[Rhodes22-list] 2003 Rhodes 22 for sale

Thu Jun 18 11:40:23 EDT 2015

These photos are incredibly helpful to someone like me who got a 1986 Rhodes a few months ago from an owner who is no longer reachable. They answered a number of questions we've been trying to figure out.

I would urge much more photo posting on the blog. They're extremely valuable.

Larry Allen
Makai
Sarasota

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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2003 Rhodes 22 for sale

My wife and I are planning a move to non-sailing country so it´s time to part with our very lightly used 2007 Rhodes. I tried to send the following as an attachment then remembered that they are a no-no on the List.  Hope this, with its length, passes muster.  

The Photobucket link takes you to 70+ photos.  If you have questions, or want more photos, you can reach me off-List at the e-mail below or at (406) 827-4625.  

I would welcome your thoughts, on List or off, about the pricing and especially about other marketing options.  I´m thinking Craig’s list in the region but am leery of E-Bay.  Other suggestions?  I hear the Texas sailing link is an option.

Thanks for any interest you have.

Bob Fletcher

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Bob Fletcher -  fletcher4625 at hotmail.com      

Details of 2007 Rhodes 22 for Sale:

DESIGN, DIMENSIONS, ETC. – If you are already familiar with the Rhodes 22, skip this section.  If you want more information, go to the manufacturer´s website:  http://www.generalboats.com/http___www.generalboats.com/home.html .

General Boats has a second site devoted to used and refurbished boats, at: 

http://www.usedrhodes.com/ 

These sites will provide very extensive information about the history, design, construction and capabilities of the Rhodes 22.

PHOTOS OF OUR RHODES – Try going to:  http://s300.photobucket.com/user/fletcher4625/slideshow/Rhodes%2022  

This is my first try at creating a slideshow accessible online.  You may have to cut and paste the link.  If that doesn’t work e-mail me and I can try to send the photo album another way. 

PRICE – $28,000 / Offer.  See discussion of pricing at the end of this.

HISTORY AND USE – Bought new from General Boats (GB) at Edenton N.C. factory in May 2007 and trailered to Northwest Montana. Since then sailed only a handful of times each summer in two local freshwater lakes.  

Moored in a freshwater lake for one month in 2008 but all other times when not being sailed it was stored in a weather tight barn.  

FACTORY  CONFIGURATION -

  a.. Hull - Blue, the first hull out of a new mold with some slight modifications, (maybe keel extended a little further forward?), intended to reduce weather helm.  The foredeck surface is GB´s newer light gray non slip “sandy” finish instead of the old cross hatch indentations. 
  b.. Sails - Standard mainsail setup - in mast furling mainsail with small vertical stay.  Genoa is roller furling 175%. 
  c.. Mast raising – GB´s mast raising winch, with the removable mast carrier mounted at the stern. 
  d.. Cabin interior - Blue cabin carpet, light blue cabin and V-berth cushions.  V-berth cushions never used – we used that area for storage and usually sleep in cockpit where we have standard white seat cushions and complete set of factory “filler” cushions and support boards. 
  e.. Head – Jabsco marine head, with holding tank.  
  f.. Hatches - Two hatches, including the essential one above the head. 
  g.. Cabin Trim - Trim is teak finish plywood which we have oiled, except table which has spar varnish. 
  h.. Cooler – Before our boat was built GB used a conventional cooler set on end.  That model wasn’t available when our boat was being built so we have a pretty space efficient factory built “custom” version that will hold ice three days in hot weather. Both top and front access. 
  i.. Stove – Single burner uses butane canisters.  The stove can easily be removed for use elsewhere.  Burner cover doubles as cutting board. 
  j.. Water – 18 gallon (+/- ?) fresh water tank and electric sink pump – details below. 
  k.. Wiring and Solar - 2 solar panels, 2 batteries, wired for 12 v. boat and 110 v. shore power. Mast is wired for installed anchor light and radio antenna.  Batteries stored inside and kept charged except when in use.  Original but appear to be in good condition. 
  l.. Anchor – GB´s standard vinyl coated Danforth style with bow mount. 
  m.. Bimini – Blue canvas. 
  n.. Pop Top cover – GB´s canvas and clear plastic creation that fits over a raised pop top for rain protection, warmth.  We bought it from GB used, it’s in good shape, but we are such fair weather sailors we have never used it. 
  o.. Captain’s chairs – They were part of our “boat show package,” or I probably wouldn’t have bought them, but it turns out they are great.  Stern rail is contoured and padded for added back support.  The remote motor throttle, (See motor details below) can be reached from chair with a foot. 
  p.. Dock lines – 4 factory provided 15’ dock lines, in good condition. 
TRAILER - Triad brand tandem axle trailer bought through GB with the boat, plus spare wheel.  All galvanized, open channel framework that is easy to keep free of the invasive species of weeds and snails.  Hydraulic surge brakes. 

MOTOR - 2007 Tohatsu 4 stroke 9.8 hp long shaft motor, with electric start, charging system and remote controls.  It was the lightest 4-stroke I could find at the time.   The 9.8 is overkill, (hull speed reached at about 2/3 throttle), but it has the same “chassis” and weight as the 8.0 for just a few more dollars.  There have been some times when we have pushed both wind and chop and I was glad for the power.

Remote reverse and throttle control is mounded on the front of the lazarette, reachable from either side of cockpit.  Controls don’t interfere with use of cockpit filler cushions.

Just last year I put a tach on the motor and confirmed my earlier impression that with the standard prop the motor won’t reach maximum rpm.  That’s never been a problem for us, but there’s probably more power available with a shallower pitch prop that would allow the motor to reach optimum rpm for maximum power.

