[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3339, Issue 1

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Thu Nov 14 12:24:15 EST 2013


Richard,
 
DO NOT THRU BOLT THE MAST STEP. Unless you want to remove the cabin top  
from the hull. As others have stated. Fill holes with epoxy and tooth picks. 
Re  drill holes and use new stainless screws. They do not need to be larger. 
If you  think the step screws came out to easily, you might want to check 
for rot in  that area. Drill a couple of small holes to determine if the deck 
is solid or  rotten. The holes can easily be filled with epoxy and repaired 
with gel coat  kit. IF you have rotten decking, that's a completely 
different fix, but can be  done economically.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 11/12/2013 3:18:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com writes:

Does  anyone have a fix for out R22 mast step which ripped out of the deck 
when we  were using Stan's mast lowering system? It let go when the mast was 
about 2/3  of the way down which is where the greatest horizontal force is 
put on the  mast step. I found the mast step was held in place by 3 screws 
which is fine  for resisting the vertical force ( vector ) while the mast is 
standing but not  so good when lowering or raising the mast. This is an 88 
model partially  refurbished in 98. I'm thinking of through drilling the deck 
with ss bolts and  putting a plate on the underside of the deck, assuming 
the bolts won't  interfere with the mast support which is below the mast 
support and down to  the keel.

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Cover for Rhodes (Patrick  Fletcher)
>   2. Re: Cover for Rhodes (Stephen  Staum)
>   3. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Sal  D'Andrea)
>   4. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp  (sprocket80)
>   5. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp  (Leland)
>   6. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp  (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
>   7. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp  (Leland)
>   8. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Theodore  Boender)
>   9. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Ronald  Lipton)
>  10. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Michael  Weisner)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:34:20 -0800
>  From: Patrick Fletcher <patrick.d.fletcher at gmail.com>
> Subject:  [Rhodes22-list] Cover for Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> I keep my Rhodes  22 in the driveway on its trailer, underneath a prolific
> birch tree,  and am looking for a cover that would keep it leaf and dirt
> free. Does  anyone have a commercially-available cover that works well for
> their  Rhodes, either with the mast in the cradle or down on the stern 
rail?
>  
> Thanks-
> 
> --Pat
> 
> 
>  ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon,  11 Nov 2013 16:10:04 -0500
> From: Stephen Staum  <snstaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cover for  Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Patrick,
>  
> I use a 40 x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you  drop 
the lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow.  
Only the heavy wet snow will stick but it is easily brushed off w a push  
broom. Easy for me as the boat is in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire  
boat & is bungeed to the trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows  access 
to go aboard. 
> 
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee  2
> Needham, MA 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat,  fogging the motor, and 
cleaning.
>> I've read lots of pro and cons on  the list concerning shrink-wrap, 
custom
>> covers (thanks Art but way  to expensive for me), and tarps to including
>> fabrication of a PVC  structure to reenforce the cover of choice.
>> 
>> Does  anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp while on the
>>  trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled this year and a assume Stan  
uses
>> awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on the list is  adamant 
about
>> not shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I won't  spend the $.
>> 
>> It seems to me that the GB mast crutch  provides a good A-frame so snow 
won't
>> build up. I bought a 20X30  tarp and it seems like it would work well 
using
>> this  approach.
>> 
>> Any advice? Other than moving back to  Florida! 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> Boston,  MA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> -----
>> Ted 
>> Boston,  Massachusetts
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>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Patrick Fletcher  
<patrick.d.fletcher at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I keep my  Rhodes 22 in the driveway on its trailer, underneath a 
prolific
>>  birch tree, and am looking for a cover that would keep it leaf and  dirt
>> free. Does anyone have a commercially-available cover that  works well 
for
>> their Rhodes, either with the mast in the cradle or  down on the stern 
rail?
>> 
>> Thanks-
>>  
>> --Pat
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue,  12 Nov 2013 07:37:30 -0500
> From: "Sal D'Andrea"  <s.g.dandrea at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast  crutch for tarp
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> I herd that it is  not good to leave the battery on the boat during the 
winter.
