[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3285, Issue 1

Richard MacArthur Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com
Thu Sep 12 13:20:26 EDT 2013 

another advantage of avgas is that you can leave it in for years without clogging the carburator bowl. Autogas has a barrel life of 3 months and avgas, 7 years. They clean it up of almost all varnish.

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>   1. Re: The Curse of Ethanol (Eric)
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:28:53 -0400
> From: Eric <ejor2 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The Curse of Ethanol
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> I have had the 5 hp for about 6 months, pleased with it so far. Plenty of power for inland lake, would probably want more hp for ocean. 
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> Eric J. 
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> On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Considering a propane outboard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2013, at 5:03 PM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Art,
>>> Another issue with avgas is that it contains lead which pollutes the water  
>>> the exhaust goes into. Not environmentally friendly and frowned (prohibited 
>>> from  using) upon by most states.
>>> Most marina's and a few gas stations close to Lake Hartwell sell boat gas  
>>> which is ethanol free. I also use it in the tractor, tiller, chain saw, 
>>> SeaDoo,  wife's Chaparral and leaf blower. It costs more (about $.50 a gallon) 
>>> but I  don't have the carb and fuel line issues to deal with.
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 9/9/2013 3:53:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>> 
>>> Marlin,
>>> 
>>> What have you learned about the octane effect on the  engine.  Avgas is 
>>> typically 100 octane, occasionally available at  80/87.  I haven't seen this 
>>> solution used, but it sounds plausible if it  does not damage the engine.  As 
>>> an oddity, the Exxon station at Lavonia,  Ga (lake Hartwell) has non-ethanol 
>>> now.  I doubt you could find non in  the Annapolis/DC area, and only a few 
>>> south along the  Potomac.
>>> 
>>> Art
>>> 
>>> marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi  all,
>>>> 
>>>> I bought my Rhodes last October. Fortunately, it had a  very recently
>>>> purchased (2011) and little used Mercury 4 stroke. Over  the winter I spoke
>>>> to several outboard mechanics about the ethanol  issue and did some
>>>> research. I considered the fuel additive for  ethanol, but in the end went
>>> a
>>>> different direction.
>>>> 
>>>> My  current approach is to purchase aviation gas from a local  regional
>>>> airport. It' runs $5 - $7 a gallon and sometimes even a bit  higher, but it
>>>> has no ethanol in it. I feel like it is worth the money  to prevent any
>>>> ethanol problems. Some marinas here on the Chesapeake  are stocking a
>>>> similar gasoline that doesn't have ethanol. It has a  specific name, but I
>>>> don't remember what it is called. Anyway, I just  thought I would pass that
>>>> along.
>>>> 
>>>> Marlan
>>>> s/v  Nautisaurus
>>>> Mayo, MD & Washington,  DC
>>>> www.nautisaurus.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 9,  2013 at 12:27 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Georges,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ethanol  dissolves rubber and plastic.  If the fuel tank and hose to  
>>> your
>>>>> motor are 1984 vintage, change them to newer resistant  items.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On  Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Carman George <
>>>>> carmangeorge1326 at hotmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My wife and I are new members and this is our first  message.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We own a 1984 recycled Rhodes 22 and are in our third season sailing  
>>> the
>>>>>> top of Chesapeake Bay. Unfortunately, our Yamaha 4 stroke  9.9 HP has
>>>>>> experienced fouling issues apparently as a result  of ethanol. The carb
>>>>> has
>>>>>> been cleaned and  serviced twice this season and I have installed a 10
>>>>>> micron  in-line fuel filter as well as Yamalube fuel additive to new
>>> fuel.
>>>>>> We took out the boat last Friday and the engine ran fine outbound for
>>> 20
>>>>>> minutes. On the return it kept cutting out every 30 - 45  seconds. Boat
>>>>> U.S.
>>>>>> ultimately had to tow us in  (they did a great job).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anyone experienced similar issues? The only thing  left is have
>>>>> someone
>>>>>> professionally clean out the  tank but that's all I can think of.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Rhodes is a fine sailboat but oh  those engines and that lousy
>>>>> ethanol!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frank and Linda George
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