[Rhodes22-list] My new toy.... Talk me into saving it

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Fri Oct 31 11:13:33 EDT 2014


   At $70 per ton dump tipping fee, it cost around me about $150 to trash
   a stripped 1974 hull. This is why the 1977 still sits in my yard. :^(
   Todd T.
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   Sent from my Android phone with [1]mail.com Mail. Please excuse my
   brevity.

   The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

     Thats why this one was so hard Ray. I have a perfectly good Newport
     214 that I saved from the junk heap last year that I can sail. When
     I saw this Rhodes, I knew it was going to be some work, and I told
     myself that I could probably get the money out of scrap if I wanted
     to.The big factor here is money. Unless corn prices go up 500% in
     the next couple of weeks, I can't see pumping the money into the
     penetrating epoxy to fix the deck( it would probably double the
     price I paid for the boat).
     On the other hand, I really hate to see another boat that I loved
     when I was a kid headed to the scrap heap...and I'm the
     reason.... The practical side of me says to scrap itThe kid in me
     who thought he would live on a boat this size says to save it...

     Brad Bachelor
     Marrying an old bachelor is like buying second-hand furniture. --
     Helen Rowland 1875-1950, American Journalist
     From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:22 PM
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My new toy.... Talk me into saving it
     Brad,
     When you lay your head down tonight, seek to answer these
     questions.
     1 - Did I buy this boat because I really like to work on boats and
     have a project to keep me busy?
     2 - Did I buy a sailboat because I really want to enjoy sailing?
     New or Old, over the lifetime of a boat she will cost you about 10%
     per year of the original New cost. Less up front and more in the
     end. Boats are not cheap to own. That is why they are called a hole
     in the water into which you throw money.
     If you plan to fix up this boat, you may spend as much in the end
     as it would cost you to purchase a sail ready Rhoades 22.
     Ray
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:09 AM
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My new toy.... Talk me into saving it
     Brad,
       My sister in law gave me a Rhodes 22 , 1987 based in Seattle,
     five years ago.  It was in bad shape but not as bad as yours.  I
     trailered down here to Phoenix and have been working on it since
     then.  I was not retired at the time, so I did not do that much.
     The Pop Top was totally gone and I ordered one from Stan at General
     Boats.  We removed all deck hardware, repaired, replaced and had a
     few items re-chromed. Some of the cleats would not longer hold, so
     we removed and replaced.  We sanded, and painted the boat.
     Reinstalled the hardware.  The galley had been totally removed and
     I had no idea what exactly I need to do.  I started to look at the
     galley and found the flooring had black mold and rut.  I removed
     all the flooring and reinstalled stringers and replace all the
     floor.  I installed fiberglass in some areas that need it, lots
     did.  I put exact foam under the deck and it firmed up the deck.  I
     installed the foam from the back, not an easy job.  I am now
     re-wiring, I moved the control panel from the step way to above the
     galley countertop.  I am now redoing the countertop, I had a lot of
     help from the pictures I found on the net and also pictures sent to
     me by fellow Rhodes 22 owners. Stan, at General Boats, is also very
     helpful.
     The ballast was not damaged.  I would say that it is time
     consuming, costly, and area restrictive. If you have the time, and
     some extra money you should be able to do the job.  Take your time,
     ask questions and enjoy it. Make it a hobby not a job.  It you have
     extra hands around, that sometimes helps but in some cases more
     hands is not helpful.  Your Tube is very helpful.  There are great
     videos out there.
     But as has been stated already.  Most of these jobs have been done
     by Rhodes 22 owners.  So there is a lot of advice.  I found that
     looking at pictures of repairs is most helpful.
     Take it nice and easy,
     Chuy
     ---- The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
     > Thanks all for your replies... Todd... If I took another boat
     hull, I do believe my wife would be standing there with her hands
     on her hips instead of yours.... :) ..... but thanks anyway....
     I'm open to all ideas here on the boat. I have a farm and
     equipment, so heavy lifting and long term storage should not be a
     problem. I'm still not sure if I'm going to fix her yet, but here
     are my main problems I need to tackle.
     1. Deck soft and caved in. (thanks for your suggestions so far).
     2. Keel area where the concrete is broken up (the good news here is
     there STILL is standing water in the floor area.
     3. Floor repair- not a big deal, unless I want to go teak and holly
     like one of y'all did!! (which was flat out beautiful by the way)
     4. Repairing every fitting... everything seems loose or has a lot
     of give... I figure they all need backing plates....
     I'm up here in Northern Michigan with a long winter ahead of me and
     have a lot more tools than brains.... this might be fun!! (...I
     know.... I know...... famous last words.......)
     Brad
     Brad Bachelor
     Marrying an old bachelor is like buying second-hand furniture. --
     Helen Rowland 1875-1950, American Journalist
           From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:42 AM
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My new toy.... Talk me into saving it

     Brad,  sounds like your deck is as soft as mine was.  Instead of
     drilling holes in from the top on mine i cut out the underside of
     the deck and i am going back with oak and Maine ply. It has been a
     lot of work,  and my job has kept me away from it for several
     months,  but of the methods i read about this is the one that i
     felt would give me the strongest and best looking deck within my
     skill set.
     James
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