[Rhodes22-list] cabin floor mast step repair

Mon May 5 22:48:31 EDT 2014

 Thanks,Ken.

  Jerry

 Hi Jerry
> Just about to unwrap (still in 40’s) warmer weather is forecast and dock
> is in.
> its been two full seasons (i think) and no real issues. I should have
> worked on the main stringers while the sole was up
> as there were a few soft spots that could have used some penetrating
> liquid repair stuff. my bilge is always dry so its not progressing any. I
> was a bit shy on alcohol (for epoxy cleanup) wouldn’t waste good rum on
> cosmetics.
> there is a tiny bit of rubbing (creaking) between the privacy bulkhead and
> the counter when heeled. but i don’t think thats my fault.
> Ken
> On May 5, 2014, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
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>>   1. Re: Traveler height (Rick)
>>   2. Re: I'm Moving (Stephen Staum)
>>   3. Re: Traveler height (Stephen Staum)
>>   4. Re: swing keel help (Ken Bates)
>>   5. Re: swing keel help (Christopher Greco)
>>   6. Motor Lift Wiring Question (Mrbabs)
>>   7. Re: Motor Lift Wiring Question (James Nichols)
>>   8. Re: I'm Moving (butterchurn)
>>   9. Re: I'm Moving (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
>>  10. Re: Swing keel help (Ric Stott)
>>  11. Re: Motor Lift Wiring Question (Lowe, Rob)
>>  12. [Fwd: Ken Bates] (cjlowe at sssnet.com)
>>  13. [Fwd: Pop-top encloseure repair] (cjlowe at sssnet.com)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:37:23 -0400
>> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler height
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>> Bill,
>>
>> I don't think it would matter much if the sheet block is always in the
>> center.  Sheet tension will just have to be a little more overdone on a
>> reach.
>>
>> Maybe a new hat would be easier.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can I raise the bar of my traveler? As you can see it is interfering
>>> with
>>> my comfort. I don't have a tape out here this morning but I am
>>> estimating
>>> that the bar is 16" off the gunnels.  I had a '80 model and it seemed
>>> to be
>>> hire. I should also probably fess up that I really don't use the
>>> traveler
>>> properly. I have it set to the center and there it stays.
>>> Thanks
>>> Bill
>>> PS
>>> Great  day to sail on Lake Keowee in SC.
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:41:23 -0400
>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Moving
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>> Close & in the water is best.
>>
>> 30 minute drive or less = much more sailing.
>>
>> Stephen Staum
>> s/v Carol Lee 2
>> soon to be on a mooring 30 min from home in Quincy, MA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 3, 2014, at 9:51 PM, butterchurn <amazingmisterx at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well some time ago, I said I wanted to move south. Well, I received a
>>> call
>>> from my previous employer asking me to come back. He really needs me.
>>> So I
>>> said I would. The only problem is it isn't south. It is in the wrong
>>> direction. I will be going to Minneapolis.
>>>
>>> I have a choice of a number of lakes to give Ozone a new home. I could
>>> put
>>> her at Lake Pepin (the closest) on the Mississippi. It is about 2 miles
>>> wide
>>> and 23 miles long and the area is beautiful. I could go to Lake
>>> Superior,
>>> but it is 2.5 hours away. I could go to Lake Mille Lacs, but it is
>>> primitive
>>> as far as marinas go.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts or experiences with this area?
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:52:39 -0400
>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler height
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>>
>> Mine is similar height - but does not bother my head. I must sit
>> differently @ the helm.  A good rigger may be able to raise it for you.
>> My question would be re the main sheet geometry afterward & will it
>> affect performance.
>>
>> Stephen Staum
>> s/v Carol Lee2
>> Needham, MA
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 4, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can I raise the bar of my traveler? As you can see it is interfering
>>> with my comfort. I don't have a tape out here this morning but I am
>>> estimating that the bar is 16" off the gunnels.  I had a '80 model and
>>> it seemed to be hire. I should also probably fess up that I really
>>> don't use the traveler properly. I have it set to the center and there
>>> it stays.
