[Rhodes22-list] Cabin Roof Plate

Thu May 7 15:24:48 EDT 2015

Christopher,
Boy, talk about waiting a long time to get baptized. What took you so  long?

Rummy

In a message dated 5/4/2015 10:59:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Thanks.  My blunder is limited to the Cabin Roof Plate, so  far, that the 
hoist crane attaches to  and your advice to drill out the  screw holes and 
fill with epoxy sound good.  

Details:

READ  THE INSTRUCTIONS!  Ok, I have had my boat for five years and had the 
mast  up and down a few times so I figured this would be a 20 minute 
exercise to  lower the mast for some mast top maintenance.  The mast crane that 
came  with my boat has a bale on it to connect the line with shackles to the 
bale on  the mast.  The crane currently on my boat was apparently replaced 
during  a visit to the plant with a different crane that does not have a bale 
rather  two connection points for the turnbuckles of the two aft lower 
shrouds.   I have never lowered the mast with the shroud method before so I simply 
 clipped one end of the line with shackles to the bow cleat and the other 
end  to the crane and then connected the crane line to the mast bale.  That 
is  backwards from the instructions I failed to read.  The mast came down but 
 pulled the crane base plate out of the cabin top and the mast decided to 
go 45  degrees to port.  I managed to pull the mast back to center and lower 
it  then realized two more blunders.  I remembered to disconnect the sliding 
 hatch but failed to close the hatch and failed to move the slider up the  
mast.  My sliding hatch now has some crunched fiberglass to remind me to  
close the hatch next time.  The final error was not having sufficient  length 
in the lower forward shrouds that get the chains.  Wrong chain  position and 
or not having the turnbuckle open enough.  The result was  some very tight 
shrouds that bent the top of the chain plates.  So after  five years of 
boating without any major screw ups I suppose this makes me an  official Rhodie!

Christopher P. Cowie    

4400  MacArthur Blvd, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20007
202.342.2711 ex.204  ● 202.342.2691 fax ● 202.270.1470  mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]

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-----Original  Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org  
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Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 10:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cabin Roof  Plate

Christopher,

I would drill out the holes you are going to  make for the screws twice as 
wide and the teeth of the screws, then back fill  the holes with Epoxy.  
Once that is dry, sand it flush with the deck and  drill pilot holes into the 
epoxy for the new screws.

This way there is  no direct path from the screw to the core material and 
you don't end up with a  soft deck like I have.  Lots of people try to depend 
on the surface  sealants between the plate and the deck, but the work that 
happens at the  screw/plate/deck area will create an opening to the core 
where water can  seep.  By drilling out a hole twice as wide as the screws 
teeth, you gain  a water proof buffer between the screws and the water absorbing 
core  material.

James Nichols

-----Original Message-----
From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 9:12  AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cabin Roof  Plate

I managed to rip the cabin roof plate, used to connect the mast  hoist 
crane, off my boat yesterday, don't ask how, and I need to  reinstall.  I 
understand that this plate can be screwed to the cabin top  or thru bolted.  I 
prefer to try and make the repair with the  screws.  I will use 3M 5200 
Polyurethane Adhesive/Sealant from the plate  to the cabin top.  My question is 
what I should fill the two screw holes  with to re insert the  screws?  I 
assume this should be the West  System #404 High Density Filler that can be 
injected into the striped screw  holes and then re drill two 3/16" pilot holes 
once it has dried.  Does  this seem like to correct repair?  

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Christopher  P. Cowie      

4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
Suite  300
Washington, DC 20007
202.342.2711 ex.204 ● 202.342.2691 fax ●  202.270.1470 mobile 
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]

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