[Rhodes22-list] IMF issues FROM JOE TO...

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sat Jun 20 10:33:13 EDT 2015 

     OK,  the warnings here are enough to throw me off the path of taking the mast all of the way down using the rig.  (Charles: I won't ask, but I get it.)  Here's the bummer: I am still nursing a shattered wrist from last year, and I have a bad case of tendonitis in the other arm.  So, my lifting ability is is on the ebb, not the flow. And it seems to be a very long tide cycle.  We will need some muscle.  

     Susan, I will look locally (one possible friend to call) but if you know anybody or have any favors to call in, it will be a help. In any event, I will be there. See you on Tuesday.
Joe 
 
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 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:51 AM
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Mike is correct. If you try to lower all the way to the stern rail with the mast still attached to the step, you will pull the step off of the boat ....... Don't ask me how I know. 

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Charles 
s/v Daydream
98 R 22

> On Jun 19, 2015, at 10:03 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
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> Joe,
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> Be careful lowering the mast without the crutch.  First, the poptop slider must to be in the fully aft position.  It may still cause interference with the mast and may cause the mast step to pull out as the mast goes all the down to the rail.  In addition, as the mast becomes horizontal, the force on the crane will increase tremendously.  The crutch is not really optional.  I would not attempt lowering to the stern rail using the crane.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Windlass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF issues (Susan))
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> Mary Lou:
>    Thanks!  I will hunt for those pics.  In the meantime. what am I looking for in this examination?  What is the problem? What do I need to do to fix the problem: special tools or parts?  Is this just a matter of  reattaching a naughty part?  Here's one important question: Does the mast hoist lower the mast as far as the aft rail?  I've always used the crutch, and mine now has a broken wing.  It'll do in a pinch (this may be the "pinch") I'd just as soon do the repairs at deck height.  Thanks for the help.
> Joe 
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> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:06 PM
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> Joe and Susan.
> We won't be around next week but at some point I think I posted lots of pictures of when we took out the furling tube to replace our main. Let me know if you can't find them in the archives and I'll send them to you directly.
> 
> Mary Lou
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> At 04:40 PM 6/19/2015, you wrote:
>> Susan:      Tuesday and Wednesday look like good weather days. 
>> While I have raised and lowered my mast many times (even by myself) I 
>> am "stupid" with regards to the inner workings of the IMF. We will just 
>> need to put our heads together and stumble through it. I will print all 
>> of the good advice message in this thread for help.  If a local Rhodie 
>> is available, it would be nice to have a set of experienced hands.  
>> (This is the place where other members of the list chime up and ask for 
>> directions).      Do you want to make it Tuesday?    I'll need 
>> to go to my boat first to get some equipment and tools. I can give you 
>> a call when I am at my marina: 10:30 or so.  Good?
>> Joe      From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Sent:
>> Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:45 PM Subject: Re: 
>> [Rhodes22-list] IMF issues (JOE)    Joe, You are my hero!  Thanks for 
>> offering to help.  I find the whole situation a bit daunting.  You 
>> tell me what time is good for you and I will be there. Everyone on the 
>> list has been so helpful.  Thanks to all. Susan -----Original
>> Message----- From: 
>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
>> Email List Sent:
>> Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:30 PM To: The Rhodes
>> 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF issues (SUSAN) Susan:   
>>   Yes, I have the mast lowering rig, and you can certainly borrow it.  
>> It's got some "idiomatic" characteristics:
>> You need to make the rig fast to the deck attachment forward of the 
>> tabernacle, then attach the aft lower stays to the rig and use Stan's 
>> handy extenders (also in my tool kit) to make the forward lower stays 
>> longer.  Upper stays can remain in place.  This will give you enough 
>> space to get the mast down. It goes down aft. I can get down there to 
>> give you a hand with it.  Though I am uninformed about the repair you 
>> may need.      If you can tie up to a long dock (I think your 
>> transient dock fits the bill) we can just pull the masthead over the 
>> dock and do what's needed.  ("sounds" easy and simple)  I am all 
>> booked up through Sunday. If you are available early next week, we may 
>> be able to find a time that works.  Let me know.  It's good to be a 
>> Rhodie. Joe       From: The Rhodes 22 Email List 
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' 
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Sent:
>> Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:43 AM Subject: Re: 
>> [Rhodes22-list] IMF issues   Joe, My main was completely unfurled when 
>> the problem occurred and I was unable to furl any of the sail back into 
>> the mast.  It wouldn't budge.  So I don't think our problems were the 
>> same.  I hope yours is more easily solved than mine.  Do you, by 
>> chance, have the mast lowering device that Stan sells.  I didn't get 
>> one with my boat and it looks like a mast lowering is in my future.
>> Susan Bohemia River -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
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>> Wednesday, June 17, 2015 10:51 PM To: The Rhodes
>> 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF issues Susan:     I 
>> was out today as well.
>> After about 2:30, the wind was ferocious. 
>> Especially on the Elk River.  My buddy and I (him at the tiller) had a 
>> very hard time furling the main as well as the genny.  I had no choice 
>> but to do so in the wind.  Even headed straight into the wind, the 
>> main was a bear to furl, and I wasn't able to get it neatly into the 
>> mast.  Once I got it in, I tied it off still looking ugly. My jib 
>> looks likes a knotted up pair of dirty socks. At least it doesn't smell 
>> bad.     When that main sail gets wrinkled up in the furling process, 
>> it's really tough to get it in.  I wonder if yours is simply bunched 
>> up in the wrong places.  It may correct itself if you go back to the 
>> boat on a calmer day and try it again.  Run it all the way out, to 
>> clear it, and all the way in. I heard a couple of mysterious clunks 
>> today as well.  Maybe it wasn't in your IMF just a sound owing to a 
>> vigorous sail... or maybe we both had an issue and are in for big 
>> repairs. Don't panic till you try it again.  Let us know how you make 
>> out.  (Damn! the sailing was really great,
>> though.) Joe Camp s/v John Dawson Bohemia River, MD       From: The 
>> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> To: 'The Rhodes 22 
>> Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Sent:
>> Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:43 PM Subject: 
>> [Rhodes22-list] IMF issues   Well, had myself a bit of an adventure 
>> today.  Sailing along in about 15 knots (luckily with 2 friends) and 
>> there was a slight clunk from the area of the mast so it seemed. We all 
>> heard it and looked around but nothing seemed amiss.  Then found that 
>> I could not furl the main.  It seemed that the main was sitting a bit 
>> lower in the slot than previously.  I tried various things, but 
>> nothing worked.  Finally found a way to wrap up enough of the main 
>> sail around the mast to stop any sail action and motored back to the 
>> marina.  And so it sits.  Anyone have any idea what happened?  Stan, 
>> if you are reading this, I will be on the phone in the morning for 
>> advice.  I just hope this can be fixed without a long wait. Susan 
>> Crane On the Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay 
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