> Also, the  cables hoop. Does any one 
> A different opinion Sal
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:27 PM, "Graham  Stewart" <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> 
wrote:
>> 
>> I found  that it was easier to store my mast off the boat and use two 
14'  2x4
>> as a ridge for the tarp. It was held in place by the fore  pulpit, a 4x4 
post
>> at the mast step and another support at the  stern. The mast has a lot of
>> gear and spreaders that can tear the  tarp but I am sure that works fine 
and
>> makes sense if you don't  have a convenient place to store the mast. 
>> I have never  understood the preference for shrink wrap. Air circulation
>> inside  the boat is important and having that adhesive tape stuck around 
 the
>> perimeter looks to me like trouble. Add to that the fact that  it costs 
much
>> more than a tarp and it rates poorly in my books.  But then, I have never
>> tied it so I may have missed the  advantages.
>> 
>> Graham 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen  Staum
>> Sent: November-10-13 5:35 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22  Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for  tarp
>> 
>> I charge my batteries & leave in place. I  cut & drilled a 4 x 4 to bolt 
to
>> the mast mount & support  the mast midship. I was not happy watching the 
mast
>> flex while  towing. 
>> 
>> Stephen 
>> 
>> Sent from  my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Theodore  Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Stephen, That would be great! I am looking for a sailing mentor.  I'll
>> bring lunch and your beverage of choice! Let me know if you  need help on
>> launch day, I'd be happy to assist. I've got raising  the mast down 
pretty
>> well using Stan's latest version of the mast  raising system.  
>>> 
>>> I am going to cover my  boat with a large tarp as we discussed. I took 
off
>> the spreaders  and I am going to reinforce the mast a little in the 
middle.
>>  Trying to decide if I am going to take out the batteries or just leave  
them
>> be and hope for the best.
>>> 
>>>  Cheers,
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Stephen Staum  <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club off Wollaston Beach  in
>> Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor Islands &  only a half 
hour
>> from home. I am usually in the water by mid June  & try to get out after 
work
>> once or twice a week in season. It  would be my pleasure if you like to 
join
>> me next year.  
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen Staum
>>>>  s/v Carol Lee 2
>>>> Needham, MA
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>  
>>>>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Theodore Boender  <boendert at me.com> 
wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Stephen, I live at Hanscom Air Force Base near  Bedford. However, I 
kept
>> the boat up at Lake Winni, NH since we  own a house up there and spend 
our
>> weekends there throughout the  summer. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is my first boat  and I am a new sailor. I did trailer sail the 
boat
>> in Boston  harbor earlier this summer before heading up to lake winni. I
>>  loved it! I prefer the salt water and the more consistent breezes.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been meaning to reach  out to you since we are fairly close.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>  Ted
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at  10:48 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>  
wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Ted,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use a 40 x 25  tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you 
drop
>> the  lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. 
 Only
>> the heavy wet snow will stick but it is easily brushed off w  a push 
broom.
>> Easy for me as the boat is in my yard. Large tarp  hangs over the entire 
boat
>> & is bungeed to the trailer all  around. 2 bungee removal allows access 
to go
>> aboard.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Where are u in  Boston & where do u sail?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Stephen Staum
>>>>>> s/v  Carol Lee 2
>>>>>> Needham,  MA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my  iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 9,  2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All,  Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging the motor, and
>>  cleaning.
>>>>>>> I've read lots of pro and cons on  the list concerning shrink-wrap, 
>>>>>>> custom  covers (thanks Art but way to expensive for me), and tarps  
>>>>>>> to including fabrication of a PVC structure  to reenforce the cover 
of
>> choice.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to  support a tarp while on 
>>>>>>> the trailer? My  blue-hulled boat was recycled this year and a 
>>>>>>>  assume Stan uses awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on  
>>>>>>> the list is adamant about not shrink-wrapping  painted hulls so I 
guess
>> I won't spend the  $.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It seems  to me that the GB mast crutch provides a good A-frame so  
>>>>>>> snow won't build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp  and it seems like it 
>>>>>>> would work well using  this approach.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Any advice? Other than moving back to  Florida! 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>  Boston, MA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  -----
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>  Boston, Massachusetts
>>>>>>>  --
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>>>>>>>  tp47155.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at  
>>>>>>> Nabble.com.
