[Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
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Tue May 21 09:05:59 EDT 2013
I am replacing my stringers with preasure treated 2x lumber and floor with composite (plastic) decking. Hoping for 25 year lifespan!?
On May 20, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Graham Stewart" <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Great information regarding the sole. Thanks to you all.
>
> Graham
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner
> Sent: May-20-13 2:47 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
>
> They each end over a stringer. See attached diagram.
>
> Mike
> s/v <-- NoName --> ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hellyar
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
>
> Without the aid of your experience I configured the sole in exactly the same
> 4 pieces. How are you pieces supported ?
>
> Mike Hellyar
> sent from my iPad
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 12:39 PM, "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I replaced the cabin sole in my '81 with the same as the original, 3/4"
>> plywood. In those days, the floor was coated (top, bottom & SIDES)
>> with resin since they used standard plywood so I did the same. It was
>> cut in 4 pieces, port, starboard, center board trunk and bilge access
>> (center of cabin, just aft of mast) making it easier to handle. The
>> only reason that I had replaced it was due to rain water collected in
>> the cabin during a summer season and the fear of mold. It was still
>> in good shape after many years of service.
>>
>> I have yet to peek at my '91 cabin sole.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v <-- NoName --> ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham
>> Stewart
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:48 AM
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what the thickness of the floor boards are in
>> current boats? What material is used?
>>
>> Mine are a retrofit done by a previous owner using 3/4" standard fir
>> plywood. This is considerably thicker that what is used forward of the
>> mast which looks like 1/2" marine ply. It doesn't flex but the span is
>> much smaller. In going thinner I am not thinking of cost but rather
>> weight. It seems that I am regularly removing the boards for one
>> reason or another and managing a large piece of 3/4" plywood in the
>> small space is a struggle for an old guy like me. But I don't want a
>> spongy floor either so I am incline to go with whatever Stan is
>> currently using given that he seems to be constantly refining everything.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> Sent: May-20-13 8:27 AM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>> I've been thinking about going from a 3/4" floor board to a 1/2"
>> board. I can tell you that a 1/2" board will flex and give your galley
>> a spongy floor. The 3/4" board has no give and makes the R22 a solid
>> craft. I would not go thinner just to save a few dollars. Just my opinion.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/19/2013 8:41:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> michaelhellyar at icloud.com writes:
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Yes, I'm going to use 1/2. The span is so
>> narrow. I will post a photo of my mock up for comments before cutting
>> the final pieces.
>> Mike Hellyar
>> sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 19, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael:
>>>
>>> On my boat (1974) the floor boards are made of 3/4 ply and sit
>>> directly
>> on
>>> the stringers and cross pieces. The boards are screwed down to stay
>>> in
>> place
>>> but have openings cut out in strategic places where you might want
>>> to get down in the bilge to service the pump, sponge up water or
>>> retrieve things that slip down between the cracks. The plywood cut
>>> out was then used to
>> make
>>> the hole cover by bolting pieces of wood around the hole to make a
>>> flange that the cover piece just sits in.
>>> The stringers and cross pieces are all attached to the hull with
>>> epoxy
>> and
>>> fibreglass cloth. There is also a strip the runs along the join
>>> between
>> the
>>> hull and kick plate on the galley side and the settee and hull on
>>> the
>> other
>>> side. This serves as a place to screw the floorboards down on the
>>> outer edges. Newer designs might be different.
>>>
>>> None of this is original in my case except for the forward section
>>> in
>> front
>>> of the mast but it appears to me that it was built to copy the
>>> original construction. When I redo mine I think I will see if I can
>>> get away with floor boards that are thinner than 3/4" as these are
>>> very heave and difficult to manoeuvre in a tight space.
>>>
>>> Graham Stewart
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>>> Hellyar
>>> Sent: May-18-13 8:18 AM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] bilge/sole repair
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Replacing cabin sole. Should it be supported on the bilge frame pieces ?
>> If
>>> so how can these pieces be removed or should we GFlex epoxy repair
>>> over them. Same question on lower bulkhead pieces. They don't appear
>> structural.
>>> What is best way to support new sole if not on the bilge frame. We
>> prefer
>>> not to tear up the bilge (expensive) but appreciate recommendation.
>> Previous
>>> owner let this one sit out with water inside obviously. But it is
>>> IMF
>> rigged
>>> and most repair is for the sole and bilge. Plan to paint hull/bilge
>> interior
>>> with bilge paint.
>>>
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