[Rhodes22-list] Wanna Be with questions

Thu Mar 26 09:42:57 EDT 2015

Fred:

How the heck did you do all that work in only four months? Please tell me you had a professional crew of ten to help. 

I must be the slowest worker ever.

Graham 

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Alex

I will weigh in with the old Rhodes 22 thoughts. I am a recent Rhodes owner. I bought a 1974 out of a barn last year. I spent 4 months taking every fitting, nut and bolt off and repairing or replacing it as well as completly restoring all the wood and interior to the bare hull so I have a pretty good idea how it was built.This boat had been mostly in fresh water, but did quite a bit of Southern California  near shore to Catalina and Sea of Cortez extended cruising. Mine does not have all the bells and whistles but I can trailer it anywhere with a Nissan Frontier pickup, rig it, launch it and sail it single handed. I am 6'4" which helps standing up and laying down the mast. The cockpit is big, dry and comfortable. Nothing is in the way so you can get from bow to stern easily in big chop and bad weather. Mine has a conventional main and jib but again I have no issues single handling. I have not been in a big blow or huge waves yet but the lakes in Arizona have very unpredictable strong gusts of wind and get big confused chop quickly. I have never felt uncomfortable or unsafe.There is a ton of storage and the swing keel is a breeze to use. I have sailed over 50 years in various oceans and boats around the world.
I think the comparison to a big old Mercedes may be true. Mine sails well in very light air, handles big gusts safely. It responds and acclerates well. Not a race car but a good all around dry and responsive sailboat. I like mine!

Fred Haag

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Date:03/25/2015  9:39 PM  (GMT-07:00)
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wanna Be with questions 

Hello Rhodies.   I’ve
been lurking on this list for a couple weeks and cyber shopping for months.  I get to meet Stan in June and
finally see the Rhodes 22   I hope to
fall in love despite her aged looks.   I
also wanted to query the fleet   I’ve  been sailing on a Buccaneer 18 for over 30
years.  I started crewing on the same
boat as a kid.     The Bucc is a described
in Sailor Anarchy as “a fast boat.  
Initially very tender, but firms up just before she capsizes”   She lacks a self bailing cockpit.   Mine is not set up for racing, I just play
around. 

I’m looking for a couples cruiser I can dock at the local
reservoir (southern Ohio) and sail more frequently than my dingy.    I also hope to take her to Lake KY or the
Great Lakes for a long weekend once or twice a year.   I tend to keep equipment forever, and am looking
for a quality boat that will still be serviceable in 20 plus years when I
retire.    Therefore I’m avoiding plywood decks and iron
centerboards.    I’d like a stable boat I can take my dad out
on.   He taught me to sail the Bucc when
I was a kid, but is no longer agile.   

I wanted to give the group a chance to sell me on this boat    My experience is almost entirely one design
on inland waters where few other sailboats play.     My Great Lakes experience is mostly paddling a canoe down the shore (bits of 4 lakes).    I’m
looking at a few other trailer sailors.  

Catalina 250 is reportedly very difficult to launch without
a full team and plenty of time.    It is
more boat then I want.

Hunter 23.5   Day
sailor with accommodations suitable for a quickie after sunset, but not necessarily designed for a full weekend.  
The lack of a real head is a negative.  
I did like the 23.5 when I saw it in a boatyard.   I haven’t seen a 240 yet.  The 250 reportedly makes a lot of leeway.   Not many of these heavy boats were made..  The 260 is too wide to legally trailer. 

Macgregor 26 S (not the motor cruiser) is analogous
to a Chevy Impala.   Fast but poor
handling, they are inexpensive and plentiful.   
To misquote Dr. Who: ”It’s smaller on the inside”.    Predictable necessary upgrades include a
roller furler jib, new sails,  an ida
sailor rudder,  reseal the fittings and upgrade
the head door.    I’d likely also end up
rewiring it.     I’ve
rafted up with one.    She kept up with
my Buccaneer fairly well, being light and long.   The styling is a product of the 80’s but so
am I!   

Percision 23:  I
haven’t seen one.   The reputation is
unpredictable quality in a family cruiser.  
Not many built.     Good performance, but no head.   

Rhodes 22.   Appears
to be an older Mercedes.    I haven’t seen
one yet.     The reputation is well engineered
but expensive.      Refined
handling, but a slow boat.     Relatively good access to the foredeck may be vital in Lake Erie chop.   Many parts custom to
‘Mercedes’ (GB) which is not a problem as long as Mercedes remains
healthy.     I will look at a recycled or
recently recycled boat out of the corral.   I doubt I will commission a new
sloop. 

I’m not expecting an Ultimate 20, but hate to entirely sacrifice performance.  The IMF seems very cool, at the cost of roach and battens. 
  Does anybody know how it affects Portsmouth
numbers, etc.?.    Perhaps Stan can invent
‘in boom furling’.    Every boat is a compromise.   I
appreciate any insight or thoughts from the Rhodes fleet.    

Alex Cole

Urbana Ohio

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