>>> Thanks
>>> Bill
>>> PS
>>> Great  day to sail on Lake Keowee in SC.
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 15:21:51 -0400
>> From: Ken Bates <btskend at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] swing keel help
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>> Chris
>> The ?stay set? adds friction when changing radius, independent of keel
>> weight ( which is quite light for 1/4 nylon with  4 to 1?)   Flexible =
>> low friction in the blocks, stiff = higher friction. IT will be
>> noticeable, try it before you put the cap back on.
>> ken
>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
>>
>>> Swing keel help
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 16:49:34 -0400
>> From: Christopher Greco <chrissailorman at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] swing keel help
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>> Makes sense...so you are saying sta-set is ok vs sta-set x.... I was
>> thinking amsteel dyneema....mainly for strength...but dont know how
>> flexible it is....will check both tomorrow. Stan said to use something
>> pre-stretched. ..
>> On May 4, 2014 3:22 PM, "Ken Bates" <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris
>>> The ?stay set? adds friction when changing radius, independent of keel
>>> weight ( which is quite light for 1/4 nylon with  4 to 1?)   Flexible =
>>> low
>>> friction in the blocks, stiff = higher friction. IT will be noticeable,
>>> try
>>> it before you put the cap back on.
>>> ken
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> Swing keel help
>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 19:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Mrbabs <Marc at babineauins.com>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>> Hello fellow Rhodies - hoping one of the brilliant electricians can
>> answer a
>> question.
>>
>> I have a rocker switch mounted in the cockpit that operates the motor
>> lift.
>> Well it used to operate the lift but now does nothing.
>>
>> I tested the winch by jumping direct from a battery to confirm the winch
>> is
>> working. I removed the switch, disassembled and saw evidence of some
>> minor
>> arcing so I ordered a replacement. BUT, the wire running from the
>> positive
>> post in the lazarette has a block of some type attached to the terminal.
>> It's about one inch square with a rusted metal cover.  Does anyone know
>> what
>> this gizmo is? A relay or fuse?
>>
>> Based on its condition, I'm thinking I should probably replace it while
>> I'm
>> changing out the switch.  Any ideas what it is and what I need to order?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Marc B
>>
>> S/V Baby Steps
>> East Greenwich, RI
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:38:32 -0500
>> From: "James Nichols" <jfn302 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <000601cf680b$1b6b4ea0$5241ebe0$@yahoo.com>
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>>
>> Most likely it is an overload relay.  But if you could provide a picture
>> we
>> could be sure.
>>
>> James
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mrbabs
>> Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 9:14 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
>>
>> Hello fellow Rhodies - hoping one of the brilliant electricians can
>> answer a
>> question.
>>
>> I have a rocker switch mounted in the cockpit that operates the motor
>> lift.
>> Well it used to operate the lift but now does nothing.
>>
>> I tested the winch by jumping direct from a battery to confirm the winch
>> is
>> working. I removed the switch, disassembled and saw evidence of some
>> minor
>> arcing so I ordered a replacement. BUT, the wire running from the
>> positive
>> post in the lazarette has a block of some type attached to the terminal.
>> It's about one inch square with a rusted metal cover.  Does anyone know
>> what
>> this gizmo is? A relay or fuse?
>>
>> Based on its condition, I'm thinking I should probably replace it while
>> I'm
>> changing out the switch.  Any ideas what it is and what I need to order?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Marc B
>>
>> S/V Baby Steps
>> East Greenwich, RI
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 19:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: butterchurn <amazingmisterx at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Moving
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>> I will keep her at Hamson's Marina on Lake Pepin. In the mean time, this
>> summer I will still be on Lake Erie.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 07:35:11 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Moving
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>>
>> Lake Pepin is a great place to sail. My first experience on a catamaran
>> was
>> on Lake Pepin in 1983.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/4/2014 10:56:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> amazingmisterx at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> I will  keep her at Hamson's Marina on Lake Pepin. In the mean time,
>> this
>> summer I  will still be on Lake Erie.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 09:11:20 -0400
>> From: Ric Stott <ric at steelbone.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing keel help
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <16C99E14-6900-44A4-AC4E-6053E831FA0A at steelbone.com>
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>>
>> I used some 1/4 low stretch that I had already- It's not stay set, but
>> I'm not sure what it is. it works and it was free.
