[Rhodes22-list] My new toy.... Talk me into saving it

Wed Oct 29 16:43:24 EDT 2014

Brad,

Gelcoat crazing can be quite common on older boats and it is usually only a
cosmetic, not structural, issue.  It won't affect how she sails and is SOOO
difficult to repair that it's usually not worth it.

Hank

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:38 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Graham,I have been all over these archives reading your posts. My Rhodes
> is a 1974 and it looks like there are alot of similarities between our
> boats.
> I am curious how you would have fixed your deck without removing it. Would
> you have done like on the cabin sides and drilled every 4 inches? What I'm
> thinking you are doing here is drilling in a grid and then forcing epoxy
> into the holes and it fills voids in between the holes??  Any ideas on how
> to support the deck so I could maintain its original shape???
> The deck is my main concern right now. My secondary concern is the severe
> gelcoat cracking.
> I think I have the floor thing down with the bracing. My other worry
> though is that all the cleats are plastic. In your adventures, did you find
> backing plates on any of these?? If not, I think I can make that cabin
> liner look like swiss cheese in a hurry!!!
>
> Brad Bachelor
>
> Marrying an old bachelor is like buying second-hand furniture. -- Helen
> Rowland 1875-1950, American Journalist
>
>
>      From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>  To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:47 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My new toy.... Talk me into saving it
>
> Hi Brad:
>
> I imagine that you are disappointed to find the boat in the condition it is
> in.
>
> My boat is a 76 and I have had to address all of the problems you listed
> and
> a few more that might still be there to discover. I am into my 4th year of
> reconstruction - recognizing two limiting factors - 1, I am in Ontario and
> have only a few months each year when I can work on the boat and 2, I am
> massively slow in part because I knew nothing about fixing the boat when I
> started so much of this was a learning experience. A third factor which I
> should also admit to is that I did just about everything at least twice -
> and always the hard way. If you decide to proceed with this project I might
> be able to at least point out my rich and varied history of mistakes.
>
> Even without my limitations though it is a big, big project. My advice
> would
> be that unless you really enjoy the process of reconstruction, don't do it.
> I am one of those perverse types who really loves to do the work and get
> great satisfaction from it even when I am hanging upside down sanding epoxy
> in 90 degree weather for hours. But if you are doing this just because you
> want a boat, chances are that the cost and effort will take its toll long
> before the boat is ready. It is very easy to grossly underestimate the cost
> of reconstruction. I wouldn't dare let my wife see my records.
>
> Most of my reconstruction efforts are included in various postings to the
> list and if you search the archive under my name you will find discussion
> on
> how I fixed the sunken deck, repaired the keel, centreboard and rudder,
> ground out the gelcoat cracks and painted the deck, reinforced the cabin
> sides, and so forth. I am currently replacing the ports with tinted
> Plexiglas strips which I hope to be able to attach without hardware. I have
> the Plexiglas but the attachment will not occur now until spring. At that
> point I will be rebuilding the entire inside of the boat including the
> floor
> stringers, bulkheads, galley and head area - for the second time. Of course
> there were tens of thousands of minor things I did along the way or still
> await my attention like installing new chainplates, rub rail, pulpits,
> paint
> the interior and so forth. My ultimate goal is to complete the boat before
> I
> die. Right now it seems to be a tossup as to which will occurs first.
>
> Feel free to ask if I can be of any assistance.
>
> Graham Stewart
> gstewart8 at cogeco dot ca
>
>
>
>
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> I just got back home last night from a trip to get a 1974 Rhodes from her
> original owner. Now don't get me wrong, I knew this was not a show piece
> when I got it, but inspecting it today, shows I have some serious issues. I
> guess what I'm asking is can I fix em all.... Here's some of them (pics
> attached)
>
> 1. The deck is sunken in the midde and very soft. It looks the way to
> strengthen it is through the cabin liner. Or is there another way???
> 2. Gelcoat cracks and crazing all over. This would not be a simple grind it
> out and fill it proposition. The surface of the boat looks more like a road
> map of the eastern United States!!
> 3. The floors are all rottted out and there is still water in it (I see how
> to fix this, so I think this will be easy 4. The concrete in the keel area
> is all broken up (this worries me alot). I guess I could chisel it out and
> pour more, but has anyone had success doing this??
> 5. Cushions are toast
> 6. Bushings are missing from the (old) roller furling system (what type of
> material is this???:)
>
> This is just the start. I told myself, that when I went to pick it up, I
> could always get my money out of it by using the hardware to improve my
> current boat, sell the trailer, and saw her up, but then again, I've always
> wanted a Rhodes 22..... I really am on the fence on this.... Can I fix
> her??
> Should I scrap her????
>
>
>
> Brad Bachelor
>
> Marrying an old bachelor is like buying second-hand furniture. -- Helen
> Rowland 1875-1950, American Journalist
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