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> Message: 4
>  Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 07:57:43 -0500
> From: sprocket80  <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast  crutch for tarp
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:  <932dc62e-80d8-43ef-981f-168c89a28d77 at email.android.com>
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> Ted,
> 
>  I have used a tarp with the mast on the carrier as the ridge pole. My  
suggestion is cut a 4x4 and support the mast in the middle in the mast to 
deck  bracket. I also pull the spreaders out of their mounting brackets. I wrap 
and  lay them on the cabin top still attached to the shrouds. This way, 
heavy snow  on the tarp won't bend them or the brackets.
> 
> Todd T.
>  -- 
> Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my  brevity.
> 
> Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>  wrote:
> 
> Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club off  Wollaston Beach in 
Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor Islands  & only a half hour from 
home. I am usually in the water by mid June &  try to get out after work 
once or twice a week in season. It would be my  pleasure if you like to join 
me next year. 
> 
> Stephen  Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA
> 
> Sent from  my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Theodore Boender  <boendert at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Stephen, I live at  Hanscom Air Force Base near Bedford. However, I kept 
the boat up at Lake  Winni, NH since we own a house up there and spend our 
weekends there  throughout the summer. 
>> 
>> It is my first boat and I am  a new sailor. I did trailer sail the boat 
in Boston harbor earlier this summer  before heading up to lake winni. I 
loved it! I prefer the salt water and the  more consistent breezes. 
>> 
>> I've been meaning to reach  out to you since we are fairly close.
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:48  PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Ted,
>>> 
>>> I use a 40 x 25 tarp  ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you 
drop the lifelines you get a  nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. 
Only the heavy wet snow will  stick but it is easily brushed off w a push 
broom. Easy for me as the boat is  in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire 
boat & is bungeed to the  trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows 
access to go aboard.  
>>> 
>>> Where are u in Boston & where do u  sail?
>>> 
>>> Stephen Staum
>>> s/v Carol  Lee 2
>>> Needham, MA 
>>> 
>>> Sent from  my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted  B <Boendert at me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All,  Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging the motor, and  
cleaning.
>>>> I've read lots of pro and cons on the list  concerning shrink-wrap, 
custom
>>>> covers (thanks Art but way  to expensive for me), and tarps to 
including
>>>> fabrication  of a PVC structure to reenforce the cover of choice.
>>>>  
>>>> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp  while on the
>>>> trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled  this year and a assume Stan 
uses
>>>> awlgrip paint on topsides  and hull. Everyone on the list is adamant 
about
>>>> not  shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I won't spend the  $.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems to me that the GB mast  crutch provides a good A-frame so 
snow won't
>>>> build up. I  bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems like it would work well  
using
>>>> this approach.
>>>>  
>>>> Any advice? Other than moving back to Florida!  
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  Ted
>>>> Boston, MA
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> -----
>>>> Ted 
>>>>  Boston, Massachusetts
>>>> --
>>>> View this  message in context:  
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>>>>  _____________________________________________
> 
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> Message: 5
>  Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 05:21:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Leland  <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch  for tarp
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID:  <1384262508615-47168.post at n5.nabble.com>
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> 
> Sal,
> 
> I have a  different opinion although I'm not recommending it.  I leave my
>  batteries and cables on the boat year round.  I got my recycled '86 in  
'05
> and replaced my batteries last year for the first time.
>  
> It may not have been the moderate winters here in Maryland that  drained 
the
> juice.  I never checked the water level and both  batteries had little (or
> no) water in them.  I now check the  water levels once a year and I added 
an
> on/off switch which I use  whenever I remember.
