[Rhodes22-list] Window replacement update - done

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sun Jun 7 21:24:02 EDT 2015 

Thanks Ted!
Thats where i was thinking it had to go.
Bob (palatka)

> On Jun 7, 2015, at 8:26 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> In the sink discharge. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
> S/V AIRPOWER 
> 1991/2013 R22
> Jacksonville, FL
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2015, at 8:24 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Where do most boats have the bilge pump discharge?
>> 
>> Bob(palatka)
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2015, at 4:16 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not sure about Graham's boat but Fretless has two thru-hulls. One is 
>>> the sink. The other is because she was originally had a porta-potty 
>>> that could be emptied via the deck pump-out or pumped overboard. Not 
>>> legal anywhere we sail, so we just capped it.
>>> 
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>> Recycled 1998
>>> now in the water
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>> 
>>> At 11:20 PM 6/6/2015, you wrote:
>>>> Nice job Graham. One question. Why two thru hulls at the waterline?
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry Lowe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Graham,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow! It looks great!  I love the shape of the window, especially the
>>>>> sloped
>>>>> leading edge. Very attractive design.  I am so glad that all went well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We need a via from the inside.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Windlass ('91)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
>>>>> Email
>>>>> List
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 9:30 PM
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Window replacement update - done
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I screwed up my courage and installed the starboard window today. In
>>>>> the
>>>>> end I was satisfied with the outcome but along the way I thought at one
>>>>> point that I had an unmitigated disaster on my hands.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I applied the double-sided tape to the cabin leaving 1/2 inch between the
>>>>> tale and where the edge of the acrylic panel for the sealant, applied the
>>>>> sealant (see picture attached) and pressed on the glass. I had my wife
>>>>> help
>>>>> by anchoring the bottom aft corner in alignment with the moulded in ledge
>>>>> and then I wrapped the glass into place going forward. When I got to the
>>>>> front I checked back and discovered that my wife thought she was supposed
>>>>> to
>>>>> place the glass on the top of the ledge instead of on the face of the
>>>>> cabin
>>>>> side so the whole thing was badly misaligned and the aft part of the
>>>>> window
>>>>> was not even touching the cabin side - my nightmare scenario.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lesson one, don't assume that your helper understands what you intend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contrary to what I expected, I was able to pull the glass off and
>>>>> reposition
>>>>> it properly. It took a lot of force but it did separate cleanly.
>>>>> Fortunately
>>>>> I had pressed the tape firmly onto the cabin using a roller before I
>>>>> applied
>>>>> the sealant but I had not yet pressed the glass into the tape firmly. The
>>>>> second attempt, aided by some colourful language did the trick.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lesson two: The tape is not entirely unforgiving when pressure has not
>>>>> been
>>>>> applied. I was very very lucky this time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lesson three: The tape is amazingly tenacious. Once pressed into place I
>>>>> did
>>>>> not need to use the clamps that I had devised to hold the glass in place
>>>>> while the sealant cured.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lesson four: A white boat with black sealant is a potential disaster. I
>>>>> masked back 2 feet from the edge of the glass and changed my plastic
>>>>> gloves
>>>>> repeatedly but I still had black goo everywhere - including my face.
>>>>> Fortunately, as long as you get to it before it cures it can be removed.
>>>>> For
>>>>> the port side I will increase the area that I mask off and have a place
>>>>> away
>>>>> from the boat where I can put tools down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lesson five: Removing the protective covering from the inside after the
>>>>> glass was installed was easy. I could pull up the edge with my fingernail
>>>>> and then pull the paper off in one piece. Having painted over the paper I
>>>>> had worried that it might be difficult to peel the paper off but the paint
>>>>> turned out to have no effect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It feels like a solid installation but only time will tell. Hopefully it
>>>>> won't spring off overnight.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now that I have gone through this once, hopefully the port side will go
>>>>> smoother and with lest anxious anticipation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given the cost of ports and the problem of installing them so they don't
>>>>> leak, I am satisfied with this fix - about $300 total for both sides. The
>>>>> bonus is that the window openings are considerably larger than the
>>>>> original
>>>>> ports.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have attached a picture of the finished product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
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