[Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)

Mon Oct 5 10:33:35 EDT 2015

Graham,
Some of the earlier boats used a wire "traveler".  Here is a photo from my previous boat, a 76 model.  John Locke had the same setup until he added the traveler track, which has already been posted.   - Rob Lowe

http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/20/travelerlower.jpg

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Joe:
When I originally bought my boat there was no traveller at all and the main sheet block was simply attached to the pedestal stand bracket on the cockpit sole. Later I installed a proper traveller that ran across the cockpit seats immediately in front of the lazarette. That works fairly well but I like the idea of moving it up and out of the way. Buying the rig from Stan is pretty expensive from Canada and I would like to use the gear I have if possible. The problem I see with attaching my track to a bar is that this might create a twisting action that might play on the back stays. It looks to me like the traveller car in the photo runs directly on the tube and this would eliminate the twist.
If anyone has a close up picture of the traveller that would help or if anyone has rigged their own I would be interested to see what they did.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada

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Graham:
     Where (how) IS your traveler attached? The standard R-22 configuration has two ss cups attached to the back the back stays about 16 to 24 inches above the stern freeboard.  Traveler clips into these cups with snap fittings.  It's tough to see in the second pic, as my right hand had the bar securely in its grasp. (it's a Freudian thing, I suppose)  This is the old version.  Maybe some other Rhodies have pictures more definitive than this. I have pasted the pics right in here at the message.  Let me know if they don't make it to you. "Sail 'em if ya got 'em."
Joe 

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Joe:
Thanks for the response but my question wasn't clear. My traveller is not attached to the back stays at all. I was wondering what is needed to attach it there. I was wondering if I might take the track, attach it to a stainless steel tube and then work out some way to attach the traveller to the back stays. How are they attached now?

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada

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Graham:
    The changeover is best made while your boat is resting up from a long season of sailing.  I took the existing traveler off and sent it to Stanville. There the General Boats craftsmen transformed it into the new version and sent it home again, where I tucked it away till sailing season then reinstalled it exactly like the old one. Then, "plop, plop - fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is," (AlkaSeltzer). 

    Moving the main from side to side in order to sail closer to the wind is a breeze (pun always intended). The boom will stay right where you put it.  I like to experiment with it, play around.  Hey, you're sitting on your ass anyway. Why not use the time to become friendlier with your boat, the wind and wonderful combination these two things produce: you as a sailor.  Ready about!  Hard to lee!
Joe Camp
Looking for a Pulitzer Prize

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Joe: 
What is involved in retrofitting the mew traveller to a boat that had the old standard deck-mounted traveller? I have the split back stay.
Thanks,

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada

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To the traveller troubled:

    Stan's new traveller design makes this operation a breeze and gives this amazing boat another card up its sleeve. (That's a metaphorical sleeve; boats don't have jackets with sleeves)  I find myself using it all of the time, compared to the old traveller, which I avoided unwrapping at all. My best advice is to buy this item... Spend some money at GBI and get Stan out of the natural food store and back into the business of building superior sailboats. (By the way, Stan does have sleeves, and they're loaded with surprise cards.)

Joe Camp
s/v John Dawson
Bohemnia River, MD

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I don't understand your complaint. Mine and everyone I've seen sheet to windward.

Rick

Regards,

Rick

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> After many years of racing (and losing), hardware that I relied on and 
> would still enjoy using is a windward sheeting traveler. Perhaps in 
> the Rhodes 22 the stainless tube that connects the traveler and 
> backstay lines would need to be replaced with a custom bar that could 
> accommodate the ws traveler and backstays. I don't know.  In a 
> cruising boat it may be unnecessary fluff. Nonetheless, reaching to 
> adjust the traveler in both a breeze and a calm is a bit inefficient, I think. Any ideas?
>
> --
> Jay Marshall Weiss
> Hanali R22
> Poughkeepsie, NY
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