[Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
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Mon Oct 5 13:28:21 EDT 2015
Graham,
Yes that is the old style rudder head. It is a slab of wood or
composite material with metal plates. What is yours made of? It's
difficult to tell from your picture on my phone.
The newer rudders are of a sandwich design. Two outer panels with
sandwiched filler strips and no metal plates. I'm not on my computer
so I don't have a picture to post, but here is a link to a video of a
newer style gusset head. You can see a bit of the rudder in the video.
[1]https://youtu.be/mOcg2sM6hTk
Todd T
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Todd:
I am not sure what you mean by the "slab type rudder head" but I
have
attached a picture of mine - patiently waiting in my basement to be
reinstalled.
Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada
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Are you guys still using the old slab type rudderheads like the one
in
this picture?
Todd T.
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The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
Thanks Rob. Mine is a 76 as well and that was no doubt the
arrangement it
came with originally.
Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada
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Graham,
Some of the earlier boats used a wire "traveler". Here is a photo
from my
previous boat, a 76 model. John Locke had the same setup until he
added the
traveler track, which has already been posted. - Rob Lowe
[2][3]http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/
20/
travelerlowe
r.jpg
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Joe:
When I originally bought my boat there was no traveller at all and
the main
sheet block was simply attached to the pedestal stand bracket on
the cockpit
sole. Later I installed a proper traveller that ran across the
cockpit seats
immediately in front of the lazarette. That works fairly well but I
like the
idea of moving it up and out of the way. Buying the rig from Stan
is pretty
expensive from Canada and I would like to use the gear I have if
possible.
The problem I see with attaching my track to a bar is that this
might create
a twisting action that might play on the back stays. It looks to me
like the
traveller car in the photo runs directly on the tube and this would
eliminate the twist.
If anyone has a close up picture of the traveller that would help
or if
anyone has rigged their own I would be interested to see what they
did.
Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada
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Graham:
Where (how) IS your traveler attached? The standard R-22
configuration
has two ss cups attached to the back the back stays about 16 to 24
inches
above the stern freeboard. Traveler clips into these cups with snap
fittings. It`s tough to see in the second pic, as my right hand had
the bar
securely in its grasp. (it`s a Freudian thing, I suppose) This is
the old
version. Maybe some other Rhodies have pictures more definitive
than this.
I have pasted the pics right in here at the message. Let me know if
they
don`t make it to you. "Sail `em if ya got `em."
Joe
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Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 1:44 PM
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Joe:
Thanks for the response but my question wasn`t clear. My traveller
is not
attached to the back stays at all. I was wondering what is needed
to attach
it there. I was wondering if I might take the track, attach it to a
stainless steel tube and then work out some way to attach the
traveller to
the back stays. How are they attached now?
Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada
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Graham:
The changeover is best made while your boat is resting up from a
long
season of sailing. I took the existing traveler off and sent it to
Stanville. There the General Boats craftsmen transformed it into
the new
version and sent it home again, where I tucked it away till sailing
season
then reinstalled it exactly like the old one. Then, "plop, plop -
fizz,
fizz, oh what a relief it is," (AlkaSeltzer).
Moving the main from side to side in order to sail closer to the
wind is
a breeze (pun always intended). The boom will stay right where you
put it.
I like to experiment with it, play around. Hey, you`re sitting on
your ass
anyway. Why not use the time to become friendlier with your boat,
the wind
and wonderful combination these two things produce: you as a
sailor. Ready
about! Hard to lee!
Joe Camp
Looking for a Pulitzer Prize
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Joe:
What is involved in retrofitting the mew traveller to a boat that
had the
old standard deck-mounted traveller? I have the split back stay.
Thanks,
Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada
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To the traveller troubled:
Stan`s new traveller design makes this operation a breeze and gives
this
amazing boat another card up its sleeve. (That`s a metaphorical
sleeve;
boats don`t have jackets with sleeves) I find myself using it all
of the
time, compared to the old traveller, which I avoided unwrapping at
all. My
best advice is to buy this item... Spend some money at GBI and get
Stan out
of the natural food store and back into the business of building
superior
sailboats. (By the way, Stan does have sleeves, and they`re loaded
with
surprise cards.)
Joe Camp
s/v John Dawson
Bohemnia River, MD
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I don`t understand your complaint. Mine and everyone I`ve seen
sheet to
windward.
Rick
Regards,
Rick
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> After many years of racing (and losing), hardware that I relied
on and
> would still enjoy using is a windward sheeting traveler. Perhaps
in
> the Rhodes 22 the stainless tube that connects the traveler and
> backstay lines would need to be replaced with a custom bar that
could
> accommodate the ws traveler and backstays. I don`t know. In a
> cruising boat it may be unnecessary fluff. Nonetheless, reaching
to
> adjust the traveler in both a breeze and a calm is a bit
inefficient, I
think. Any ideas?
>
> --
> Jay Marshall Weiss
> Hanali R22
> Poughkeepsie, NY
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