[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers
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Thu Aug 13 12:00:45 EDT 2015
Looks similar to the stock drains on my recycled boat.
The original question posted by an anonymous person was "Has anyone added large stern scuppers to help rid the cockpit of water in rough conditions?"
Maybe they meant "larger" than the current design?
Has anyone been in a situation where they felt the current design wasn't adequate?
I guess it depends on how rough we are talking about here.
Cheers,
Ted
> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:21 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> Graham,
> Perhaps I'm missing something here. It doesn't appear that you have added a
> scupper, you simply replaced the existing GB drainage system with
> different fittings. One on the cockpit floor and the other the seat.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 8/13/2015 9:11:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
>
> Larry:
> Here are the pictures of the deck and cockpit scuppers.
> Underside photo shows where I ground down the surface to something
> reasonably flat and then used the plywood donut that I sanded to a wedge
> shape to give a lower surface that was parallel to the upper surface.
> Otherwise the scupper goes in at an angle.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> Email
> List
> Sent: August 12, 2015 6:32 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers
>
> Graham,
>
> It would be great to see photos of this
>
> Larry Allen
> Makai
> Sarasota
> larrywallen at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> Email
> List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:45 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers
>
> I changed the subject of this line to reflect the contents relating to
> cockpit scubbers.
>
> Yes, in fact I just finished installing cockpit scuppers about 20 minutes
> ago - having started 3 years ago. In my boat (79) the cockpit drains above
> the lazarette originally had 3/4" mushroom thru-hulls. These small
> thru-hulls were constantly being clogged and seemed inadequate to me when
> the cockpit needed to drain quickly.
>
> The area around where they were placed was depressed - presumably so the
> water would funnel into the drain. The depression was defeated by the
> mushroom cap and so water always pooled around the thru-hull and stained
> the
> gel coat. The same was true for the cockpit drain where the mushroom cap
> prevented the all the water from draining out.
>
> Years ago I simply removed the 3/4" " thru-hulls and replaced them with 1
> 1/2" ones in the deck and transom. That let the water flow with much less
> clogging but I still got the pool around the thru-hull.
>
> I have since installed flush mounted scuppers in both the deck and in the
> cockpit drain. For the deck drains, I filled the depression with epoxy with
> fairing powder and then sanded it flush with the surrounding area. I then
> painted the entire deck of the boat but you could patch the area with gel
> coat. I was planning to paint the deck anyway.
>
> I used a Dremel with a sanding drum to create the hole with bevel sides and
> then made a donut of plywood that I attached under the hole with thickened
> epoxy for strength and depth. The ones under the deck has to be tapered to
> fit as the bottom side of the deck is not horizontal to the deck.
>
> I now have flush-mounted scuppers that should eliminate the problem of
> water
> stains. This was not a particularly difficult job but it took longer than
> you might expect as it is fussy.
>
> I can send photos if you want them
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> Email
> List
> Sent: August 12, 2015 2:10 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris' Bahamian Adventure
>
> The rhodes has a very large cockpit...above waterline. Has anyone added
> large stern scuppers to help rid the cockpit of water in rough conditions?
>
>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:48 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>> Helen,
>>
>> If you have not already, check out the archives for Bill's last
>> Bahamas
> Adventure in his R22.
>>
>> He went with his son and a friend and had a blast. He chronicled his
> journey in detail and is a great storyteller.
>>
>> Now, I just need to find someone crazy enough to crew with me. My
>> admiral is not comfortable in open water :(
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>>
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 Jacksonville, FL
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> We have made the trip to the Bahama's many times...but never in a
>>> Rhodes22...:) I think that is the perfect Bahama's boat. We went
>>> over every other year for almost 10 years while living aboard our
>>> cruising boat..My husband and I have both commented while
>>> refurbishing out Rhodes22...how nice it would be to take her
>>> over..health and age will prevent us...but we sure admire you all
>>> getting together to make that trip..We normally checked in at Bimini
>>> and did the normal route ..... Chub...Nassau... down to Georgetown
>>> stopping at all the out islands along the Exumas..across to Long and
>>> then up to Cat and through the upper Bahamas and home to Port
> Canaveral...We enjoyed every trip...Hopefully you will send reports as you
> go...:):)
>>> ENJOY!!!!!!!!! Helen
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 8/12/2015 9:53:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>> Are you talking about the Sapona? It is located near Alicetown,
> Bimini.
>
>>> It is an old concrete ship (constructed out of concrete, that is)
>>> that was used as target practice during WWII and was the target for
>>> the practice run of the "Lost Patrol" of Bermuda Triangle fame. It
>>> was also used as a staging area for running alcohol during
>>> prohibition. And a great place to snorkel and scuba dive. Or...are
>>> you talking about an even older wreck...maybe some treasure hunting?
>>>
>>> I would like to make another run over there and may join if schedule
>>> permits. Between you, Ted, me, and anyone else, we would have a nice
>>> little flotilla ... and maybe create some marketing buzz to
>>> re-kickstart Stan's boatbuilding business.
>>>
>>> Bill W.
>>> s/v Fina Lee
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
>>> 22 Email List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:48 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris' Bahamian Adventure
>>>
>>> Hey Ted,
>>> I'm open and flexible as far as a launch point. Key Largo sounds good.
