[Rhodes22-list] Rudder Lift Line

Mon Nov 23 11:50:46 EST 2015

Since a replacement cam might be hard to locate, I would just add another cam cleat above it.  They are inexpensive and work easily and come in several configurations that work.  Get one with a captive cage to hold the line in place.
Bob (palatka)

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 9:25 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the education on lines, as up to now it’s pretty much all been rope to me.
> 
> I believe my rudder lift line (which is what got this thread – no pun intended -- started in the first place) must be a polyester yacht braid.  But the old one is “softer” than the new one I got at West Marine which is too hard and/or slick to hold in the cam.
> 
> Are there different grades or types of polyester yacht braid, or is my old one just weathered, in which case I’ll need to figure out where to go from here.  I looked at changing the cam, but replacing that looks like a way more expensive solution.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Bruce M
> s/v Tuxedo
> 
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> 
> Also i must confess i was embellishing the list as i do not have a picnic 17! 
> Ha!
> 
> Bob (palatka)
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:01 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Bob. That's a great list.
>> I confused braided nylon with braided polyester in my earlier post.
>> I should have known better. That's what I get for not sailing enough.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 11:32 PM 11/22/2015, you wrote:
>>> Twisted Nylon=anchor rode
>>> 
>>> Braided Nylon=dock lines
>>> 
>>> Polyester yacht braid=running rigging, halyards, reefing lines (no imf)
>>> 
>>> Polyester yacht braid=centerboard pennant, motor and rudder pennant.
>>> 
>>> Braided polypropylene=dinghy painter, trailing MOB line. (Floats)
>>> 
>>> Nylon 550 cord=quadbraid ships bell clapper pennant., skipper's 
>>> belt,  anchor tripline, sail bag ties, burgee halyard.
>>> 
>>> Bungee cord=line organizer,
>>> 
>>> Braided Manila=cabin rope art.
>>> 
>>> Vinyl coated stainless wire=lifelines (considering vectran dyneema 
>>> replacement)
>>> 
>>> Hollow braided polypropylene=ski rope for picnic 17! Ha!
>>> 
>>> Bob (palatka)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 3:47 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Though we have a mix of braided polyester and nylon docklines, I
>>>> prefer the nylon dock lines. Much easier to tie and untie and the
>>>> small amount of stretch/give is a good thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Recycled 1998
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 02:21 PM 11/22/2015, you wrote:
>>>>> Nothing beats nylon for anchor rode.  So I have more nylon than anything
>>>>> else.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> No self-respecting sailor will have Nylon and Poly on their
>>> boat ...except
>>>>>> for mooring lines and a floating man-overboard retrieval line.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:22 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The line that lifts my rudder has become frayed where the cam
>>> holds it in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> up position.   I thought it would be a good idea to replace it before it
>>>>>>> broke - BUT - I have tried both a nylon and a braided line from West
>>>>>>> Marine,
>>>>>>> and the cam will not hold either one -- they have a too-slippery surface
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the cam to bite in and hold.  I know they are the right size
>>> because they
>>>>>>> match the old one.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any suggestions for a specific type of line to use and where to get it?
>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>> do I need a new cam too?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bruce M
>>>>>>> s/v Tuxedo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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