>> I didn't have to replace blocks, but the two blocks mounted under the
>> cap were attached with 3" long #12 bolts that stuck up through the cap
>> and were covered with white silicone. I took a guess at how these
>> should be attached and waterproof - hope it works.
>> two weeks to launch.
>> Ric
>> s/v Dadventure
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 3, 2014, at 10:37 PM, chrissailorman wrote:
>>
>>> Fine job Ric...what line did you use? And did you replace any of the
>>> blocks?
>>> Haven't been able to locate exact replacements for the ones attached
>>> to the
>>> centerboard.... Spoke with Stan and he offered some alternatives.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Chris Greco
>>> Long Island, NY
>>> Great South Bay
>>> 1986 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 10:31:39 -0400
>> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Marc,
>> I'm going to guess an inline fuse or fusible link.  I've got the same
>> arrangement, but don't recall seeing this on mine.  Perhaps it is a fuse
>> and that's why your switch is not working? - rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mrbabs
>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 10:14 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
>>
>> Hello fellow Rhodies - hoping one of the brilliant electricians can
>> answer a question.
>>
>> I have a rocker switch mounted in the cockpit that operates the motor
>> lift.
>> Well it used to operate the lift but now does nothing.
>>
>> I tested the winch by jumping direct from a battery to confirm the winch
>> is working. I removed the switch, disassembled and saw evidence of some
>> minor arcing so I ordered a replacement. BUT, the wire running from the
>> positive post in the lazarette has a block of some type attached to the
>> terminal.
>> It's about one inch square with a rusted metal cover.  Does anyone know
>> what this gizmo is? A relay or fuse?
>>
>> Based on its condition, I'm thinking I should probably replace it while
>> I'm changing out the switch.  Any ideas what it is and what I need to
>> order?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Marc B
>>
>> S/V Baby Steps
>> East Greenwich, RI
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:29:46 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] [Fwd: Ken Bates]
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>> Subject: Ken Bates
>> From:    cjlowe at sssnet.com
>> Date:    Sun, May 4, 2014 4:56 pm
>> To:      rhodes-22list at rhodes-22.org
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>  I'm starting the same mast -cabin floor repair you did, and so nicely
>> documented. Have you sailed her yet? Is there anything you would do
>> differently? If you think of anything, I'm all ears.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>   Jerry Lowe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:30:53 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] [Fwd: Pop-top encloseure repair]
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>> Subject: Pop-top encloseure repair
>> From:    cjlowe at sssnet.com
>> Date:    Sat, May 3, 2014 11:51 pm
>> To:      rhodes-22list at rhodes-22.org
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> My 10+ year old PTE was starting to come apart at the seams. the thread
>> on
>> both zippers on the door were streached tight and missing in the top
>> couple inches on both sides. Where the PTE goes around the mast was
>> showing the same wear. I took it to the closest Amish tarp and canvas
>> shop. I told the tarp guy that I'd like to make it last a year or two
>> more
>> if I could. He told me that this material shrinks after a decade of
>> abuse,
>> and he would add 3/4" of new canvas on each side of the zippers on the
>> door and put a patch on the hole at the mast. Hoping to keep the price
>> down, I told him I was more concerned about protection than perfection.
>> He
>> didn't see it that way. I picked it up today, and It looked great. As he
>> reached for the work order, I braced myself. He said, including tax,that
>> will be $ 17.21. I handed him a 20 $ bill, said thanks, and left a very
>> happy customer. He even cleaned the whole PTE and except for scratches
>> on
>> the windows It looked new.
>>
>>  Jerry Lowe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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