> 
> Everyone recommends bringing motorcycle  batteries inside for the winter 
and
> I've never done that either.   If I don't ride enough the battery may 
drain
> but it recharges right  back up.
> 
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> Kent  Island, MD
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>  
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
>  Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:33:40 -0500 (EST)
> From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch  for tarp
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID:  <4ca5e.353e927b.3fb3a454 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Where the batteries are stored doesn't  matter. What really matters is 
that  
> they like to be fully  charged. If a battery is allowed to drain voltage 
> over the   winter, it is possible for them to freeze and crack the case. 
Battery 
>  acid does  not freeze, but water will. I would recommend charging the  
> batteries fully with  a charger and then put a  trickle/maintainer 
charger on the 
> winter months. In the  south  we use our boats year around, but obviously 
> some days are better  than  others. We cover the speed boat and turn the 
battery 
>  switch to the off position,  but leave a trickle charger attached all  
> winter. The Rhodes is used more often  and I have a deep cycle  charger 
on board 
> which is plugged in when at the  dock.
>  
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/12/2013 8:21:59  A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> LKUHN at cnmc.org writes:
>  
> Sal,
> 
> I have a different opinion although I'm  not  recommending it.  I leave my
> batteries and cables on  the boat year  round.  I got my recycled '86 in 
'05
> and  replaced my batteries last  year for the first time.
> 
> It  may not have been the moderate winters here  in Maryland that drained 
 the
> juice.  I never checked the water level  and both  batteries had little 
(or
> no) water in them.  I now check  the  water levels once a year and I 
added an
> on/off switch which  I use whenever  I remember.
> 
> Everyone recommends bringing  motorcycle batteries inside  for the winter 
and
> I've never done  that either.  If I don't ride  enough the battery may 
drain
>  but it recharges right back  up.
> 
> Lee
> 1986  Rhodes22  AT EASE
> Kent Island,  MD
> 
> 
>  
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> Message: 7
>  Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 07:46:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Leland  <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch  for tarp
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Rummy,
> 
> Good  point about the batteries being fully charged.  Forgot to mention  
that
> I have two solar panels.  Thank God and Stan for  recommending that I get 
at
> least one and for sunshine, not  particularly in that order.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
>  Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:57:17 -0500
> From: Theodore Boender  <boendert at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch  for tarp
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> Todd, I agree. I took off the  spreaders, no problem. I also reenforced 
the mast. Here is the finished  product. I closed the back using bunggie 
cords so I can climb in the back. It  also should allow for ventilation. I also 
used bunggie cord under the trailer  to keep the tarp tight and away from 
the hull as much as possible. I also  decided to take the batteries out and 
store in my warm garage with a trickle  charger. I am hoping global warming 
will really kick in this year so I can  start sailing in April versus June!
> 
> Cheers
>  Ted
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>>  On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:57 AM, sprocket80 <sprocket80 at mail.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ted,
>> 
>> I have used a  tarp with the mast on the carrier as the ridge pole. My 
suggestion is cut a  4x4 and support the mast in the middle in the mast to 
deck bracket. I also  pull the spreaders out of their mounting brackets. I 
wrap and lay them on the  cabin top still attached to the shrouds. This way, 
heavy snow on the tarp  won't bend them or the brackets.
>> 
>> Todd T.
>>  -- 
>> Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse  my brevity.
>> 
>> Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club  off Wollaston Beach in 
Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor Islands  & only a half hour 
from home. I am usually in the water by mid June &  try to get out after work 
once or twice a week in season. It would be my  pleasure if you like to join 
me next year. 
>> 
>> Stephen  Staum
>> s/v Carol Lee 2
>> Needham, MA
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2013,  at 12:58 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Stephen, I live at Hanscom Air Force Base near Bedford.  However, I 
kept the boat up at Lake Winni, NH since we own a house up there  and spend our 
weekends there throughout the summer. 