An arguable advantage of the current prop is that you can cruise at any given speed with lower rpm so less motor noise.

MODIFICATIONS AND “AFTER MARKET” ACCESSORIES -

  a.. Second anchor – 15 # Manson “scoop style,” (Ronca knock off?), which works well for rock and gravel bottom. 
  b.. Dock lines –4 more really heavy ones required by the marina for our mooring experiment, along with rubber bumpers, also heavy duty, to absorb shock. 
  c.. Kitchen storage – I’ve built shelving under the counter for more organized food/utensil storage.  For our boar GB used smoky Plexiglas sliding doors under the counter and for the hatch cover. 
  d.. Additional tiller extension locking pocket so tiller can be locked from with side of cockpit. 
  e.. Midland VHF radio. 
  f.. Lots of ventilated plastic storage baskets ideally sized for cockpit under-seat stowage.  
  g.. Emergency rescue items recommended/required by USCG. 
  h.. Motor steering arm - I´ve cobbled together a crude but effective, (and easily removable), arm attached to the motor that permits motor steering, either with or without the rudder down.  It doesn’t interfere with raising the motor. 
  i.. Instruments – None.  I started using handheld GPS while I considered navigation, compass, etc., but found for our sailing we didn’t need more. So… the bulkhead is pristine. 
  j.. Dingy - 28 pound Innova “Sunny” 10’ inflatable kayak – not self bailing so is dry – which easily accommodates my wife, our golden retriever and me.  Inflates with manual pump in 8 minutes, but a small electric 12 v. would be quicker and easier.  We usually pump it up for the first dog rest stop and then just tow – much less drag than a conventional dinghy. 
  k.. Waste Caddy – You can find a description of this online.  There were no convenient pump facilities where we sail so I bought this.  It will very cleanly empty the waste holding tank and transport it to wherever waste can be dumped with gravity flow.  I modified our septic tank access to accept dumps from the caddy.  The caddy´s pump appears to be a very common “Guzzler” pump.  Parts should be readily available, but it has been trouble free to date. 
DISCLAIMERS

  a.. Water tank– About the time we bought the boat the fresh water tanks GB had been using were unavailable.  To avoid delay in delivery to us, GB cobbled together a “tank” that is a plastic storage container with its lid siliconed and screwed on.  We carry drinking water separately, so tank water was for doing dishes, etc., but I wanted to be able to clean the tank well.  I installed a 6” clear plastic round “hatch” that gives tank access.  I have found online some conventional tanks that would fit, but they are smaller capacity than the 18 gallons we now have so I haven’t changed things.  If this one dies it could be replicated for about $15. 
  b.. Trailer - It tows beautifully, but.... As least for the slope of the boat ramps we have used there is something a bit screwy about the geometry of the winch bracket.  It’s touchy to get the bow as far forward as it needs to be for proper balance.  I can try to explain more if that’s a concern. 
  c.. Gel coat condition - On the hull we collected a ring of scum from our short mooring experiment, and then some water spots.  Both were hard to remove by hand cleaning or polishing.  I bought a Shure orbital polisher, pads and marine polish.  The hull cleaned up beautifully.  Being garaged, there has never been any oxidation of the finish.  I do have a couple of minor scuffs - disagreements with padded docks – that didn’t buff out but are not very noticeable. 
  d.. Repair – In our first sailing days I was blown sideways over some big gravel and chipped the front of the keel.  I repaired it with marine epoxy and painted that part of the keel with bottom paint.  The repair has held fine.  Otherwise the bottom has never been painted or waxed so easy for a new owner to apply their choice of bottom paint. 
DELIVERY –My wife and I welcome an excuse for a trip so we could deliver the boat anywhere in the western US or southwest Canada, probably asking for a little help with gas expense.  

GENERAL BOATS CERTIFICATE OF SUPPORT – For 10% of the sales price of a used boat, General Boats offers a Certificate of Support to facilitate access to factory support, including parts that are made by or are available only through General Boats.  I recommend that purchase.  

If a buyer wants the certificate, I will contribute 5% of the purchase price toward the certificate.

MORE INFORMATION AND RESOURCES – The General Boats link above is to the “home” page but the following link takes you to another page with interesting internal links:  http://www.generalboats.com .

A link to a Rhodes Owners´ web site is:  http://www.rhodes22.org .

PRICING – Rhodes are unique enough that it is difficult to find “comparable sales” to indicate value.  

On one hand ours is so lightly used it can be compared to a new boat.  The “2015 Boat Show” price of a new Rhodes is $50,995, without motor or trailer, which could add another $7,000 +/-.   Ours was also a Boat Show model, comparably equipped to the new one, except our motor lift is manual and the new model apparently has a different traveler setup.

On the other hand NADA comes up with $21,525 for a 2007 boat alone, but that’s for “average condition” without a motor or trailer, accessories, dingy, etc..  I think our boat is in far better than average condition, and it, the premium trailer, and the motor have all been lightly used in freshwater only

The closest comparable to ours I have found is on General Boat´s used boat website, in the “Corral” section, indicated a $29,995 (recent?) sale of a 1999 factory refurbished Rhodes.  It was comparably equipped to ours, but also had a power motor lift and warranty.  The ad doesn’t indicate, however, that there was a motor or trailer included in the price and I understand the factory doesn’t usually supply motors. 

VIEWING – The boat is just outside of Thompson Falls, Montana, in the northwest corner of the state.  There is a nearby reservoir without great wind but it would be adequate to try the boat.  If you have questions or want additional information or photos feel free to e-mail at fletcher4625 at hotmail.com or call at (406) 827-4625.  
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