[Rhodes22-list] Your favorite way of pulling out mast step

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sun Jun 21 20:53:40 EDT 2015 

Mike,

I've never searched the archives and wouldn't have the foggiest idea how. I
know it's been mentioned many times over the years, but can't point at any
specifics.

Hank
On Jun 21, 2015 8:43 PM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hank,
>
> I agree that it is probably better to have the mast step pull out without
> causing additional damage to cabin top.  I remember a lot of warnings not
> to through bolt but I do not recall any anecdotes of through-bolted steps
> that caused significant damage.  Could you find or point me to such stories
> in the archives so that I can quote them to folks who do not believe?
>
> Mike
> s/v Windlass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Your favorite way of pulling out mast step
>
> Just trying to point out that there was a reason it was designed as it
> was.  We have had stories on this list of folks who did just what you did
> and then suffered severe damage to the cabin top when the mast unexpectedly
> dropped.  Don't try to over engineer an extremely well made and well
> thought out boat.
>
> Hank
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 11:58 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the cheery thought Hank. I will try not to repeat the fiasco.
> >
> > Jefferson
> >
> > From:  "Rhodes 22 mailing list [via Rhodes 22]"
> > <ml-node+s1065344n50311h73 at n5.nabble.com>
> > Date:  Sun, 21 Jun 2015 06:06:42 -0700 (MST)
> > To:  User <jefferson at iteract.ca>
> > Subject:  Re: Your favorite way of pulling out mast step
> >
> > Hope you don't drop the mast again as you're likely to rip a big hole
> > in your deck now that you have through bolted it.  It's designed to
> > give way with minimal damage when just using the screws.  Good Luck!
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 8:08 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < [hidden
> > email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=50311&i=0> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well here is how I did it. In the papers I received with my new-old
> > > '76
> > was
> > > the famous engineer's appreciation of the Rhodes 22, which included
> > > a description of how to raise (and lower) the mast from the bow
> > > pulpit
> > using
> > > the boom and main tackle cleated off the stern and hauling away.
> > > First
> > time
> > > with my daughter standing on the fore deck holding the boom stable
> > > at 90 degrees it went up like a charm. Hallelujah. Now I was a
> > > master of the technique.
> > >
> > > The second time I made the mistake of letting the bottom end of the
> > roller
> > > furling jib hang off the bow while I hoisted on the mast. My
> > > daughter was again helping me. At the crucial moment, when the mast
> > > had reached about
> > 30
> > > degrees and she was stabilizing the boom I asked her to c heck that
> > > the base of roller furled was not scraping on the ground. She let go
> > > of the boom
> > to
> > > check. The boom swung out of control and so did the mast which came
> > > crashing down on the deck.
> > >
> > > Ouch. Miraculously the mast and boom were not damaged, nor the deck.
> > > The step however had twisted and pulled out the two bolts attaching
> > > it to the deck. After reassuring my now-traumatized daughter that I
> > > not she was to blame, I put the step in a vise and straightened it
> > > out. On inspecting
> > the
> > > holes where the bolts had fitted into the hull, I could see this was
> > > not the first time they'd pulled out, which was a minor consolation.
> > > I extracted the two flanged pieces into which the bolts had been
> > fastened,
> > > cleaned the holes, poured in acetone to dry out any water that might
> > > have leaked in, and then re-bedded the flanges in epoxy and let them
> > > dry. Then re-fastened the step with the two bolts.
> > >
> > > So far so good. On my next attempt at raising the mast, a friend
> helped.
> > He
> > > raised the mast to head height standing on the fore deck while I
> hauled.
> > > Then grabbed the boom to keep it steady. At which point the same
> > > damn
> > thing
> > > happened for the same damn reason - I forgot to attach the roller
> > > furled
> > to
> > > the mast and raise them both together, instead it was trailing off
> > > the
> > bow.
> > > Monumental, sweaty, end-of-day idiocy. Friend is holding the boom
> > > stable, roller furled gets stuck, he goes to unstick, boom wavers
> > > uncontrollably, mast and boom land on deck.
> > >
> > > Fortunately the step itself wasn't bent a second time. But I was now
> > > traumatized. So I drilled through the deck and this time fixed the
> > > step
> > in
> > > place with (3 inch?) ss through bolts, washers, and lock nuts.
> > >
> > > Lesson learned: the pressure on the step fittings from zero degrees
> > > up to
> > > 45
> > > degrees with this method is tremendous. Once the mast reaches 45
> > > degrees the pressure lessens and continues to lessen up to 90
> > > degrees. I saw in the archives what looks like a brilliant
> > > contraption made from a pvc joint
> > cut
> > > in half and then held in place with metal straps to hold the boom
> > > rigidly to the mast at 90 degrees. Has anyone else experience with
> > > this device?
> > >
> > > Ultimately I want to be able to raise the mast by myself, since I
> > > sail mostly solo.
> > >
> > > So there is my first confession. I'd love to read that I'm not
> > > aloneŠ
> > >
> > >
> > > Jefferson
> > > SV Patience
> > > Lake Memphremagog, Quebec
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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