>>>  
>>> It is my first boat and I am a new sailor. I did trailer sail  the boat 
in Boston harbor earlier this summer before heading up to lake winni.  I 
loved it! I prefer the salt water and the more consistent breezes.  
>>> 
>>> I've been meaning to reach out to you since  we are fairly close.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>>  Ted
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Stephen  Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Ted,
>>>> 
>>>> I use a 40  x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you 
drop the lifelines you  get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. 
Only the heavy wet snow  will stick but it is easily brushed off w a push 
broom. Easy for me as the  boat is in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the 
entire boat & is bungeed to  the trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows 
access to go aboard.  
>>>> 
>>>> Where are u in Boston & where do  u sail?
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen  Staum
>>>> s/v Carol Lee 2
>>>> Needham, MA  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my  iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47  PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging  the motor, and 
cleaning.
>>>>> I've read lots of pro and  cons on the list concerning shrink-wrap, 
custom
>>>>> covers  (thanks Art but way to expensive for me), and tarps to  
including
>>>>> fabrication of a PVC structure to reenforce  the cover of choice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does  anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp while on  
the
>>>>> trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled this  year and a assume 
Stan uses
>>>>> awlgrip paint on topsides  and hull. Everyone on the list is adamant 
about
>>>>> not  shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I won't spend the  $.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems to me that the GB  mast crutch provides a good A-frame so 
snow won't
>>>>>  build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems like it would work well 
 using
>>>>> this approach.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Any advice? Other than moving back to Florida!  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>> Ted
>>>>> Boston,  MA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  -----
>>>>> Ted 
>>>>> Boston,  Massachusetts
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue,  12 Nov 2013 10:52:35 -0600
> From: Ronald Lipton  <ronald.lipton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using  mast crutch for tarp
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> In past years, when I  stored the boat in my back yard, I rested the mast 
> on the bow and  stern railings and used plastic
> fencing material supported by PVC to  support the tarp over the cockpit.  
> I still got some pooling and  ice buildup which
> I removed from time to time.  Two years ago I  started storing the boat 
> in the parking lot of Montrose Harbor, off  of
> Lake Michigan.  Conditions were much harsher and the yard is  not 
> accessible during the winter. When I came back in the
>  spring the tarp had completely disappeared.  I had it shrink wrapped  
> last year, but the cost really hurts my
> skinflint side.   This year I am going to try to keep the mast up and use 
> my cockpit  cover supported by some
> wooden struts to keep water and snow out of  the cockpit.  We will see 
> how that works...
> 
>  Ron
> 
>> On 11/12/13 6:57 AM, sprocket80 wrote:
>>  Ted,
>> 
>> I have used a tarp with the mast on the carrier  as the ridge pole. My 
suggestion is cut a 4x4 and support the mast in the  middle in the mast to 
deck bracket. I also pull the spreaders out of their  mounting brackets. I 
wrap and lay them on the cabin top still attached to the  shrouds. This way, 
heavy snow on the tarp won't bend them or the  brackets.
>> 
>> Todd T.
> 
> 
> 
>  ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue,  12 Nov 2013 11:59:51 -0500
> From: "Michael Weisner"  <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast  crutch for tarp
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:  <01e301cedfc8$9b2305a0$d16910e0$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Ted,
>  
> Throughout the winter, especially during mating season in the early  
spring,
> remember to check for animals who will nest in nicely closed  (tarped) 
boats.
> They can be a real mess to clean up.
> 
>  I also tape foam or towels over most of the sharp items such as the  
spreader
> fittings and cleats on the mast to avoid damage to the  tarp.  The wind 
and
> snow will cause movement which can tear the  material.  I have also
> experimented with using gallon jugs (milk  or bleach) filled with water to
> act as the tarp hold downs.  This  permits the tarp to adjust during heavy
> snowfall rather than rip or  pull out the grommets.  Wal-Mart sells tarp
> clips (yellow  plastic) to repair the tarp if you lose a grommet.
