> On May 18, 2013, at 7:49 PM, "Theodore Boender" <boendert at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> What is a UPS?
>> 
>> 
>> On May 18, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The concept of a furling head sail is to furl to the size you need at the time. I had a 175. It was great but in very light air too heavy to work. I now have (I think) a 150 and a UPS. Best set up for me. I'm probably much like Lee in that I use too much sail too often. The 150 helps reduce that. 
>>> 
>>> BTW. 20-30 winds are too much for me, but if in them I would suggest dropped boom and 1/2 main and a very tiny jib (storm jib); the Rhodes does better with something of a head sail as opposed to no head sail. (Just one man's opinion)
>>> 
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>>> Charles Nieman
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>>> On May 18, 2013, at 2:22 PM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ted,
>>>> 
>>>> If you don't scare yourself at least once during every sail, you are not  
>>>> trying hard enough. Drink more rum. It kills the pain.
>>>> 
>>>> Rummy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a message dated 5/18/2013 2:39:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>>>> boendert at me.com writes:
>>>> 
>>>> Jay,
>>>> 
>>>> I am in the same boat. No pun intended:)
>>>> 
>>>> The 175  is just too much for me to handle. Looking through the list I see 
>>>> lots on  conversation related to the benefits of the 175. I get it but man 
>>>> it's a big  sail for a rookie like me. Things get ugly when I am trying to 
>>>> tack with that  beast. Not to mention on Thursday when we had 20-30 mph winds. 
>>>> It was too much  for me so we called it a day and motored home. 
>>>> 
>>>> I am interested to hear  the latest scuttlebutt on headsails for the R22. I 
>>>> am thinking I am in the  market for something a little easier to handle on 
>>>> the appropriate days.  
>>>> 
>>>> Then again, maybe I just need some lessons from Rummy.
>>>> 
>>>> Take  care
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> SV AIRPOWER
>>>> R22 1991/2013
>>>> Boston,  MA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 18, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Jay Curry  <jac2 at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am writing to ask those on the  list for information on furling Jib
>>>> sail 
>>>>> options. I have the 175% but  want to also use a smaller sail for just
>>>> lazy 
>>>>> routine day sails.  Jibing or Tacking with the 175% can be tedious if you
>>>> are 
>>>>> doing much  of either one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ideally, a list of available sizes and a  supplier would be great. But, I 
>>>>> would probably settle on a 100% that  can be used with a self tending
>>>> rig. I 
>>>>> would be interested  in  used sails if anyone has some for sale. I wrote 
>>>>> Stan, but so far he  has not responded.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With a furler, you could use a larger sail  furled down to 100%. But, the 
>>>>> larger the sail, the worse it works.  The furled section reduces the
>>>> leach 
>>>>> edge length and creates a large  leading edge that makes it super
>>>> efficient 
>>>>> on one tack and super  inefficient on the other. I think going beyond
>>>> 110% or 
>>>>> 115% would be  a problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The sizes need to specify length of Luff, Foot and  Leach sides so it can
>>>> be 
>>>>> ordered without confusion. It would also be  great if Doyle or some other 
>>>>> manufacturer already has sails designed  for the Rhodes 22.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> Port Angeles, WA 
>>>>> 
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