[Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa

Tue Nov 5 16:27:51 EST 2013

We had the same arrangement as Charles and then went to a Schaefer 
Snap-furl furler which needed a halyard.

We added a block to the masthead but for the life of me I can't 
remember exactly where. I don't have a pic and the boat just got 
moved to storage. It's either on the side of the mast or behind the 
mast but in front of the backstays. Wherever it is, it works well and 
it was an easy move. If you need details, I'll have to go look but 
for now, know that it can be done easily without revising the fitting.

Mary Lou
1991 R22   Fretless
Rock Hall, MD

At 03:52 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote:
>I am now beginning to understand your question better. Let me better 
>explain what I have.
>
>My main is an IMF (therefore no halyard) and there is a topping line 
>to hold the end of the boom up when the sail is furled.
>
>My 130 is permanently up on a fixed GBI furling tube (I am not able 
>to change without dropping the mast)
>
>My UPS furls on itself and is separate from the 130. (There are two 
>blocks in my mast head, one for the topping line to the boom and one 
>is the extra halyard I spoke of)
>
>Hope that helps
>
>Charles
>
> > From: ric at steelbone.com
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 15:29:57 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
> >
> > Very helpful Charles - thanks
> > You reply left me with one question though.
> > How does the UPS furl, is on a roller furler?
> > I only have a main halyard (old style main) and the topping lift, a
> > kind of universal halyard. Which is what Charles might be referring to
> > as his "separate" halyard.
> > You answered the jib luff question when you wrote "furling tube". Your
> > headsail is not easily changed.
> > OK List - Can anyone tell me how to add a halyard to the masthead
> > without changing the casting?
> > II would like to have the main, the topping lift and then a spare
> > halyard.
> > I have a 175% jib that needs some work.
> > I'd rather buy a 130 and a UPS than spend the money on the 175% that
> > is overpowered about 90% of the time in my area.
> > Ideally, I'd like a modern roller furler with a luff groove so I can
> > change headsails.
> > A smaller jib and UPS sail would be perfect.
> >   Ric Stott
> > >
> > >> s/v Dadventure - '84
> > >> Hampton Bays, NY
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Charles Nieman wrote:
> >
> > > Ric, et al;
> > > For the UPS, I have a seperate halyard that is there for whatever I
> > > choose to hoist (ie flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is just
> > > bangs the mast like everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't want to
> > > be the only quiet boat on a breezy day :-)) I have found that while
> > > the UPS is self furling, it has a tendancy to try to come out if you
> > > hoist it just to motor out or other times, so I keep it laying on
> > > the fordeck until I am ready to deploy (if it is anything over 5
> > > knots I leave it in the bag since I know I won't be using it)
> > >
> > > On the question about the furler, I am presuming you are asking
> > > about the 130; and I cannot answer. I have never had the sail off
> > > the furling tube (I have on the main, and that sail has the groove
> > > in the furling tube that one inserts the sail into) and have not
> > > ventured to inspect while under full sail to verify. I do know it
> > > has a luff rope cause I can see it.
> > >
> > >> From: ric at steelbone.com
> > >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:00:01 -0500
> > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
> > >>
> > >> HI Charles
> > >> Thanks for your input
> > >> Personally I think a 130 and the UPS are a great combination for the
> > >> Rhodes 22.
> > >> Questions.
> > >> How do you hoist you UPS?
> > >> Do you have a dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift?
> > >> Do you have a modern roller furler with a luff groove?
> > >> Ric Stott
> > >> s/v Dadventure - '84
> > >> Hampton Bays, NY
> > >>
> > >> On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Charles Nieman wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Art
> > >>> I had a 175 on my old R22, I thought it was a great sail and
> > >>> probably used too much of it when I should have reefed. I got a new
> > >>> to me R22 that had a 130 and I seriously thought about changing to a
> > >>> 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make that move,
> > >>> plus the new boat also has a UPS for really light air (the observed
> > >>> problem with the 175 was when you really need that much sail, it is
> > >>> too heavy to work). I am so pleased with the 130 and UPS, I will not
> > >>> be going back to the 175 when these wear out (I also doubt the UPS
> > >>> will wear out, since I only use it in very light air, which usually
> > >>> means too hot to be out there, here in Texas).
> > >>>
> > >>> Now I am on a Texas lake, and If you are thinking in regards to your
> > >>> Florida location, it may be totally different.
> > >>>
> > >>> One man's opinion
> > >>>
> > >>> Charles
> > >>> 98 R 22
> > >>> s/v Daydream
> > >>>
> > >>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:44:06 +0000
> > >>>> From: cover-man at comcast.net
> > >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Guys,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am contemplating getting the 130, but curious to get any feedback
> > >>>> on your performance experience. Thx.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Art
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