> 
> Global  warming?  Let's not start that discussion again!  PLEASE BE  
CAREFUL
> IF YOU LAUNCH IN APRIL - WATER TEMPS ARE LOW ENOUGH FOR  HYPOTHERMIA!  
WEAR A
> LIFE JACKET FOR SURE TO GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME  TO BE RESCUED! (Note: Late
> season sailing (November/December) is  actually safer since the water is
> still fairly warm in the  northeast.
> 
> Mike
> s/v <-no name -> ('91)
>  Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Theodore  
Boender
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:57 AM
> To: The  Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch  for tarp
> 
> Todd, I agree. I took off the spreaders, no problem.  I also reenforced 
the
> mast. Here is the finished product. I closed the  back using bunggie 
cords so
> I can climb in the back. It also should  allow for ventilation. I also 
used
> bunggie cord under the trailer to  keep the tarp tight and away from the 
hull
> as much as possible. I also  decided to take the batteries out and store 
in
> my warm garage with a  trickle charger. I am hoping global warming will
> really kick in this  year so I can start sailing in April versus June!
> 
>  Cheers
> Ted
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>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:57 AM, sprocket80  <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ted,
>>  
>> I have used a tarp with the mast on the carrier as the ridge  pole. My
> suggestion is cut a 4x4 and support the mast in the middle in  the mast to
> deck bracket. I also pull the spreaders out of their  mounting brackets. I
> wrap and lay them on the cabin top still attached  to the shrouds. This 
way,
> heavy snow on the tarp won't bend them or  the brackets.
>> 
>> Todd T.
>> -- 
>>  Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my  
brevity.
>> 
>> Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club  off Wollaston Beach in
> Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor  Islands & only a half 
hour
> from home. I am usually in the water by  mid June & try to get out after 
work
> once or twice a week in  season. It would be my pleasure if you like to 
join
> me next year.  
>> 
>> Stephen Staum
>> s/v Carol Lee  2
>> Needham, MA
>> 
>> Sent from my  iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Theodore  Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Stephen, I live at Hanscom Air Force Base near Bedford. However, I  
kept
> the boat up at Lake Winni, NH since we own a house up there and  spend our
> weekends there throughout the summer. 
>>>  
>>> It is my first boat and I am a new sailor. I did trailer sail  the boat 
in
> Boston harbor earlier this summer before heading up to  lake winni. I 
loved
> it! I prefer the salt water and the more  consistent breezes. 
>>> 
>>> I've been meaning to  reach out to you since we are fairly close.
>>> 
>>>  Cheers,
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 9,  2013, at 10:48 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ted,
>>>>  
>>>> I use a 40 x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast  crutch. If you 
drop
> the lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of  the boat to shed snow. 
Only
> the heavy wet snow will stick but it is  easily brushed off w a push 
broom.
> Easy for me as the boat is in my  yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire 
boat
> & is bungeed to the  trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows access 
to go
> aboard.  
>>>> 
>>>> Where are u in Boston & where do  u sail?
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen  Staum
>>>> s/v Carol Lee 2
>>>> Needham, MA  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my  iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47  PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging  the motor, and
> cleaning.
>>>>> I've read lots of pro  and cons on the list concerning shrink-wrap,
>  custom
>>>>> covers (thanks Art but way to expensive for  me), and tarps to 
including
>>>>> fabrication of a PVC  structure to reenforce the cover of choice.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a  tarp while on 
the
>>>>> trailer? My blue-hulled boat was  recycled this year and a assume Stan
> uses
>>>>>  awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on the list is adamant
>  about
>>>>> not shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I  won't spend the $.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems  to me that the GB mast crutch provides a good A-frame so 
snow
>  won't
>>>>> build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems  like it would work well
> using
>>>>> this  approach.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any advice? Other  than moving back to Florida! 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>> Ted
>>>>> Boston,  MA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  -----
>>>>> Ted 
>>>>> Boston,  Massachusetts
>>>>> --
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