>
>>> Bimini is the easiest to check into and I want to check out a wreck
>>> that is in the area. Very, very old. and not mentioned by anyone
>>> I've
> talked to.
>>> We would stay in the Bahamas for 4-6 weeks I should think. I would
>>> be thrilled to have another Rhodes or two to tag along.
>>> Timewise I think it would be in April. I would like to get back to
>>> Fl by no later than mid May so I can ship the boat to Italy by early
>>> June. Lets keep in touch, maybe recruit a few fellow Rhodies? I'll
> send some links on
>>> what the Enosis is up to in a couple of weeks or so. Things never
> quite
>
>>> go as you plan.
>>> Chris G.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:06 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> Hope all is well. I am very interested in hearing more about the
>>>> Bahamian plans.
>>>>
>>>> After reading about Bill W's infamous Bahamian Adventure and your
>>>> upcoming plans, I may be interested (and crazy enough) in the
>>>> possibilities of tagging along with S/V Airpower. I've made the Gulf
>>>> Stream crossing many times as a kid growing up in south Florida, but
>>>> that was in powerful multi engine fishing boats.
>>>>
>>>> Where do you plan to launch? I assume somewhere around Key Largo.
>>>> You may want to consider this trailer sailor friendly marina.
>>>> http://southdademarina.com/.
>>>>
>>>> Will you clear immigration in Bimini? Where will you head from there?
>>>>
>>>> When do you think you might head south? You mentioned in the
>>>> spring, but do you have a target month? March? April?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ted (have EPIRB, will travel)
>>>>
>>>> S/v Airpower
>>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:34 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I shall keep all of you guys in mind and let you know about the
>>>> "disposable
>>>>> equipment". An you guys know me, I can't help but journal about
>>>>> Enosis
>>>> and
>>>>> Rhodes in general. Also anyone and any time is more than welcome
>>>>> to come along in their boat for any segment of the grand adventure,
>>>>> it would be
>>>> fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:25 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris, Bon voyage in the Med! Please keep a narrative and photo
>>>> journal
>>>>>> of your wanderings- all of us on the list will be a rapt audience.
>>>>>> Please also keep me in mind for the trailer and the truck as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Richard Arking, R22 in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, ny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh,
>>>>>>> If anyone is interested, I will be placing "Enosis" on a
>>>>>>> roll-on-Roll-off freighter bound for Italy next spring. I will
>>>> transfer
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> to a cheap throw away trailer. I currently am using a really
>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>> 2003 Triad trailer designed for the Rhodes. It has electric
>>>>>>> breaks and
>>>> brand
>>>>>>> new 9 ply trailer tires. I'll probably put less than 12,000
>>>>>>> miles on
>>>> the
>>>>>>> tires when I am ready to sell. So, if you are thinking about a
>>>>>>> trailer
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> great shape and well cared for, for next season, let me know. I
>>>>>>> was thinking about selling the tow vehicle which is a 2003 F-250
>>>>>>> diesel
>>>> with
>>>>>>> only 101K. The truck was garage kept its whole life. Well up
>>>>>>> until
>>>> now,
>>>>>>> and I will store it under a cover most of the time. So as I get
>>>>>>> near sending Enosis on its Mediterranian tour, I'll let you guys
>>>>>>> know about
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> truck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, and I forgot to mention that I may join you for part of
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>> Bahamas
>>>>>>>> trip. With so many Rhodes in the East Coast area maybe we can
>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>> group together. Please keep us posted on your plans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill Wickman
>>>>>>>> s/v Fina Lee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
>>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:23 AM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 & Sailing Desolation Sound
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I for one am REALLY looking forward to reading about the
>>>>>>>> adventures of Enosis. Chris weaves a really good yarn of his
>>>>>>>> trips with the perfect
>>>>>>> mix
>>>>>>>> of pictures and descriptions that paints a vivid picture of
>>>>>>>> what it is
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to "be there".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill Wickman
>>>>>>>> s/v Fina Lee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
>>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:56 AM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 & Sailing Desolation
>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glad you enjoyed the tale Patrick. My wife and I plan on an
>>>>>>>> encore of
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the best sailing adventures we've had in the last 20 years, and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> some.
>>>>>>>> So 2 months in Desolation sound is on the calendar this summer.
>>>>>>>> Then
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> repeat of the Mexican adventure but for 5 months this comming
>>> winter.
>>>>>>> Then
>>>>>>>> a repeat of the Bahama adventures in the following spring but
>>>>>>>> only for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> month or so. Then stick the boat on a freighter and over to
>>>>>>>> Italy
>>>> next
>>>>>>>> summer. I'll try to post the adventures and anyone interesting
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>>> us along the way on their boat, we would welcome some Rhodie
>>> company.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:36 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was wandering by www.rhodes22.com recently and came across
>>>>>>>>> the odyssey of Enosis on the front page. Downloadable .pdf
>>>>>>>>> files of Chris' adventures.
>>>>>>>>> Some of you may enjoy the read as I did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For some reason with the first file I had to right-click on it
>>>>>>>>> and open in a new window (windows exploder and chrome) but the
>>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>> opened
>>>>>>>>> with just a click.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Patrick
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