[Rhodes22-list] Standing rigging thickness

[mtroy at atlanticbb.net]

Assuming that it standard rigging wire, I'd bet it's more 
likely a depression of the cabin top or as in our case,the 
sole under the compresion post or both.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Recycled 1998
RockHall, MD


On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:09:34 -0500
  "Graham Stewart" <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> John:
> Based on your description your rig does not seem too 
>tight to me. I would
> not want the lee shrouds to be too loose. I let that 
>happen on a previous
> boat and I ended up losing a clevis pin at the 
>chainplate  from the shroud
> shaking. I know another fellow who had a rig so loose 
>that the upper shroud
> shook loose from the spreader.  Losing the spreader 
>connection or a clevis
> pin on the lee side in strong winds is definitely a 
>sobering experience. I
> like to have it without tension but not so loose it is 
>shaking about.
> 
> I have no idea why the rig would get looser. I can't say 
>mine has changed
> appreciably since the boat was new in 76. I wonder if 
>the problem might be
> the type of wire used?
> 
> Graham 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of 
>John Shulick
> Sent: February-15-14 1:16 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Standing rigging thickness
> 
> My side stays have no play left in them at all. I ran 
>out of turnbuckle
> adjustment last yr and had only 180 lbs. of tension on 
>the wire. There is no
> indication of cracking or failure at any chain-plate 
>location. I tightened
> the side stay chain-plates this last season they looked 
>fine. The original
> stay probably came with the turnbuckle set half way in 
>(I believe that is
> the standard unless you order them special) so my stays 
>must have stretched
> at least 1 "  over a 43 yr period. With the boom up one 
>reef in 150 Genoa
> 50% reefed in 12 kn winds heeled 12-15* the lee side 
>stays are not loose,
> they are dangling in the breeze. 5 yrs of sailing in and 
>I'm comfortable
> handling the boat in that set up but these stays just 
>bug me. A small cost
> and weight penalty vs a 50% increase in load capacity, 
>piece of mind, and
> knowing how hard Rummy has pushed the original. I'll 
>capsize the boat before
> the rigging fails. Perhaps a compromise do the fore-stay 
>and side stays in
> 5/32 and the baby and back-stays in 1/8.  
> 
> PS; Graham you are correct to much tension is not good 
>but to loose is not
> good either. In keeping the mast up the rigging 
>transfers wind energy to the
> hull to drive the boat. It takes energy to stretch a 
>wire, that's energy
> that's not driving the boat. 
> 
> best
> John S
> 
> 
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