[Rhodes22-list] The Curse of Ethanol

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Considering a propane outboard



On Sep 9, 2013, at 5:03 PM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:

> Art,
> Another issue with avgas is that it contains lead which pollutes the water  
> the exhaust goes into. Not environmentally friendly and frowned (prohibited 
> from  using) upon by most states.
> Most marina's and a few gas stations close to Lake Hartwell sell boat gas  
> which is ethanol free. I also use it in the tractor, tiller, chain saw, 
> SeaDoo,  wife's Chaparral and leaf blower. It costs more (about $.50 a gallon) 
> but I  don't have the carb and fuel line issues to deal with.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/9/2013 3:53:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
> 
> Marlin,
> 
> What have you learned about the octane effect on the  engine.  Avgas is 
> typically 100 octane, occasionally available at  80/87.  I haven't seen this 
> solution used, but it sounds plausible if it  does not damage the engine.  As 
> an oddity, the Exxon station at Lavonia,  Ga (lake Hartwell) has non-ethanol 
> now.  I doubt you could find non in  the Annapolis/DC area, and only a few 
> south along the  Potomac.
> 
> Art
> 
> marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi  all,
>> 
>> I bought my Rhodes last October. Fortunately, it had a  very recently
>> purchased (2011) and little used Mercury 4 stroke. Over  the winter I spoke
>> to several outboard mechanics about the ethanol  issue and did some
>> research. I considered the fuel additive for  ethanol, but in the end went 
> a
>> different direction.
>> 
>> My  current approach is to purchase aviation gas from a local  regional
>> airport. It' runs $5 - $7 a gallon and sometimes even a bit  higher, but it
>> has no ethanol in it. I feel like it is worth the money  to prevent any
>> ethanol problems. Some marinas here on the Chesapeake  are stocking a
>> similar gasoline that doesn't have ethanol. It has a  specific name, but I
>> don't remember what it is called. Anyway, I just  thought I would pass that
>> along.
>> 
>> Marlan
>> s/v  Nautisaurus
>> Mayo, MD & Washington,  DC
>> www.nautisaurus.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 9,  2013 at 12:27 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Georges,
>>> 
>>> Ethanol  dissolves rubber and plastic.  If the fuel tank and hose to  
> your
>>> motor are 1984 vintage, change them to newer resistant  items.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On  Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Carman George <
>>> carmangeorge1326 at hotmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My wife and I are new members and this is our first  message.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We own a 1984 recycled Rhodes 22 and are in our third season sailing  
> the
>>>> top of Chesapeake Bay. Unfortunately, our Yamaha 4 stroke  9.9 HP has
>>>> experienced fouling issues apparently as a result  of ethanol. The carb
>>> has
>>>> been cleaned and  serviced twice this season and I have installed a 10
>>>> micron  in-line fuel filter as well as Yamalube fuel additive to new 
> fuel.
>>>> We took out the boat last Friday and the engine ran fine outbound for 
> 20
>>>> minutes. On the return it kept cutting out every 30 - 45  seconds. Boat
>>> U.S.
>>>> ultimately had to tow us in  (they did a great job).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone experienced similar issues? The only thing  left is have
>>> someone
>>>> professionally clean out the  tank but that's all I can think of.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Rhodes is a fine sailboat but oh  those engines and that lousy
>>> ethanol!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Frank and Linda George
>>>> 
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