[Rhodes22-list] Fwd: "All are right"

Sat Nov 2 13:01:43 EDT 2013

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> Michael,
> 
> In no way, Michael, was the mis-address intentional.  My tablet does a very poor job of storing email contact addresses so on rare occasion I will take a "list" email and change it to the intended email recipient address so that it will send private instead of broadcast.  The tablet did not behave and reinserted the "rhodes22.org" address.
> 
> I did and do not intend to fail to credit Stan for the innovations on our Rhodes, which he shared in his email to the list.  I have respected his talent, business judgement, and efforts in continuing the R22 production and refurb, and told him this during our conversation at the Annapolis Boat Show.  I "worked" the R22 booth for a number of hours during two of the days, and with pleasure to support our fleet and the GB enterprise.  I got a few individual pictures with Stan as I offered weeks before the show.  Michael, with all due respect, this doesn't sound like some part of a cynical plot to me.  
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> In case my main point was missed by some, Stan, as a rational business person, will 'float' ideas to test their value for followup.  There is nothing wrong with this picture, a very common business practice.  Case in point, the Rhodes 26 float of a few years ago.  Another case in point is the R22 "racer" configuration he also suggested not many years ago.  Unless these are stealth programs unknown to us even after many follow up inquiries from our fleet, me included, they have 'evaporated'.  No harm done, they just were not to be a feasible money maker for GB.  
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> Now the boomroom, whether Ted's myth, simply a floater, or the real McCoy.  I do not believe this would be a winner for GB, in my humble opinion.  I, for one, agree with Ted that competition is healthy.  I struggled into this as a "business" in 2005 because the fleet was unable to get an affordable and viable product from any provider, including Stan ($2,000), driven by a number of fleet skippers, names unmentioned, who had to find an alternatives.  Many remember Slim's honest admission that "the chicks would not set it up" as it was so complicated and difficult.  I began my boomroom enterprise offer with a well-liked, easily assembled unit in a much lower range cost that was achievable for skippers who were careful budget planners and intelligent skippers.  Be it well known that I was heavily beaten about head and shoulders by a former webmaster because I was undercutting Stan with a destructive motive I mind.  Never mind that my purpose was and is to provide the best quality and best affordability so that cruising and weekend overnighting could be comfortable and achievable.  My point has been accomplished many times over, and I have no intention of being boastful.
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> I would probably not recommend someone into the canvas business.  A good friend, not a competitor, is in the canvas enclosure business in power boats in the Atlanta area.  He is able to physically (location wise) support his clients.  He is personally invested in his business, yet finds it financially close.  He has a reasonably strong demand.  Our fleet does not generate strong demand, the wish for a BR is so much greater than the reality.  Why do I continue in this - ask me at an unguarded moment on the phone...
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> Now, anyone with the endurance of reading this without getting tears in their eyes is strong for sure.  I will send a few tissues as you need..
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> With greatest respect for our other fleet skippers,
> 
> Art
> s/v MaryJane
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> Have a nice day!
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>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:11 AM, "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah ... vintage Stan ... Maybe Art really intended to send the email to da
>> list ...
>> 
>> Although I have given many ideas away, if I had a nickel for every GOOD idea
>> that I have lost, I would still be hard pressed to afford a ride on the NYC
>> subway.
>> 
>> Anyone wanta buy a watch?  A boom room?
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v <-no name -> ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stan Spitzer
>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:28 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] "All are right"
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/29/13, 8:19 PM, Art Czerwonky wrote:
>>> "Guys,
>>> 
>>> My apology for the private email that went to the list instead of to Ted.
>> Unintended error."
>> so stan could not resist:
>>> Art, No need to apologize,for saying most of Stan's ideas evaporate, that
>> GB commands a very large markup on the Rhodes, that Ted will miss spring
>> delivery if he does not order your boom cover now  . . .
>> /*You are right. */
>> 
>>     Most GB's ideas evaporate like IMF, Motor lift/Linkage, and endless
>> others.
>>> /*And I am right.*/
>>     The Rhodes *is* so expensive I can't afford one.
>> 
>> /*And Ted is right.*/
>> 
>>     It is a "myth".  The guys say Ted's 130 came in but they can't find
>> it.
>> 
>> /*And all is right. */    (with the marine business today)
>> 
>>     Art is so busy building Rhodes Boom Rooms, others will have to
>> settle for the no-profit ones from GB.
>> 
>> with apologies to Sir Gilbert
>>> 
>>> Thed wrote:
>> "Stan and gang, I was hoping to see Stan's latest version of the starter
>> boom room at the show. Are there any pictures out there? Usedrhodes.com
>> states that a new recycled boat comes with one of these new devices. I am
>> beginning to think they are just a myth. cheers, Ted PS. Like a few of you,
>> I decided to order one of Stan's 130 Genoas to replace my 175"
>> 
>> Art wrote:
>> 
>> "Ted.
>> 
>> I want to make sure there are no lingering questions about the boom room. I
>> see an uptick with the economy improving, the Dow apparently with a new
>> daily record to day. I am aware of one boat order GB got, this show being a
>> major forecast for the new season. As you and I have gone into detail on
>> your BR interest, I want to give you a 'heads-up' 
>> that I have only one production slot available for a 2014 Spring delivery as
>> of today. Re the below, Stan has often floated ideas on the list, most
>> evaporating. Being an astute businessman, he would be ill-advised to attempt
>> at canvas work in covers or enclosures. Even the PTE you now have is farmed
>> out. He commands a very large markup on the R22, with a somewhat captive
>> market, a margin he could not realize in canvas, especially as a newcomer.
>> If you all want me to hold a BR for the Spring I will need to have a partial
>> payment as soon as you can manage it. Let me know what you plan and I will
>> be responsive.
>> 
>> Art"
>> 
>> 
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