[Rhodes22-list] Wanna Be with questions
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Thu Mar 26 11:31:10 EDT 2015
Wow. I am impressed. Congratulations!
Graham Stewart
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I live outside of Phoenix and we have good weather everyday so that helps. I had the framework of some interior parts and just made the rest based on pictures or ideas. I had some help from my daughter to redo the bow windows and the screws and bolts I could not get to or hold. The topdeck to hull joint was in pretty good shape and the rubrail was there, so I just cleaned and recaulked the joint and re pop riveted the rubrail. The hull was in good shape but the thru hulls were heat or age damaged so I replaced them all. Feral cats had been living in it for 10 years so the smell was unbelievable. Multiple pressure washes and gallons of Pinesol finally killed that smell. I used what interior wood that was left for templates and winged the rest through trial and error. Lots and lots of trials and errors. It had sat on a trailer for 14 years and some of the stringers were rotted or missing so I had to lift the hull off the trailer and let it relax back into shape where the bunks had deformed the hull. After I fixed the stringers and replaced the flooring I rebuilt the bunks and lengthened them to better conform to the hull shape. Some cabin and cockpit cushions were there so I just used them for templates.The worst part was the genoa track and transom stanchions had been installed stainless screws and steel nuts with no washers. That was a challenge to get to when I replaced the screws. I put refiberglassed doublers inside along with fender washers so everything is very solid now. I am a semi retired workaholic that was bored with time on my hands. I still need to finish some deck gelcoat repairs and have to find something to replace the interior window trim plastic rings but that does not keep me from sailing. I keep tweaking the rigging and hardware on the lakes here. Then I am heading down to the Sea of Cortez, before taking it to Mobile Bay in the fall to sail with my kids.
Fred Haag
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Fred:
How the heck did you do all that work in only four months? Please tell me you had a professional crew of ten to help.
I must be the
slowest worker ever.
Graham
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Alex
I will weigh in with the old
Rhodes 22 thoughts. I am a recent Rhodes owner. I bought a
1974 out of a barn last year. I spent 4 months taking every fitting, nut and bolt off and repairing or replacing it as well as completly restoring all the wood and interior to the bare hull so I have a pretty good idea how it was built.This boat had been mostly in fresh water, but did quite a bit of Southern California near shore to Catalina and Sea of Cortez extended cruising. Mine does not have all the bells and whistles but I can trailer it anywhere with a Nissan Frontier pickup, rig it, launch it and sail it single handed. I am 6'4" which helps standing up and laying down the mast. The cockpit is big, dry and comfortable. Nothing is in the way so you can get from bow to stern easily in big chop and bad weather. Mine has a conventional main and jib but again I have no issues single handling. I have not been in a big blow or huge waves yet but the lakes in Arizona have very unpredictable strong gusts of wind and get big confused chop quickly. I have never felt uncomfortable or unsafe.There is a ton of storage and the swing keel is a breeze to use. I have sailed over 50 years in various oceans and boats around the world.
I think the comparison to a big old Mercedes may be true. Mine sails well in very light air, handles big gusts safely. It responds and acclerates well. Not a race car but a good all around dry and responsive sailboat. I like mine!
Fred Haag
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Date:03/25/2015 9:39 PM (GMT-07:00)
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Hello
Rhodies. I’ve
been lurking on
this list for a couple weeks and cyber shopping for months. I get to meet Stan in June and finally see the Rhodes 22 I hope to fall in love despite her aged looks. I also wanted to query the fleet I’ve been sailing on a Buccaneer
18 for over 30
years. I started crewing on
the same
boat as a kid. The
Bucc is a described
in Sailor Anarchy as
“a fast boat.
Initially very tender,
but firms up just before she capsizes” She lacks a self bailing cockpit. Mine is not set up for racing, I just play around.
I’m looking for a couples
cruiser I can dock at the local
reservoir
(southern Ohio) and sail more frequently than my dingy. I also hope to take her to Lake KY or the Great Lakes for a long weekend once or twice a year. I tend to keep equipment forever, and am looking for a quality boat that will still be serviceable in 20 plus years when I retire. Therefore I’m avoiding plywood decks and iron centerboards. I’d like a stable boat I can take my dad out on. He taught me to sail the Bucc when I was a kid, but is no longer agile.
I
wanted to give the group a chance to sell me on this boat
My experience is almost entirely one design
on inland waters where few other sailboats
play. My Great Lakes experience is mostly
paddling a canoe down the shore (bits of 4 lakes).
I’m
looking at a few other trailer
sailors.
Catalina 250 is
reportedly very difficult to launch without
a full team and plenty of time. It is
more boat then I want.
Hunter 23.5 Day
sailor with accommodations suitable for a
quickie after sunset, but not necessarily designed for a
full weekend.
The lack of a real head is
a negative.
I did like the 23.5 when I
saw it in a boatyard. I haven’t seen a 240
yet. The 250 reportedly makes a lot of
leeway. Not many of these heavy boats were
made.. The 260 is too wide to legally trailer.
Macgregor 26 S (not the motor
cruiser) is analogous
to a Chevy
Impala. Fast but poor
handling,
they are inexpensive and plentiful.
To misquote Dr. Who: ”It’s smaller on the
inside”. Predictable necessary upgrades include a
roller furler jib, new sails, an ida
sailor rudder, reseal the fittings and
upgrade
the head door. I’d likely
also end up
rewiring it.
I’ve
rafted up with one.
She kept up with
my Buccaneer fairly
well, being light and long. The styling is a
product of the 80’s but so
am
I!
Percision
23: I
haven’t seen one. The
reputation is
unpredictable quality in a
family cruiser.
Not many built.
Good performance, but no
head.
Rhodes
22. Appears
to be an older
Mercedes. I haven’t seen
one yet.
The reputation is well engineered
but expensive. Refined
handling, but a slow boat.
Relatively good access to the foredeck may be
vital in Lake Erie chop. Many parts custom
to
‘Mercedes’ (GB) which is not a
problem as long as Mercedes remains
healthy. I will look at a
recycled or
recently recycled boat out of
the corral. I doubt I will commission a new
sloop.
I’m
not expecting an Ultimate 20, but hate to entirely sacrifice
performance. The IMF seems very cool, at the cost of roach
and battens.
Does anybody know how it
affects Portsmouth
numbers, etc.?.
Perhaps Stan can invent
‘in boom
furling’. Every boat is a
compromise. I
appreciate any
insight or thoughts from the Rhodes fleet.
Alex Cole
Urbana Ohio
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