[Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa

Rick sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Thu Nov 7 19:14:51 EST 2013 

Rummy,

I missed your original post, but did you say you laid over a moving/sailing
R22?

Rick


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:

> Art,
> I know what you are asking, but we were so drunk when we laid RumRunner
> over that I have no clue as to how to answer your question. Two batteries
> and
> water tank forward. 8hp Tohatsu hanging off back end. 4 sailors on board so
> I  have no idea on balance of boat. I know that we had the rail buried most
> of the  day and it was rounding up frequently just prior to getting knocked
> down by a  180 degree wind change. It still is one of my best days sailing.
> I will try to get the new owners (Yankee Clipper) name for you. I  don't
> believe I have seen them on the list. Water in the lake, but the Corps is
> determined to drop it four feet for the winter.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/7/2013 12:09:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>
> Rummy,
>
> Truly, only with the touch of the Rumster!  And the sage wisdom of Captain
> Keller.   Have you ever noticed a  change of waterline length of the R22
> when heeling or with additional ballast  forrward,  such a key factor in
> the
> hull speed?
>
> Are Bob and Sheila  getting out on blue water yet?  I want to get the name
> of his new Yankee  Clipper owner so I can be of help with his BR.
>
> I hope all is well with  you and your boat.  Like, plenty of water this
> year...
>
> R,
>
> Art
>
>
>
>
> Have a nice day  !
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Date: 11/07/2013  11:24 AM  (GMT-05:00)
> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130%  genoa
>
> Art,
> Hull speed is easily surpassed. It just takes a lot of  ballast (crew),
> enough wind and a lot of rum.
> I spent last  weekend down on St. Simons Island with Captain Bob Keller
> (Former  Rhodes owner, Yankee Clipper) on his new to him Catalina 310. Had
> enough  wind to get his hull up to 8.3 which is faster than the rated  hull
> speed
> for his  boat.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated  11/5/2013 4:48:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> cover-man at comcast.net  writes:
>
> Think of  it, guys - what a terrible shame that with our  infinite vigor
> and
> boundless  brilliance we are still confined to the  hull speed.  We need
> some more  help from our fearless  leader!
>
> Well,  back to a glass of Sherry in  the  BR...
>
> Rummy, where are  you?
>
> Best,
>
> Art
>
>
> Have a nice day  !
>
> -------- Original  message --------
> From: Charles Nieman   <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> Date: 11/05/2013  3:14  PM   (GMT-05:00)
> To: Rhodes List  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Inquiry on 130% genoa
>
> Ric, et  al;
> For the UPS, I have a  seperate halyard that is there for whatever I
> choose
> to hoist (ie  flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is just bangs the
> mast like  everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't want to be the only
> quiet
> boat on a breezy day :-)) I have found that while the UPS is self furling,
> it
> has a tendancy to try to come out if you hoist it just to motor out or
> other  times, so I keep it laying on the fordeck until I am ready to
> deploy (if
> it is  anything over 5 knots I leave it in the bag since I  know I won't be
> using  it)
>
> On the question about the furler, I  am presuming you are asking  about the
> 130; and I cannot answer. I  have never had the sail off the furling  tube
> (I
> have on the main,  and that sail has the groove in the furling tube  that
> one inserts  the sail into) and have not ventured to inspect while under
> full
> sail to verify. I do know it has a luff rope cause I can see   it.
>
> > From: ric at steelbone.com
> > To:   rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:00:01   -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
> >
> > HI Charles
> > Thanks for your input
> > Personally I think  a  130 and the UPS are a great combination for the
> >  Rhodes  22.
> > Questions.
> > How do you hoist you UPS?
> >  Do you have a  dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift?
> >  Do you have a modern  roller furler with a luff groove?
> > Ric  Stott
> > s/v Dadventure -  '84
> > Hampton Bays, NY
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:21 PM,  Charles Nieman wrote:
> >
> > > Art
> > > I had a 175 on my  old R22, I thought it  was a great sail and
> > > probably used  too much of it  when I should have reefed. I got a new
> > > to  me R22  that had a 130 and I seriously thought about changing to a
>
> > > 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make  that  move,
> > > plus the new boat also has a UPS for  really light  air (the observed
> > > problem with the 175  was when you really  need that much sail, it is
> > > too  heavy to work). I am so  pleased with the 130 and UPS, I will not
>
> > > be going back to  the 175 when these wear out (I also doubt  the UPS
> > > will  wear out, since I only use it in very  light air, which usually
> >  > means too hot to be out  there, here in Texas).
> > >
> > >  Now I am on a Texas  lake, and If you are thinking in regards to your
>
> > >  Florida location, it may be totally different.
> >  >
> > >  One man's opinion
> > >
> > > Charles
> >  > 98 R  22
> > > s/v Daydream
> > >
> > >> Date:  Tue, 5  Nov 2013 16:44:06 +0000
> > >> From:   cover-man at comcast.net
> > >> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >  >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Inquiry on 130% genoa
> >  >>
> > >> Guys,
> >  >>
> > >> I am  contemplating getting the 130, but  curious to get any feedback
> >  >> on your performance  experience. Thx.
> > >>
> >  >> Art
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